Akse
18-07-2008, 22:32
Hey everyone.
Introduction
As you might know soloing Chaos Sanctury with Whrilwind barb has been pain in the butt after 1.10. One morning I woke up and logged in bnet and was looking at my Hardcore barb hanging in the chat room with a Duke name there. As I had been whirling over and over again in City ofDamned and River of Flame, I tought: "I think it's time to make this one a King". With all my characters I have always waited long untill getting the last title. I wanted my characters being worth of the title. So at level 84 I cleared River, there wasn't many people online as usual in Classic HC. So there was one game up with 1 player in there, I went there and after River I gathered some courage to go to the Chaos Sanctuary.
Some acronyms
CS = Chaos Sanctuary
IM = Iron Maiden
WW = Whirlwind
HC = Hardcore
Basic tactics
I didn't yet know what my tactic would be, but it was clear after a few monsters. I had to pull the Doom Knights, Venom Lords and Storm Casters away from the Oblivion Knights. As many know Oblivion Knights tend to stay behind and cast curses/bolts/bonespirits.
Make sure you find some of those walls that CS has plenty also make sure the Oblivion Knights stay behind the corners when you pull the other monsters behind the wall. If you are HC make sure you have enough distance to the Oblivion's since sometimes they might cast over a wall or lava.
After a few pulls you get a hang on this. In HC you have to be very careful in every move you make. I made very short WW's so if somehow some Oblivion Knight casted IM my WW would probably be over when it lands. There was no one to mule with so I just went on with my Martel. So when the non caster monsters are dead you have 1 thing to do. To kill the IM casting Oblivion Knight. This is slightly tricky, but there is a nice trick. The Oblivion Knights have a habit to cast Decrepify when you go to their melee so thats where you want to be! Go next to them, wait for Decrepify and right after that do a couple of short whirlwinds. In 2 player game this was easy since they died quite fast, I don't know if I would dare to do CS in 8 player game since that would increase the risks because you would have to do a lot more whirlwinds. So the Oblivion Knight and his helpers are dead, the easy part is done.
The hard stuff
Whats the hard part? When you have 2 or more Oblivion Knights together, this is the part where making a whirlwind is really dangerous. Even if you get decrepify from 1 Oblivion Knight the others might cast IM on you. I actually had this happen 1 time and it was a near death. It was a short whirlwind that took about 2k hp of me(500 left). So the first of these double/triple packs I made with some risk, but I found out a new way. When you get deeper into CS there are a lot of these _|_ shaped corners. You can actually pull 1 of the Oblivion Knights closer to you and further from the other Oblivion Knightss when going behind those corners out of line of sight. Doing it like this was so much easier. One other trick is to use the good old Leap Attack, but since it doesn't count as ranged attack anymore, it might actually deal massive damage if you get IM(I died with one 29 barb like this when I had concentration from pala), I wanted to test how much damage I take when I hit with IM and I did 1 bash it returned about 1500 damage :( ouch. Also when you leap with all the other monsters around there it will get chaotic and the Leap doesn't always hit. So after you leap many times there and get hit by monsters and bolts and what not it might take even longer than with the pulling tactic.
Berserk is another option but I will talk about this later since I didn't have Berserk when I did this.
Another hard thing is the boss Oblivion Knights. When they have stone skin or extra fast they are quite hazard since you need more whirwinds to either kill them or hit them. Extra fast might be able to run away from you and apply IM.
Seal Bosses and Berserk
The seal bosses, only thing to worry about is to have the area cleared properly. But some of their abilities can be lethal even when you can Whirlwind without fear of IM. I had very easy ones this time. Something to fear of are of course curse, might combo on infector. If you see Lightning Enchanted, watch carefully if he has any other Enchanted. I've been very lucky to get 85 with my barb, I think there are more than dozen times that I've been below 300 hp because of these awful triple ench combos. So make sure you clear the minions out of there first then make a bit longer ww on the boss and drink potions after whirlwind.. you want to be full hp especially when it will die since the explosion will again increase the damage. You can also predict where the lightning bolts go. When you WW him at the first 2 times watch where the bolts go and if the monster like Vizier who likes to stay in 1 place is in the same place try to WW from a direction that the bolts didn't seem to go.
Berserk. When I got level up yesterday I took it immidiately. There have been so many bosses that I haven't been able to kill so I decided to finally take this skill. I generally skipped it in 1.09 since I think there wasn't as much immunes back then. Well I had this funny thing in the game I was in. I had spent about 20-30 minutes to get to Grand Vizier and I said to the Necro in the game. "Omg if some of the bosses are Physical Immune now and I've already spent so much time" aand guess what Infector was immune. So I tought this is it? I went to chat to ask if anyone was awake.. no everyone just idled there. I didn't know what to do but luckily I had friends account and there was a 72 level paladin so I was able to go and finish infector off. Next time I won't have problems.
