Hell Countess Runs Myths???

[PRunKK]

I've been reading over guide after guide and have learned TONS about Hell Countess and just wanted to reiterate and verify the validity of what I "THINK" I've learned. LOL.

Number 1
MF should be LOW for Hell Countess to have an increased chance of her Rune table. REALLY want to know about this one.....

Number 2
Number of players in the game does NOT effect her rune drop table. This is from personal experience but would still like some sort of back up on this one.

If anyone has answers or more questions they would like to add to this please feel free!

Thanks all!
PRunKK

[Hrus]

1) wrong. MF doesn't affect base item type drops. Countess will drop a rune or a key or an (equippable) item. Rune and key don't have higher quality, so MF is irrelevant. If an (equip) item, which can have higher magic quality, drops, MF comes in action and there will be better chance for that item to be unique/set/rare. Only time, when low MF is good, is when you need whit socketed items.

2) wrong again. Due to her special drop order, it's actually the best to kill her at lowest player number possible. It's because she has 5 picks from her normal drop and after that 3 picks from her special rune drop. But she can only drop 6 items at maximum, so if she drops 5 item from her normal drop, then she can drop only 1 rune from her special rune drop.


MYTH NR. 3 - Running Countess is good way to get high runes.
NO, It's not. She is the best source for mid-runes up to IST (I would specualte about IST though). But that's all. You can't really expect hihger runes or cubing Ber from her drops. No. Not in a life span.

[PRunKK]

So in response to number 1, MF is not a waste or a must as it does not affect rune drops at all. It DOES however affect her equippable drops which it's always good to have MF if you want some Uniques or Rares. I still have a question on this though, what are her normal drops? I understand she CAN drop up to 6 items and she will always drop at least 1 rune, but how does the game judge between 3 runes or just 1 and how do I get items or gold stacks sometimes, but others I don't?

In response to number 2 you are saying that it is best to run by yourself?? I'm playing on ladder and most of my runs have been just me in a password protected game, but I'm wondering if I should have my friend join or join a public game and do Countess myself.


Number 3, I do understand that it's not a reliable way to get HIGH runes, but those mid range runes (got a Mal and Pul yesterday in 20 runs) sure are nice :)

Thanks for your reply and I look forward to hearing more!
PRunKK

[lionheartthebrave]

1. MF doesn't affect the number of drops, it affects their chances to be rare/set/uniques. However wearing MF gear can slow down killing speed

2. Higher player settings reduce the "no drop chance" This means that, at higher player settings, she has a greater probability of dropping normally (like any other boss/superunique) instead of activating her special rune drop

Running by yourself is the way to go

Check out the item generation tutorial if you really wanna know how her drops are decided

[Victus]

I understand she CAN drop up to 6 items and she will always drop at least 1 rune, but how does the game judge between 3 runes or just 1 and how do I get items or gold stacks sometimes, but others I don't?


Not always. Yesterday I dont get rune from her in 1-player game in one of my runs.

I guess I am really "lucky".:thumbup:

[Hrus]

Not always. Yesterday I dont get rune from her in 1-player game in one of my runs.

I guess I am really "lucky".:thumbup:
Yes, that can happen, but overall you will get more runes if you run her at p1.
Check Atma drop calculator.