View Full Version : Any Zealot build like this around?
After having read the stuck runewords guide I got a rediculous idea. Rediculous because it's probably the most expensive character one could make, but also rediculous because his potential, if made properly, is unfathomable.
The concept is this:
Last Wish Phase Blade (Might Aura)
Fortitude Archon Plate (300% EDam)
Phoenix Shield (Redemption Aura, 300-400% EDam)
Merc Pride Eth CA (Concentration Aura)
Merc Bramble armor (up to 1340% Dam returned) or Dragon armor (if it adds to the Paladin's attacks, which I doubt)
Merc with Defiance aura
These items are the core ones, and would be used with a build somewhat close to this:
20 Sacrifice
20 Zeal
20 Holy Shield
20 Fanaticism
12 Defiance or 12 Resist Fire (if merc Dragon armor adds to your attacks)
Prerequisites...
The question is, have anyone made a guide about this?
Um, why not just get a might merc with the pride? Then you could have a grief or an eBotD weapon (zerker for choice, I'd guess), which would actually lead to better damage than a LW phase blade. A PB has such low damage that giving it high %ed just isn't worthwhile imo, and using any other weapon would make hitting the last zeal BP hard to impossible (too lazy to check with the calc, though).
Basically, you're looking at making a cookie-cutter fanazealot and giving him some really expensive gear to get great damage. Doesn't really need a guide, though.
A PB has such low damage that giving it high %ed just isn't worthwhile imo, and using any other weapon would make hitting the last zeal BP hard to impossible (too lazy to check with the calc, though).
I am using an eth death zerker and it's great. For grief I would consider to use a zerker, too. You need 86% ias with a lev 27 fana aura. The runeword gives up to 40%. The rest (50%) you need to get through your equipment. Nothing really impossible. And the zerker has a range of 3 instead of 2.
Um, why not just get a might merc with the pride? Then you could have a grief or an eBotD weapon (zerker for choice, I'd guess), which would actually lead to better damage than a LW phase blade. A PB has such low damage that giving it high %ed just isn't worthwhile imo, and using any other weapon would make hitting the last zeal BP hard to impossible (too lazy to check with the calc, though).
Basically, you're looking at making a cookie-cutter fanazealot and giving him some really expensive gear to get great damage. Doesn't really need a guide, though.
There is a point in the low base damage of a Last Wish PB, but I thought that since I'm so heavily boosted on the offensive, perhaps a Defiance aura is of more help than more damage. The setup is already bleeding edge, as it is.
I am using an eth death zerker and it's great. For grief I would consider to use a zerker, too. You need 86% ias with a lev 27 fana aura. The runeword gives up to 40%. The rest (50%) you need to get through your equipment. Nothing really impossible. And the zerker has a range of 3 instead of 2.
Good point with the increased range. As for eBotD vs. Grief, eBotD seems best for the pure Zealot, while Grief could be a solid candidate for a Zeal/Vengeance build to counter PI's.
On a sidenote, I still haven't figured out whether or not a Dragon armor's Holy Fire on a merc will add to your attacks. Does anyone know?
I am using an eth death zerker and it's great. For grief I would consider to use a zerker, too. You need 86% ias with a lev 27 fana aura. The runeword gives up to 40%. The rest (50%) you need to get through your equipment. Nothing really impossible. And the zerker has a range of 3 instead of 2.
Yeah, but that means that using a runeword without any ias means using ammy, gloves, and helm to reach that last bp, if you want to keep the fort armor. At least, I think so- 30% Highlords, 30% LoH, 20%+15% from Andy's socketed with an IAS jewel or 30% from 2 IAS jewels in a CoA. Are there any options I'm forgetting here? I guess that's not too bad, since those are all solid choices for PvM play.
Alash- True enough. I guess I was just thinking that, if you're going to go all out for damage, you might as well really go all out. Besides, this isn't going to be a PvP build, so mass defense isn't really going to make that much of a difference. Also, I'd personally hate to put all that wealth into getting massive %ed, and then not cut through monsters like butter. If you're getting great %ed, you want a good base for that percentage to work off of.
Maybe a LW Berzerker Axe would work? Also, what is the exact BP I'm aiming for to reach the 4fpa?
Maybe a LW Berzerker Axe would work? Also, what is the exact BP I'm aiming for to reach the 4fpa?
The BP depends on the weapon you're wearing and on the lvl of your fanaticism aura. I ever calculate with a level 27 aura.