Berserk is magic damage and it can also be nice against the Oblivion Knights. Thers only 1 but. They cast that decrepify that slows you down. They also like to run away from you after they have casted it. I havent tested it yet but I have a 30%ias BH that could be ok even if decrepified. BH+ resist shield sould be pretty nice combo in CS. You get resists, block and are immune to IM when you Berserk. Other test worthy skill would be Taunt. Arreat Summit didn't say anything about it not to work against Oblivion Knights, so with taunt you could pull 1 of them away from others.
Lord De Seis
This is generally easy, but the thing is that he is a boss and he has minions. Same thing is with the other Oblivion Knight bosses around in CS. When there is a boss Oblivion Knight the minions like to stay close to him. So I had some trouble pulling them but then I got a few of the minions down and decided to go on de seis with the same *wait for decrepify* tactic.. and I got him down. Finally.
Diablo
This is just too easy compared to the other things. Just ww untill he dies.. drink HP and mana potions sometimes to keep up mana and life since you can't leech him anymore.
In short
*As much resists as you can get - when you run around there luring monsters the Oblivion Knights can punch some great damage if you have low resists.
*1h + shield is safer than 2h but won't save you if you don't play wise
*Berserk Is nice to have. Immune to IM. Try to get fast weapon for this. It's also needed for Physical Immune seal bosses.
*Lure the non caster monsters away from the casters, kill them then go to melee range of the Oblivion Knights(casters) and kill them quickly.
*Be very careful when there are more than 1 Oblivion Knight. Other one might cast IM on you.
*Watch out the boss abilities. Triple Ench and such are dangerous.
*Kill seal bosses, kill diablo, gather loot. :)
I have to say that I had very easy CS. One of the most easiest I have seen, no hard bosses on the way or anything. So I was lucky.
And btw Diablo dropped me +2 ama amu.. and this leads to why I wrote this "guide"
I posted this to the TDR thread earlier and I was asked if I could make a thread about doing CS with barb.
Just soloed hell cs for the quest with my hc baba.. damn it was intense!
He dropped
+2 ama
11 str
34 light
20 fire res
xtra gold
13% mf
I guess it could be ok for javazons..
I'm quite sure in the next time with berserk and Bh+ Shield I can do this a lot faster. Altho I don't know yet if there will be a next time, since it still is very dangerous :)
If anyone have any more tips please share :)
I have a few softcore barbs that I could use to learn some tricks in there since I rather not train any special stunts in HC.
Anyways thanks to the X for kindly asking to write this. It was quite fun to share my adventure which was a damn exciting one.
I guess that was all I wanted to share thanks for reading.
Introduction
As you might know soloing Chaos Sanctury with Whrilwind barb has been pain in the butt after 1.10. One morning I woke up and logged in bnet and was looking at my Hardcore barb hanging in the chat room with a Duke name there. As I had been whirling over and over again in City ofDamned and River of Flame, I tought: "I think it's time to make this one a King". With all my characters I have always waited long untill getting the last title. I wanted my characters being worth of the title. So at level 84 I cleared River, there wasn't many people online as usual in Classic HC. So there was one game up with 1 player in there, I went there and after River I gathered some courage to go to the Chaos Sanctuary.
Some acronyms
CS = Chaos Sanctuary
IM = Iron Maiden
WW = Whirlwind
HC = Hardcore
Basic tactics
I didn't yet know what my tactic would be, but it was clear after a few monsters. I had to pull the Doom Knights, Venom Lords and Storm Casters away from the Oblivion Knights. As many know Oblivion Knights tend to stay behind and cast curses/bolts/bonespirits.
Make sure you find some of those walls that CS has plenty also make sure the Oblivion Knights stay behind the corners when you pull the other monsters behind the wall. If you are HC make sure you have enough distance to the Oblivion's since sometimes they might cast over a wall or lava.
After a few pulls you get a hang on this. In HC you have to be very careful in every move you make. I made very short WW's so if somehow some Oblivion Knight casted IM my WW would probably be over when it lands. There was no one to mule with so I just went on with my Martel. So when the non caster monsters are dead you have 1 thing to do. To kill the IM casting Oblivion Knight. This is slightly tricky, but there is a nice trick. The Oblivion Knights have a habit to cast Decrepify when you go to their melee so thats where you want to be! Go next to them, wait for Decrepify and right after that do a couple of short whirlwinds. In 2 player game this was easy since they died quite fast, I don't know if I would dare to do CS in 8 player game since that would increase the risks because you would have to do a lot more whirlwinds. So the Oblivion Knight and his helpers are dead, the easy part is done.
