Uber cows?

[MacSpitz]

Is there any Cow level that is beyond hell, like Uber?, Or have i been tricked :scratchchin:

[AlexanderM]

Nope, hell cows are the last cows. In classic, they're probably the best xp-for-the-effort. Diablo and his minions might be better XP over all, but a lot higher risk (iron maiden, multishot lightning enchanted, etc.)

[HegemonKhan]

hell cows (in my opinion) are much harder than cs. usually this is because u have too many underpowered (underleveled) and "noob" players in the game who just got to hell difficulty and think they can do hell cows.

unfortunately, hell cows doesn't work that well. by the time u are a good enough char lvl to do them your already past the lvl that u no longer get exp from them and u can river/cs already.

if my memory serves, hell cows exp is good from ~lvl 60-70 ??

[Lorg]

Hell cows exp and drop rates have been nerfed so low that you dont really see cow runs anymore :coffee:

[Akse]

Nope, hell cows are the last cows. In classic, they're probably the best xp-for-the-effort. Diablo and his minions might be better XP over all, but a lot higher risk (iron maiden, multishot lightning enchanted, etc.)

if u didnt know multishot lightning enchanted has been nerfed long time ago. I think when lod came.

Most of the hell games I see are csruns actually. I think they nerfed the cow exp in 1.10.

Btw since they increased the numbers of special mobs and their minions in 1.10 by large amounths I've seen that when u enter hell at lvl 60 or something running trough the quest areas and acts is serious exp. Got 5 levels by running trough act1 and did radament in act2 and it was a 2-3 player game. Didnt even take long to run it thru. By doing this in every act you are most likely 70-75 in act4. I'll probably stay in flayer and exp to about 80 in there with barb since they aren't that good killing in act4 nowadays.

[fledgeling]

It comes from monster level. I think the mlevel at hell blood more is 51 (1+50). At stony field it is probably something like ~54 (50+4). Consequently, when you find an area where a level 1 gets nice exp, a level 50+1 character will get nice exp there in hell difficulty - as the monster level in hell is increased by 50.
Same applies to nightmare, where it's +25mlevel, as far as I remember.

Most people level in normal cows from 20-25, while I usually do nightmare blood more (and the den of evil quest). The monster level there is 25 or 26 I think, but you still get decent exp starting from level 21 (basically you get good exp when your char is 5 levels below or up the monster level I THINK).
That's why nightmare trist-runs arent that bad around level 25 for example.

As for higher levels (50+), I usually level in cs, because it's like 1-3 levels per cs.
Hell cows are hard to kill, even by 14k dmg hammerdins and most people are so stupid that they have to run around instead of standing behind the ones that can acutally kill - what leads to dragging so many cows that even the high level players have problems in killing them.

I have my own enchanter and I usually level up from 25-45 in nightmare cow level, thus I know how do ppl behave there - in like 25% of the games they drag so many cows that I have problems with killing them and my enchanted character dies...
I think most people would get really angry if that happened to their level 85+ hammerdins (you lose a lot of exp and cant retrieve the body, because the newbies drag 100 cows near the red portal).