With a pb you only need 9% ias to reach the 4fps. With an ba 56% (I don't know why I wrote 86% before) and with a legendary mallet (Schaefers for example) 113%.
A LW ba would definitively work.
BoneGalv
31-08-2008, 02:24
sounds like a nifty idea, id prob go with the grief PB over last wish though (i like the + damge of grief)
as far as the weapon choice goes, i have tried eBOTD and Grief, never last wish. i like grief, im not one of the super math based players, i just go with what seems to work best for me (zeal 1 point smite build) and thats grief, but the eBOTD is a nasty zealers weapon
with all the ED id imagine it would rip stuff up pretty good, let us know if you do it, id like to know how it works out
Ok I've done some research and thought about a build somewhat like this:
Last Wish BA
Fortitude AP
Phoenix ST
Andariel's Visage (15% IAS, 30% FR)
Highlord's Wrath
Ravenfrost
Dual Leech ring
Nosferatu's Coil
Dracul's Grasp
Gore Riders
Merc Pride Eth CA
Merc Fortitude Eth SA
Merc Andariel's Visage Eth (15% IAS, 30% FR)
At level 90, this would give me:
35% Open Wounds
75-85% Crushing Blow
48% Deadly Strike
2047-2202% Enhanced Damage
4 FPA (5,2 attacks per sec)
Guillaume's would breach the 100% CB, and boost DS to 63%, but would leave me having to find 20% more IAS to reach the breakpoint. Andariel's Visage and its +2 All Skills boosts both Might, Fanaticism and Zeal which means +66% EDam, and some more from ~30 Strength. What do you think? I've got the most important bits already, but I'd like your opinion...
Edit: I've done some calculations, and the way that the damage formulas are set up seems to make Grief absolutely superior to, well, EVERYTHING. With 2000% Enhanced Damage and 200 Strength Last Wish would leave me at 528-1526 damage, eBotD at 792-2343, and Grief 400 would leave me at 6784-7536.
BoneGalv
01-09-2008, 19:23
ya, grief is pretty tuff to beat
Thanks to krischan, I've finally got the calculations working properly. As you can see from this post (http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6762938&postcount=4), Grief is the one I'll need for this build. With that in mind - and a few other modifications - it's slowly boiling down to this:
Level 90 Paladin
Andariel's Visage (15% IAS, 30% FR)
"Fortitude" Archon Plate
"Phoenix" Sacred Targe
Nosferatu's Coil
Ravenfrost 20/230+
Dual Leech Ring w/ Str, @Res
Highlord's Wrath
"Grief" Berserker Axe
Dracul's Grasp
Gore Riders
"Call to Arms" Flail (Switch)
"Spirit" Paladin Shield (Switch)
Act 2 Defiance Mercenary
Ethereal Andariel's Visage (15% IAS, 30% FR)
Ethereal "Fortitude" Sacred Armor
Ethereal "Pride" Cryptic Axe
Primary skills
20 Sacrifice
20 Zeal
20 Holy Shield
20 Fanaticism
BoneGalv
02-09-2008, 03:28
let me know how phoenix does, ive always wanted to try the extra damage from that shield on my 1 point smiter
deadbeater
03-09-2008, 02:42
On a sidenote, I still haven't figured out whether or not a Dragon armor's Holy Fire on a merc will add to your attacks. Does anyone know?
The pulse, and the merc's attacks, are enhanced by Holy Fire. It does not enhance yours, sorry.
And it will also be super-weak unless you synergize it.
I would get a might merc. Just forget the defiance one.
And don't put a fire resist jewel/ral in the andy visage! It's not as if the fire res will create some big weak point. You can also get more than 30% fire res quite easily from charms.
Although a 30% fire res/15% ias jewel would be good
Also, "grants aura when equipped" isn't affected by +skills.
For a max damage set-up, I'd go with this:
Grief pb (when talking about grief, zerker axes deal much less damage. Range is mostly only important for charge or pvp. But since we accidentally get quite much ias anyway, you can use a cryptic sword or something)
Helm: Guillames
Armor: Fort
Shield: Phoenix
Amulet: High lords
Ring 1: Carrion wind
Ring 2: Ravenfrost
Boots: Gores
Belt: String of ears
Gloves: Draculs, or steelrend
Merc: Might merc with pride, fort and andy
Although pride mercs do low damage, since pride has no ed at all, resulting him in having loads of off-weapon ed, but low weapon damage
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