The hard stuff
Whats the hard part? When you have 2 or more Oblivion Knights together, this is the part where making a whirlwind is really dangerous. Even if you get decrepify from 1 Oblivion Knight the others might cast IM on you. I actually had this happen 1 time and it was a near death. It was a short whirlwind that took about 2k hp of me(500 left). So the first of these double/triple packs I made with some risk, but I found out a new way. When you get deeper into CS there are a lot of these _|_ shaped corners. You can actually pull 1 of the Oblivion Knights closer to you and further from the other Oblivion Knightss when going behind those corners out of line of sight. Doing it like this was so much easier. One other trick is to use the good old Leap Attack, but since it doesn't count as ranged attack anymore, it might actually deal massive damage if you get IM(I died with one 29 barb like this when I had concentration from pala), I wanted to test how much damage I take when I hit with IM and I did 1 bash it returned about 1500 damage :( ouch. Also when you leap with all the other monsters around there it will get chaotic and the Leap doesn't always hit. So after you leap many times there and get hit by monsters and bolts and what not it might take even longer than with the pulling tactic.
Berserk is another option but I will talk about this later since I didn't have Berserk when I did this.
Another hard thing is the boss Oblivion Knights. When they have stone skin or extra fast they are quite hazard since you need more whirwinds to either kill them or hit them. Extra fast might be able to run away from you and apply IM.
Seal Bosses and Berserk
The seal bosses, only thing to worry about is to have the area cleared properly. But some of their abilities can be lethal even when you can Whirlwind without fear of IM. I had very easy ones this time. Something to fear of are of course curse, might combo on infector. If you see Lightning Enchanted, watch carefully if he has any other Enchanted. I've been very lucky to get 85 with my barb, I think there are more than dozen times that I've been below 300 hp because of these awful triple ench combos. So make sure you clear the minions out of there first then make a bit longer ww on the boss and drink potions after whirlwind.. you want to be full hp especially when it will die since the explosion will again increase the damage. You can also predict where the lightning bolts go. When you WW him at the first 2 times watch where the bolts go and if the monster like Vizier who likes to stay in 1 place is in the same place try to WW from a direction that the bolts didn't seem to go.
Berserk. When I got level up yesterday I took it immidiately. There have been so many bosses that I haven't been able to kill so I decided to finally take this skill. I generally skipped it in 1.09 since I think there wasn't as much immunes back then. Well I had this funny thing in the game I was in. I had spent about 20-30 minutes to get to Grand Vizier and I said to the Necro in the game. "Omg if some of the bosses are Physical Immune now and I've already spent so much time" aand guess what Infector was immune. So I tought this is it? I went to chat to ask if anyone was awake.. no everyone just idled there. I didn't know what to do but luckily I had friends account and there was a 72 level paladin so I was able to go and finish infector off. Next time I won't have problems.
Berserk is magic damage and it can also be nice against the Oblivion Knights. Thers only 1 but. They cast that decrepify that slows you down. They also like to run away from you after they have casted it. I havent tested it yet but I have a 30%ias BH that could be ok even if decrepified. BH+ resist shield sould be pretty nice combo in CS. You get resists, block and are immune to IM when you Berserk. Other test worthy skill would be Taunt. Arreat Summit didn't say anything about it not to work against Oblivion Knights, so with taunt you could pull 1 of them away from others.
Lord De Seis
This is generally easy, but the thing is that he is a boss and he has minions. Same thing is with the other Oblivion Knight bosses around in CS. When there is a boss Oblivion Knight the minions like to stay close to him. So I had some trouble pulling them but then I got a few of the minions down and decided to go on de seis with the same *wait for decrepify* tactic.. and I got him down. Finally.
Diablo
This is just too easy compared to the other things. Just ww untill he dies.. drink HP and mana potions sometimes to keep up mana and life since you can't leech him anymore.
In short
*As much resists as you can get - when you run around there luring monsters the Oblivion Knights can punch some great damage if you have low resists.
*1h + shield is safer than 2h but won't save you if you don't play wise
*Berserk Is nice to have. Immune to IM. Try to get fast weapon for this. It's also needed for Physical Immune seal bosses.
*Lure the non caster monsters away from the casters, kill them then go to melee range of the Oblivion Knights(casters) and kill them quickly.
*Be very careful when there are more than 1 Oblivion Knight. Other one might cast IM on you.
*Watch out the boss abilities. Triple Ench and such are dangerous.
*Kill seal bosses, kill diablo, gather loot. :)
I have to say that I had very easy CS. One of the most easiest I have seen, no hard bosses on the way or anything. So I was lucky.
And btw Diablo dropped me +2 ama amu.. and this leads to why I wrote this "guide"
I posted this to the TDR thread earlier and I was asked if I could make a thread about doing CS with barb.
Just soloed hell cs for the quest with my hc baba.. damn it was intense!
He dropped
+2 ama
11 str
34 light
20 fire res
xtra gold
13% mf
I guess it could be ok for javazons..
I'm quite sure in the next time with berserk and Bh+ Shield I can do this a lot faster. Altho I don't know yet if there will be a next time, since it still is very dangerous :)
If anyone have any more tips please share :)
I have a few softcore barbs that I could use to learn some tricks in there since I rather not train any special stunts in HC.
Anyways thanks to the X for kindly asking to write this. It was quite fun to share my adventure which was a damn exciting one.
I guess that was all I wanted to share thanks for reading.