View Full Version : Am I the only one who picks up chipped gems?
It seems like I'm the only not-low level player i battle net who picks up chipped gems. You cube 3, and you get a flawed gem. 3 flawed for a normal, 3 normal for a flawless and 3 flawless for a perfect.
I'm over lvl 50 and I pick up every gem or rune that I find
Basically, 81 chipped gems makes a pgem. It has happened to me many times that I had 2 flawless, 2 normal, 2 flawed and then I got my third chipped gem. In the long run you will have gained quite many pgems from it. If you have a gem mule it doesn't take too much space. If I hadn't picked up all chipped gems I find I would be a few pgems poorer now. I'm glad I picked them up
I mean, in the long run it's very fruitful. Does anyone agree with me?
um...not really....i do pic up every rune i get, and sometimes i pick up chipped to have some in stock for cubing runes.
Yeah, I know chippies are required for recipes sometimes. But I mean solely to get pgems from it
Cppo-The-Wild
22-08-2008, 15:40
takes waaay too much space in pvm characters stash in my opinion. when playing pvm i always find socketables etc which very quickly fills the slots. also the cubing and organizing those gems is probably less effective gem farming than just playing and picking up only the flawless ones :p
-Cppo
I mean, in the long run it's very fruitful. Does anyone agree with me?
The main question is, wouldn't you have found something worth more then a few pgms in the time you spend taken and cube your chipped gems?
Good hell andy runs can be done in 3 (?) minutes and you have a decent chance to find something useful.
^I do it in 40-60 seconds (90 sorc, basically untwinked), although keeping that up would be like suicide, realm down-wise. So I keep running andy+countess+meph to not pass the 20 games an hour limit.
The time spent cubing them low gems isn't worth it, use the time to get a few more levels so that you can run the bosses effectively. Or to run areas that drop the most flawless gems, if gems are important to you :).
Edit,
I just tried speedrunning Andy hell and she dropped dead after 36 seconds from entering the game :|. Drop was unique axe & sigon helm, I didn't bother switching to mf gear. And speaking of gems, 2 flawless ones dropped by the monsters around her.
AlexanderM
22-08-2008, 21:43
Ah, I play single player, and do keep all gems and runes that drop. However I have ATMA to mule them pretty much effortlessly, and cube them up without too much trouble. I have 5 characters that I've played decently far, only two of them have gotten to hell. Waiting for a really high ilvl grandcharm or other good base item to start rerolling, as I've built up a stock of several hundred pgems that should hopefully bring something nice.
I pick up the normal ones, too.
But think about it... 81 chips to a Perfect is kinda like picking up pennies in the street, except they're not even real pennies.
In other words, once I get rich enough to start a mule dedicated to gem/rune cubing I'll start picking up chipped and flawed because they take up that much space, and even then I'll only cube up to Lem.
I only farm normal and flawless, but in ironman competitions, I would pick up gems, esp skulls.
It doesn't take that long to cube gems compared to how repetitive it is to farm.
Also, it takes less than 36 seconds to cube chipped gems to 2 flawless if you only consider how long it takes to put them in the cube
And my MFer isn't ready to MF yet. It's my first time in nightmare, and I don't want to rush through it
Also, I pick up pennies in the street (or actually 50 öre coins, since I live in sweden). I'm not that poor, but small numbers add up
Garisdacar
24-08-2008, 05:54
i do this too, picking up all the gems and runes i find. i cube up to nefs for crafting, and up to perfect gems for rerolling grand charms. it doesn't take a whole lot of time, but i have been thinking about dropping the chipped/flawed and ith/eth.
MagpieLee
25-08-2008, 02:52
damn you double post
MagpieLee
25-08-2008, 02:53
I used to do this when I started ladder because I needed every scrap of "wealth" I could find. Same with runes. Eventually I've stopped picking up chipped and Els, and then flaweds with Elds. About a couple of months ago I've stoppoed Tirs and normal gems and now only grab Nefs+ and Flawless.
Its too bothersome having to mule them from char to char (not talking about Atma here).
I find that I have more time to concentrate saving time picking up crap stuff and muling them and using that same time to find higher quality stuff. The time trade off really does pay off.
This definately is a case of "Less is more".
I grab all gems/runes. I have a separate muling comp, so it's not much hassle for me to offload and cube up - I have mules set up as "refineries" for both. Every time I cube up a pgem or Ral they go into the bank.
It's a matter of logistics I guess - if you can do it without much fuss, then it may be worth your time. I keep doing it because pgems/crafting runes are so easy for me to turn over in bulk with the mule traders, and it seems like I always have some to cash in for a Pul or an Um. It's been a steady source of income for me.
