BO Barb

[crucialTK]

Hi,

Im making an "on-call" BO barb. Im 99% sure all I have to do is find as many +skill items and then simply max out shout, BO, and command... if I am wrong let me know... I tend to botch a lot of characters..

[nicro tower]

How will you level? Get other people to help you?

And ya max shout, max Bo, max Bc, maybe max howl as well, put some points into increased speed, etc.

Let's see: So you'll use tarnhelm, 2x+2barb weps, 2x soj, +2 barb ammy, silks for a total of +10 skills :D

[Chain]

You only need 1 point in battle command. More doesn't add levels and it already lasts long enough from the synergies with shout and battle orders.

Check out the leapopper guide in the stickies. You could also make this into a bvb since they also max these skills.

[HegemonKhan]

quick comments:

berserker armor takes 51 str: +1 barb sk, LESS def, able to put MORE pts into vit

silks armor takes 100 str: +1 skill, MORE def, 5% ML, able to put LESS pts into vit

*ML (mana leech)
*sk (skill)
*bo (directly means battle orders or in-game means battle command+battle orders+shout casting)

so its up to u which to go with.
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imo (in my opinion):

silks is better if u want your bo barb to also kill as the more def and 5% ML helps

for a pure support bo'er than berserker is probably better cuz it takes less str letting u put a few more pts into vit for near max life.
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for a bo pure support build, imo, u should have 51 str and rest into vit and max these skills:

* and whatever str/dex u need for "bo sticks" (bo sticks: +2 barb sk weapons)

bo, optional: shout/nat res/battle cry, leap or howl, rest into inc spd

*nat res (natural resist skill)
*inc spd (increase speed skill)
*spd (speed)
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*is sk shrine +2 or +3 sk's ??? can't remember..

max +skills for ALL (including bo) barb skills (except leap):

12=silks or berserker (1), tarn (1), bo stick (2), bo stick (2), soj (1), soj (1), rare amulet (2), sk shrine (2)

max +skills for leap:

14=silks or berserker (1), tarn (1), bo stick (2), bo stick (2), soj (1), soj (1), rare amulet (2), gorefoot (2), sk shrine (2)

[fledgeling]

20 str belt, the weapons can have strenght too

I think you could put 1 point into natural res and 1 point in hork..

Noone needs jumping barbs IMO, the cs team just needs a good hammerdin.
Also dont expect to wear full BO equipment during leveling - because you will die...

[Akse]

Whole bo barb thing is ridiculous. Like the level 20-25(depending of +skills) isn't helping too much already. I also hate the fact that in HC when ur soloing with barb many people start asking for bo.. have they made their characters in way that they only manage with bo? It wasn't like this before 1.10 tho.

[crucialTK]

im just making this guy to do BO... as for leveling him ive got access to lvl 25 chant and ravenclaw.. i was thinking maybe i can turn him into a singing barb? you dont see those guys anymore

[HegemonKhan]

Whole bo barb thing is ridiculous. Like the level 20-25(depending of +skills) isn't helping too much already. I also hate the fact that in HC when ur soloing with barb many people start asking for bo.. have they made their characters in way that they only manage with bo? It wasn't like this before 1.10 tho.

i agree. everyone expects bo from a barb character. unfortunately sk pts are limited and some builds need the sk pts else where instead of into bo, though of course, if every barb build could have 20 sk pts into bo it be great and lame.

its also the same with sorcs and enchant to a lesser degree. I myself am doing this same bad behavior when i'm playing my strafer i jsut started without a godly bow/xbow constantly asking every sorc i play with if they got enchant...can't help it...she needs enchant with her max bow speed build..until i can get a godly rare bow/xbow. right now she uses the max IAS speed for bows gear and the max speed bow (rogues). can't kill anythinig without enchant. but than i'm past normal and there's fire immunes or high fire resists...grr...well mp allows for exp leeching from party doing all the killing for u. :D

its funny though too. bo is nice but conviction is probably the nicest (most useful/powerful) of all abilities, yet no one is asking paladins for conviction!!! or any other skill etc...that boosts/enchances the party.
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crucialTK,

bo barbs and singer (warcry used as damage method) barbs are very different builds. u make one or the other. but u can have your bo barb put 20 pts into warcry for its stunning ability (u just can't make a pure singer and pure bo together as one build).

i made a singer guide thread (maybe) and info talk posts about it some where. they are old old threads/posts now probably back a good number of pages.

if u wanna make a singer, let me know, and i'll go find it for u and link it

[Akse]

Yeah I agree with the enchant. Doing river in 8ppl with barb is PAIN. So I was in this cs run game and they had no barb, well I tought they kinda accept me to be in the game (without going to private) if I give them the bo. So I gave them and hey some sorc was enchant there so I got enchant and the mobs died a lot faster.. was a good enough trade off.

