Experience

[HegemonKhan]

okay, i've been wanting to know/understand this for a long long long time!!!

how does experience work? anything and everything about it.

(and i want confirmation, accuracy, correctness, the truth on experience, once and for all!!)

3 main questions about/on experience:

1. experience when not partied
2. experience when partied
3. any weird things about exp like with hell diablo or whatever. is it true or no?

[Hawkreborn]

okay, i've been wanting to know/understand this for a long long long time!!!

how does experience work? anything and everything about it.

(and i want confirmation, accuracy, correctness, the truth on experience, once and for all!!)

3 main questions about/on experience:

1. experience when not partied
2. experience when partied
3. any weird things about exp like with hell diablo or whatever. is it true or no?

well i just checked arreat summit

2. experience when partied
Experience In a Party
The total experience earned for killing a monster is increased by 35% when a party member of the killer is in the same named area, defined as the "level" on the Automap. Then the pool is divided as explained below:

The total experience earned for killing a monster is divided evenly among all party members. Each member's share of the experience is equal to the member's level divided by the sum of all members' levels. This Experience Share is then multiplied by another percentage, calculated on a sliding scale that is based on the difference between your character's level and the monster's level, regardless of whether you are in a party or not. The sliding scale only applies if the difference is between 5 and 10 levels. With a small difference (5 levels or less), you receive 100% of your Experience Share. With a large difference (10 levels or more), you will receive 5% of your Experience Share. As a result, high-level characters receive only a small amount of experience for killing low-level monsters. Similarly, low-level characters only get a small amount of experience for killing high-level monsters. This is so that a low-level character running in a high-level party won't receive ridiculous amounts of experience fighting high-level monsters that only his party-mates can destroy.

Finally, only those party members within 2 screens of the monster death receive experience.

1. experience when not partied
What happens when two neutral players attack the same monster?
Whichever player makes the killing blow will get the experience.

there is alot more interesting things in that article i would advise checking it out :)

source: http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/experience.shtml

[HegemonKhan]

ughn, i knew i'd be sorry for asking about how expereience worked (espeically for in-party), lol.

though i think i kinda get it actually:

i'll summarize i hope what is right from the areat summit info u posted:

(complicated to say the least, but at least now i have a vague idea of party experience)

1. the monsters exp gets boasted by 35%

2. this is than divided (err, i should be saying multiplied for the actual equation) by your clvl over the sum of party's clvl

3. than to this new amount, finally u do the same calculation as when your not partied: your clvl to mlvl *IF* there's more than 5 lvls difference up or down u get penalized. more lvl difference more penalty.

* this summarization was more for myself in trying to make sense of it.

so based on this, than:

when partied, not only are u penalized if your clvl is more than 5 levels up or down from mlvl, but your also penalized for how high clvl your party members are.

so for best expereience IN a party: (to the extreme for it making the most sense) if u are clvl 99 and the 7 party members are clvl 1's and a monster gets killed that is mlvl 94-104 (i am aware that there is NO monster of mlvl 99 in classic, only in LOD, according to the atma program does it say that the uber diablo is mlvl 110) (in clasic hell diablo is the highest at mlvl 90. not sure about diablo clone though)
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also i knew (already read) about the penalty at various high levels. like from clvl 90+ u get like 1/6 exp etc... which is what really makes it ridiculous to try to level to lvl 99 in classic.
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ima try to put the party experience in formula...

1. u must be within 2 screens to get exp from a party member's kill.

2. have to be in the same lebeled area (like blood moor, or river of flame, etc) to get exp from another party member who killed a monster.

3. can NOT get exp in town or when dead (duh).

4. for diablo 1 it says that u have to be alive during and just after the monster dies to get the exp. u can NOT get exp if u die along with the monster. i'm gonna assume this is the same for diablo 2.

5. when another party member kills, u get...(now time for the formula)...

*this uses basic algebra concepts

* x means times/multiply. it is NOT a variable. A, B, C are variables. well, C is the final exp u get, so its not really a variable.

* / means divide

* ( ) means u do that first

(monster's exp amount) x .35 = A

A x (your clvl / sum of party members clvl) = B

B x (your clvl to mlvl formula. see areat summit link for this "sub" formula) = C

C = final exp you receive in a party when u did NOT make the kill.

[Akse]

Yeah and they also did something in 1.10 that cut down exp a lot 90+. This works ok now in LOD where u can't anymore get 99 in bloody or cows.. but in classic it really cut down the exp a lot and there isn't any place to get so huge exp so it's almost impossible to get 99 :) I think someone calculated how many diablo kills you need and it was a lot.

[fledgeling]

It is explained in the above link. There are certain caps and you get less experience after level 70.,

Does anyone have the number of runs in 7 player games needed for each level up from 80 to 99? I think it was something like 1600 for 92->93? Or was it 16 000?

[HegemonKhan]

i saw i post somewhere that told how many runs it would take. but can't remember where now... :(

[UnderAge]

I'm also curious to how the exp drops once in the 90's, as im almost 91 in west classic and my friend said that once you hit 91 it makes another significant drop in exp

[HegemonKhan]

it is explained in this link that was posted above, but i'll post it again for u

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/experience.shtml

(hopefully, this link is alright to post, since others have, i'm assuming/praying it is alright to post)

[UnderAge]

I have looked at the link but I was curious in more basic terms, like how much exp will I get a run at 91 vs 90. Thanks

[HegemonKhan]

i hardly am able to get all this calculation, formula, and math stuff myself (let alone understanding it, remembering it, and applying it actually within the game as i play)....some one else who understands all this can help u and me:D
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though i do think i get this:

from the link:

level 90, experience 5.96%

level 91, experience 4.49%
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heres how i think it works (IN PARTY and another party member makes the kill):

AFTER, AFTER, AFTER this:

(monster's exp amount) x 1.35 = A

A x (your clvl / sum of party members clvl) = B

B x (your clvl to mlvl formula. see areat summit link for this "sub" formula) = C

C = final exp you receive in a party when u did NOT make the kill.

U THAN, take C and apply the 5.96% at (when/if) your clvl 90.

this means that whatever C comes out to be, when u are at clvl 90 u get additionally penalized in that u only get 5.96% of whatever the amount of C is. u do NOT get 94.04% of the exp from C. *ouch*

same for any of clvl u are at. and as u see from the link the higher your clvl gets the less and less experience u get.
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made a huge mistake:

i had in previous post:

(monster's exp amount) x .35 = A

it should be:

(monster's exp amount) x 1.35 = A

or

(monster's exp amount) + ( (monster's exp amount) x .35) = A

[UnderAge]

I'm in the same hole lol I read the percentages and everything but I have no idea how too convert it into csing terms, so I guess the next time I'm on ill play a few hours and get 91 and find out =P

[HegemonKhan]

all u have to do is know how much hell diablo has for experience, mlvl of diablo (mlvl 90), your clvl and party members' clvls.

u than take that and put it into the calculations i posted in previous post. (but u have to look up the sub formula from linked site too. i was too lazy to include it. i just said to look it up and i am still doing now)