Patriarch Syticus
25-08-2008, 08:25
I pick up every rune I find (never know when you'll need an eld for a runeword - ha!), and every normal and flawless gem. Chipped gems, though, I only try to keep 2 of each on my runemule for cubing runes.
Pitboss_2000
25-08-2008, 15:53
I don't pick up any runes below the ral-ort-tals (although i do make sure to have at least one of the lower ones on a mule somewhere), and I even stopped picking up 'regular' gems a while ago. o_O
SnickerSnack
26-08-2008, 04:33
It doesn't take that long to cube gems compared to how repetitive it is to farm.
Also, it takes less than 36 seconds to cube chipped gems to 2 flawless if you only consider how long it takes to put them in the cube
Comparing length to repetitiveness? Apple, meet Orange.
Take all the time involved in picking up each gem, muling it, and cubing, and see if that takes less than 36 seconds (or whatever unit you like). Also take into account the hassle of keeping all of those chippies and flawed. Muling on Bnet is a pain.
It's pretty hard to quantify all of that accurately, but if you feel like it's worth the time/effort, then good for you. Some people don't feel like it's worth it, and even if they tried doing it, they would probably hate every second of it. Since this is a game, isn't that the most important thing? A leisure activity shouldn't feel like a chore.
Once I have a character that can run through Hell WSK, I don't much bother with chipped or flawed gems (or the lowest few runes), but at a ladder reset, or if I'm playing untwinked just for fun, or if I've just started playing SP (I have), then I keep every gem. On SP, I have only a level 68 meteorb in NM act 5, but I have 48 perfect gems (plus one that got used to cube a 4os partizan). the only areas I have rerun are Level 5 of the Dark Tower and Level 3 of the Durance of Hate. I actually did pass by one chipped gem so far.
I used to pick up flawlesses, but I don't do that anymore...only if I need some gold...(which I never have... :P )
Comparing length to repetitiveness? Apple, meet Orange.
Take all the time involved in picking up each gem, muling it, and cubing, and see if that takes less than 36 seconds (or whatever unit you like). Also take into account the hassle of keeping all of those chippies and flawed. Muling on Bnet is a pain.
It's pretty hard to quantify all of that accurately, but if you feel like it's worth the time/effort, then good for you. Some people don't feel like it's worth it, and even if they tried doing it, they would probably hate every second of it. Since this is a game, isn't that the most important thing? A leisure activity shouldn't feel like a chore.
Once I have a character that can run through Hell WSK, I don't much bother with chipped or flawed gems (or the lowest few runes), but at a ladder reset, or if I'm playing untwinked just for fun, or if I've just started playing SP (I have), then I keep every gem. On SP, I have only a level 68 meteorb in NM act 5, but I have 48 perfect gems (plus one that got used to cube a 4os partizan). the only areas I have rerun are Level 5 of the Dark Tower and Level 3 of the Durance of Hate. I actually did pass by one chipped gem so far.
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Are you trying to say cubing gems is more repetitive than MFing?
MagpieLee
26-08-2008, 20:29
Comparing length to repetitiveness? Apple, meet Orange.
Take all the time involved in picking up each gem, muling it, and cubing, and see if that takes less than 36 seconds (or whatever unit you like). Also take into account the hassle of keeping all of those chippies and flawed. Muling on Bnet is a pain.
It's pretty hard to quantify all of that accurately, but if you feel like it's worth the time/effort, then good for you. Some people don't feel like it's worth it, and even if they tried doing it, they would probably hate every second of it. Since this is a game, isn't that the most important thing? A leisure activity shouldn't feel like a chore.
Once I have a character that can run through Hell WSK, I don't much bother with chipped or flawed gems (or the lowest few runes), but at a ladder reset, or if I'm playing untwinked just for fun, or if I've just started playing SP (I have), then I keep every gem. On SP, I have only a level 68 meteorb in NM act 5, but I have 48 perfect gems (plus one that got used to cube a 4os partizan). the only areas I have rerun are Level 5 of the Dark Tower and Level 3 of the Durance of Hate. I actually did pass by one chipped gem so far.
Yes this is somewhat my view too. I took it upon myself to trade my time. Rather then pickup, store, cube and mule those low runes/gems I've used that same time to find higher rewards and it pays off more then picking the stuff up. The adjustment can get hard but its well worth it imo. :thumbup:
SnickerSnack
26-08-2008, 23:51
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Are you trying to say cubing gems is more repetitive than MFing?
Not at all. What I'm saying is that if you assign each activity a value like time*boredom/results, then gem cubing and mfing will have similar values. So it really is a matter of preference.
I wasn't saying that cubing gems is more repetitive than MFing, but now that you mention it, I will. Put three items in, press button, take item out, repeat. It doesn't get much more repetitive than that. My NM Meph runs consist in far more than 3 steps, so they are less repetitive.
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