But some level 60 people in hell a4 asking bo are annoying. "but we are too weak" well too bad, if you play wisely you won't die even without bo. I have been playing with risk since it's fun and I've been wwing 3-enchant bosses and BO won't save you from those if you are unlucky and resists sux.. they give really nice 2k damage sometimes, makes your heart beat .) If you play wise you skip those or deal from range.

Oh now I remember why BO wasn't so popular before 1.10.. its duration was a lot lower and many times people did longer cs runs since special bosses and their minions didn't gave such huge exp.

[Lorg]

Its still worthwhile to kill as many monsters in cs as possible until you hit 92 lv. I see a lot of runs, where only seal bosses are rushed. The thing is that champpions and other boss packs (which there are sometimes rather many) give quite nice exp before the said lv 92 or so. If the aim is to level as fast as possible, then imo the whole upper part of the cs should be cleared. Does not take much longer for a couple of paladins to annihilate mobs. Its also a lot less dangerous for lower lv chars hangging around + they level faster and further speed the clearing process up.

Bo barb... My bo slave is only 47 lv (stays that level). U can make one in a couple of hours. And he performs his duty very well -> pala (not full vita) has 35xx hp 4500 def and skill shout that last entire cs run. Don't really need more.

[HegemonKhan]

unfortunately, most don't know this about cs (or river champion urders) experience and avoid all the special monsters and just hit the seals for a quick diablo kill or there is a lvl 90+ hammerdin who needs diablo runs (for his exp) and doesn't care if no one else gets exp.

its as if this current community of d2 players are really clueless compared to all the old players who knew all this stuff and took it with them when they left d2 years ago.

i've seen so many low lvls and high lvls go right by special monsters......
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the problem with so many lower lvls doing hell cs games is because those are the ONLY games that are up on hell difficulty. never see a flayer run game or early act 1 run for huge experience for lvls 45+ (for early act 1) and lvls ~60+ for flayer runs

[crucialTK]

Its still worthwhile to kill as many monsters in cs as possible until you hit 92 lv. I see a lot of runs, where only seal bosses are rushed. The thing is that champpions and other boss packs (which there are sometimes rather many) give quite nice exp before the said lv 92 or so. If the aim is to level as fast as possible, then imo the whole upper part of the cs should be cleared. Does not take much longer for a couple of paladins to annihilate mobs. Its also a lot less dangerous for lower lv chars hangging around + they level faster and further speed the clearing process up.

Bo barb... My bo slave is only 47 lv (stays that level). U can make one in a couple of hours. And he performs his duty very well -> pala (not full vita) has 35xx hp 4500 def and skill shout that last entire cs run. Don't really need more.

see thats what i need to do! I already got some plus skill gear for my barb.... Im working on making a smiter based on Barty's guide... ive noticed everyone has an on call BO/chant.... esp PvP.. being a smiter with 4k life is sounding pretty good :D

[Akse]

Paladins used to have 1500 hp and they soloed cs.. now they have their own bo bot and get more hp than barbs because barbs need to put stats for weapons and damage.*sigh* Where is the skill nowadays? No one can die in normal circumstances with 3.5k hp it wasn't likely even with 1.5k. Sorcs doesn't invest to energy since "hey we get bo anyways so this 400 mana will be 800+" and also when u can buy manapots from vendor nowadays.

Yeah I've been in a few cs runs with my softcore lancer and I hate when people skip all the bosses so I just solo them when others rush forward. Many times the start of CS has like 3 bosses there. If the average level of the people in cs runs are sometimes like 85 it would be stupid to left those alive. Since at that level diablo exp doesn't matter that much as what you would get from all the bosses. When I solo cs I kill all the mobs.. its just fun to clear all. One time we didnt have sorc so I ran to cs and always made portal at the door :) people were pissed.. I tried to explain about the exp but for nothing.

Well I hope things are different in D3..