LLD CS Zon question

[chaosrulz]

Hi

I'm building an LLD CS Zon, and I have a question. Is it better to go for twitch (52 ias bp is hit) or Peace (2 zon skill) ?

Here is my current gear -

Peasant Crown
Telling of Beads
1zon/2jav/30ias Maiden Javelin
Peace MP or Twitchthroe
Rhyme Grim Shield
2x SoJs
String of Ears
Cow Kings Boots

Stats with Peace MP:
CS dmg: 1 - 1353, 7bolts
Life: 873
52fhr bp
30ias bp
Dodge/Evade: 44%

Stats with Twitchthroe:
CS dmg: 1 - 1194, 7bolts
Life: 918
52fhr bp
52ias bp
Dodge/Evade: 40%

To me it seems like twitch is the way to go. Suggestions?

[lumpor]

Amazon foryms perhaps?

Anyway I guess twitch is better

But use titans instead. Very easy to get. First I joined a trading game with my untwinked level 52 sorc. I had an io, shael, amn, thul, and alot of other low runes. A guy offered titans for trade, I showed all my runes and he accepted. Really cheap. They were a low roll, but the replenishing mod is the one that matters

Then I created my javazon, and in like the second game I created an assasin came and gave me free titans. So untwinked and my highest level character not even 55 I found myself with 2 titans. You shouldn't have such big problems I think

[chaosrulz]

Umm .. titans has an rlvl of 42 .. LLD caps at 30 afaik :)

[crawlingdeadman]

easy question to answer, which gives you more damage per second? go with that one. having higher damage at a slower speed or lower damage at a faster bp.

[LastZodiac]

You missed an important factor: Do you have max block with peace on?

[chaosrulz]

You missed an important factor: Do you have max block with peace on?

Yep. I added a little too many points into dex without finalizing gear. Will have to remake eventually ..

@cdm: Could you elaborate a bit?

[Dodgydave]

Well...

at 30% IAS you have 2.2 aps at 677 average damage per bolt = 1489 damage per bolt per second.

at 52% IAS you have 2.5 aps at 597.5 average damage per bolt = 1493 damage per bolt per second.

so they're both the same really damage wise. I'd say Twitch gives you a slightly more rounded character so would probably go that way...

[Blood_And_Iron]

Eh my limited understanding of LLD tells me there's no reason to go +skill over anything else? This is no exception.

[SmittySixTen]

Well, for characters that are highly elementally based, +skills will be what makes or breaks your build. The +AR from the zon skills would help as well. However, speed will almost always be what decides a duel. Twitch will more than likely play a roll hitting three major breakpoints for you.

Also, the CS doesn't really mean much when your main damage is elemental. It shouldn't really even be a question from the seems.

[Jerkazoid]

heres suggestions to consider

sheal sigons shield
deaths gloves + belt for the 30ias, cbf, and mad psn res
+2 peace

those are some decent javs btw, but please get a better ammy., please
be real carefull about dodge... lock sucks vs fast melee, id even recommend no d/a/e since its checked before block

also
"a switch wep for smiters, try a +3 skill 6 socket maiden spear with 6x shaels in it to make it super fast."


90ias, bp @89 variation
"30ias from javs
20ias from twitch
10ias from goldwrap
30ias from sigs gloves using a second piece" (possibly sheal'd sig shield, or helm)

[krischan]

easy question to answer, which gives you more damage per second? go with that one. having higher damage at a slower speed or lower damage at a faster bp.

That's generally right, but hit recovery and interruption of casters are to be considered as well. The high variation of lightning damage will make you miss a couple of chances to force your enemy into hit recovery and it's rather easy to get fhr gear (Twitch, Bloodfists, belts, charms etc.), so I would go for more speed, even if it means a bit less damage.

I'm no pvp pro, however, so correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jerkazoid]

I'm no pvp pro, however, so correct me if I'm wrong.
in my experience, speed matters. when confronted with marginal differences, pick speed.