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BunsenBurner
02-09-2008, 22:46
I've been thinking a lot lately about making a char that can run chaos in baal games, glitching diablo for the 33% better quest drops by not doing the quest itself, and I am wondering if the solution came to mind, or if I'm just crazy for thinking it:

Would a Fist of the Heavens pally work in chaos sanc.? Maxing holy bolt, fist, conviction, and holy shock, with most mobs there being undead and only the undead casters being lightning immune, and that breakable, would FoH work without too many + to skills necessary or is it just a joke skill for most all of pvm?

Omikron8
03-09-2008, 03:27
don't see how you could kill the infector venom lord pack in any reasonable amount of time, especially 8 player solo

Raistlin_Majere
05-09-2008, 09:45
is it just a joke skill for most all of pvm?

It is a joke for most of pvm. It's simply too slow - you will be waiting for the FoH timer most of the time.

Lots of other pally options though (check the stickies).

Alash
05-09-2008, 09:59
The Hammerdin is unprecedented the best solution for this concept. I'm sitting comfortably at 430% MF with mine, and clear Chaos Sanctuary in three and a half minute in 8-man games. This also makes Chaos runs an excellent source of experience.

Timmy
05-09-2008, 18:57
Hammers are great runners for sure. For cleaning Choas killing every monster, a javazon is very nice too.

guface
06-09-2008, 09:53
I would just go with a light sorc/infi in chaos. Much faster but probably more expensive (although PCs arent cheap either). U can probably fit ~400 mf with 3 part tal's set if you wanted.

MalVeauX
06-09-2008, 09:59
I've been thinking a lot lately about making a char that can run chaos in baal games, glitching diablo for the 33% better quest drops by not doing the quest itself, and I am wondering if the solution came to mind, or if I'm just crazy for thinking it:

Would a Fist of the Heavens pally work in chaos sanc.? Maxing holy bolt, fist, conviction, and holy shock, with most mobs there being undead and only the undead casters being lightning immune, and that breakable, would FoH work without too many + to skills necessary or is it just a joke skill for most all of pvm?

Your idea is sound, but your attack skill of choice here is not. Fist of the Heavens only attacks a single target (ignore that holy bolt side thing). This is the factor that makes it not work. To kill Chaos in a full game in any reasonable amount of time, you have to use skills that attack multiples of enemies at once. Mean while, you have to stay alive. You will be covered in curses and likely have iron maiden slapped on your act2 merc if using one. You will get swarmed and killed real fast if you're not already killing things as they come in. Fist of the Heavens just doesn't do it. FoH is more of a pvp skill in that it only needs to hit them once it locks on. For pvm, something else is needed for places like Chaos sanc.

The Hammerdin is the ultimate simply because he ignores everything, does retarded damage, does it to everything in a big area, and can cast as fast as he wants (unlike FoH, which is timered). And each little hammer does way more than FoH ever could hope to do. Sad really.

The only other option that isn't going to get completely stomped out by iron maiden ruining your day is probably a well kitted smiter using grief (it bugs with iron maiden and you live through it). But you'll take forever to kill everything in the Chaos sanc and it's still dangerous.

As others have mentioned, you could use other characters. The amazon with lighting fury and plague jav can take out most things with the help of a physical merc. A well kitted strafe zon can also clear the sanc (fast speed, high damage, pierce, deadly/critical). A windy druid can do it. Various sorcs can, though without infinity it will be tougher and slower (but don't let that stop you, infinity is not a requirement what so ever).

Cheers,