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With Faith bows now. is the legendary Windforce still doing enuff damage for a bowazon to sweep thru baal runs and chaos?
sure, why not?
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4744535#post4744535
erm i read that. it requires a faith bow merc still. and i dont have a few. im saying a bowazon that uses WF w/o any faith, or RW external help from merc. still possibe to rain down arrows of pain on hell mobs?
Yeah, if you mainly strafe you can easily get by with a WF ama without a faith rogue.
ic. wat is the IAS i shld aim for? i intended gear would be.
wf 20
treachary 45
LoH 20
Guilam's face 15
A shael in the WF? Just so you know, the 2 frame strafe bp doesn't exist, so with strafe you're set with LoH. For multi, I'd aim for the 89% bp. I'd rather use Andy's over Guill, since cb is nerfed on ranged attack, ds isn't as effective when you have cs, and cause andy has ias and leech.
I'd not put an ias jewel in guill, and put an ed/ias jewel in the wf instead, if you can find one.
15% from wf
45% from treach
20% from LoH
20% from andy's
It's a shame that you have to have such margins, but what can you do about it?
MuffinMan
08-09-2008, 17:23
And a A2 merc with might aura helps a lot.. But they keep killing themselves in chaos runs :P
A shael in the WF? Just so you know, the 2 frame strafe bp doesn't exist, so with strafe you're set with LoH. For multi, I'd aim for the 89% bp. I'd rather use Andy's over Guill, since cb is nerfed on ranged attack, ds isn't as effective when you have cs, and cause andy has ias and leech.
I'd not put an ias jewel in guill, and put an ed/ias jewel in the wf instead, if you can find one.
15% from wf
45% from treach
20% from LoH
20% from andy's
It's a shame that you have to have such margins, but what can you do about it?
i tot wf comes with 20% ias? so
detfault wf's 20ias + LoH 20ias +andy's 20 ias +treach 45% ias = 105% ias. wat is the next break after 89IAS? i have a 38ED plain *** shl i socket it in WF for the extra dmg or go shael my wf so i get 40IAS from wf?
the next breakpoint is 150 - seems like over kill to me.
ON the other hand, with cat's eye, a shael and a ias jewel in your helm and you are set.
the next breakpoint is 150 - seems like over kill to me.
ON the other hand, with cat's eye, a shael and a ias jewel in your helm and you are set.
hmm but i wanna use atma's ammy
andy's 35 (15ias)
treach 45
WF 40 (shael)
LoH 20
only 140% =(
how do i hit 150?
TopHatCat64
08-09-2008, 18:42
Nosferatu's Coil or Goldwrap, both have 10 ias.
Nosferatu's Coil or Goldwrap, both have 10 ias.
i need 100% piercing intend to only put 1 put in pierce. wat other options any ias charms?
gold wrap or nosferatu.
Or change your help to a 3 sock helm with ias jewels or mavina's with ias jewel.
4 sock armour with ias jewels
Or combination of sigons gloves with boots.
Non of those option are that good. Why not use a merc with reapers toll for ctc decript? That can take away the need for atma's.
TopHatCat64
08-09-2008, 19:43
i need 100% piercing intend to only put 1 put in pierce. wat other options any ias charms?
Points are easy to come by on a bowazon and 100% pierce really isn't necessary - I would just drop a couple points into pierce. That way, you can wear an IAS belt and not have to compromise the rest of your gear.
Points are easy to come by on a bowazon and 100% pierce really isn't necessary - I would just drop a couple points into pierce. That way, you can wear an IAS belt and not have to compromise the rest of your gear.
hmm okay i will try
in my opinion 90 ias is enough. its easily achievable and you have many options for rest of the gear. also i second the pierce question. 100% pierce really isnt needed. for ammy i like atmas too. but i wouldnt expect big things without faith merc anyway.
89% bp is enough
Behling, you mean that the enemies will die before the merc gets to them? Mercs don't die that often later
i just tried the attack speed on my javazon, since i have 1 pt in strafe and mutli. the difference between 150 and 90 is imho, alot. and i love the 150 attack speed. is like a water canon. lol. i'm going for 150ias. tink my skill allocation shld be
1 to all passive
20 valk
20 penerate
20 strafe
20 GA
3 criital strike (bumped to 9 after +skills)
8 pierce (bumped to 14 after +skills)
completes level at 90
gear
andy 35ias
treach 45ias
nos belt 10ias
WF 40ias (shaeled)
LoH 20ias
ravenfrost/dual lech rings
gores (or would war trav be better?)
atma's scrab ammy
charms: anni, torch, res, gheeds, FRW
it's just one frame difference in multi. There is almost not difference in strafe speed - due to that /2 bug thing.
You are sure you did chose 150 ias because of the fast strafe right?
P.S. why max out guided arrow and only one point in multishot. Multishot deservers more and if you don't max out guided arrow, you can make critical and pierce more powerful - and those are much more important for me.
it's just one frame difference in multi. There is almost not difference in strafe speed - due to that /2 bug thing.
You are sure you did chose 150 ias because of the fast strafe right?
P.S. why max out guided arrow and only one point in multishot. Multishot deservers more and if you don't max out guided arrow, you can make critical and pierce more powerful - and those are much more important for me.
for strafe there is minimal difference but for multi 90 and 150 yes. there is a difference. its just one frame but there is. its just like Sorc 105FCR and 63FCR, Hdin 125FCR and the one before that.
cirirtal strike with 3 pts added and + skills i'll get level 9critial strike which gives 54% chance with gores i'm gussing around 60% which shld be sufficent in theory every 2nd arrow does double dmg. i wont want to waste another 10 pts just so i get a 10% increase in chance. As i cant use razortail :\ bumping pierce up to level 14 with 8 pts invested in it woudl give me 80% chance to pierce which is pretty gd i tink.
on guided arrow im not to sure. i only wanted to get max guided arrow so i can take down baal/diablo/merph really fast. shld i just go with 1 pt in it? and max out MS? or go 10MS 10GA?
sevencreature
09-09-2008, 09:49
NASE: 150% IAS is nice for Multi and Normal/Magic/Guided .-)
behling: If you really want to max something, max Magic Arrow then - it will really help with PIs :) But I would also rather recommend spending points in Multi and then boosting Pierce (optionally).
10 points in MS is perfectly fine IMO. GA is nice with 1 point spent I'd say. So far Magic Arrow is the best investment IMO. I guess if I opt to create pure non-WWS bowazon now, I'll definitelly max it :)
Act 2 merc can die in CS - random casting of IM is pain, but mine usually dies only once per 2 runs - the key is retreating to keep him in safety in the back as an aura bearer. Well, and then he sometimes dies 3 times in 2 minutes, yeah :)
Reaper's Toll is of course recommended.
Multishot is a one-point wonder. There are enough arrows at ~10 points, while both the mana and arrow costs go up
sevencreature
09-09-2008, 17:28
Well, not everybody has +10 to all skills. I have +4 for example.
Well, not everybody has +10 to all skills. I have +4 for example.
ditto. i have +3 and with my 20 hard points in multi im very happy :D
Omikron8
10-09-2008, 05:27
"blow through" 8 player chaos/baal runs with a regular might merc and 9/3 shot ? not really because you will likely be fighting monsters with over 80k hitpoints
"blow through" in lower player games or in higher player games with a faith merc ? certainly
do not put more than one point in GA, even at max level it will do less DPS than max strafe
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