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Therm
08-07-2008, 11:45
I would like to make myself an ama that can survive and kick some aases in these games like duelzz or whatever where everyones attacking everyone, heal themselves wit pots and spam all these things about each other moms etc so here is my idea:

stats:

STR: base20 + 15belt(nosferatus) + 10boots(wt) + 20stat anni&torch= 85 +48(added)= 133 (thats what i need for -15reqSS)

DEX: base25 + 25catseye + 20raven + 20statanni&torch = 110 + 42(added) = 152 (for faith gmb)

VIT: everything else

Equip as listed + crafted kb 20ias gloves (they lack +2 passive but this is what ive crafted for now) + mavinas helm wit 15 ias jewel (since i need 7fpa and got no 3 socket life ed/ias diadem yet..-lader) + titans + bulkathos ring for life and +1 +fort armor

Skill Allocation (copied from TienJes art and modified)

Guided Arrow- 20
Critical Strike- max
Penetrate- 1
Dodge- 12/+ *
Avoid- 7/+ *
Evade- 12/+ *
Jab- 1
Lightning Bolt- 1
Lightning Fury- 1
Decoy- 1
Valkyrie- 1
All other prereqs- 1
Multishot- 1/+ * (two options here either im gonna leave dodge avoid and evade at 12/7/12 and put the rest points here in MS or leave it like it is and max dodges)

And now the most important part the charms.. 20 stat anni + 20 stat torch and the rest filled with 175/100psn small charms with 3%FRW / 5%FHR in 50/50. It should give me like 6,5k poison dmg when fully loaded with 175s.

Whatcha guys think of this?

sweetalmonds
09-07-2008, 08:51
I think.. your zon will get nk'd a lot since most people consider more than a few poison charms bm on zons... . Also you roughly just copied the other guide when I see you max critical strike why? Low physical damage for this build and just about ~71% is good enough but you might as well leave it at one and put more in d/a/e. More on physical damage.. gmb faith is for high max damage with lots of dex and CS but since most damage from this is poison you only need a faith in faster bow for max fps so less overall IAS required and to take away last few hp after psn. Replace fort with bramble and gloves(if bow is fast enough) replace with trangs. I never made psn bow zon so all I said is based on speculations and general experience with D2.. If you like poison try poison javelin zon with bow cta now that is actually a very intresting build. :nod:

Dacar92
09-07-2008, 14:24
Why is more than a fw poison charms BM? How would they know how many you have unless they're hacking? I hate this BM thing entirely. Noting should be BM. If you can build it then the other guy should be able to build whatever he wants. Someone please explain this BM concept to me.

sweetalmonds
09-07-2008, 18:23
I dont want to get into pvp debate but here's a section I refer too for general rules when dueling good manner.



THE YES'S SECTION.

- Items that Grant Aura?s (Except Hf in duels vs ias/frw based builds)
- Only one item that grants an elemental absorb type is allowed.
- Only one item that Grants Max %+ Resistance or skill allowed.
- A maximum of 451 poison damage is allowed from charms for all melee characters, and none are allowed for Amazons.
- No Cap on R/w.
- No Cap on IAS.
-There is no restrictions on in-game techniques.


451 on melee, none on zon. Dueling zon is hard enough for hdins and most sorc builds if they have psn hdin/sorc has to be 100% offensive and can't run away to break off NL since they'll be at 1 health soon enough. If a certain zon would use mass psn then I would have no problem using another cheap tactic(revives, doom, 2 to 7vs1, nk like I mentioned and etc) since it's not gm dueling anymore.

I never mean for him not to make his build, I actually tried to help him make it more of a success. The first statement is simply a warning that this build will piss some people off and if they were gm before they will freely bm you back now which is a boring way to duel imo.

jakotaco
09-07-2008, 19:14
Never, ever seen anyone comlain about anyone using poison damage charms. But then I don't have any noticable amount of such charms on any of my chars. I think a bowazon has a hard enough time in high level duels against many of the top tier classes. I don't think a little poison damage would make them that overpowered.

And why choose 451 as a limit? one perfect sc? still not noticable against anyone with resists after pvp penalty.

Dacar92
09-07-2008, 20:20
Never, ever seen anyone comlain about anyone using poison damage charms. But then I don't have any noticable amount of such charms on any of my chars. I think a bowazon has a hard enough time in high level duels against many of the top tier classes. I don't think a little poison damage would make them that overpowered.

And why choose 451 as a limit? one perfect sc? still not noticable against anyone with resists after pvp penalty.

Agreed. And none on an Amazon? Why not? The entire PvP thing puzzles me sometimes. Why not build whatever you want to PvP with and just do it? Each build has it's own advantages and it's own disadvantages. That is not opinion, it is fact. Those so called "rules" make me think someone was beat by a poison zon one day and got mad then wrote those rules, which somehow became the norm.