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Maedhros
04-07-2008, 19:46
It seems odd that Blizzard would make the Barb look so old. Im not complaining, im just saying its weird, since a more younger looking character would have a bigger appeal to most gamers. Is it possible that the barb they showed us is not actualy the playable model we use, but simply something like a merc, or a guide, similar to what cain was? If thats true, could Cain die, and the new Barb be the New Cain?

5zigen
04-07-2008, 20:16
It seems odd that Blizzard would make the Barb look so old. Im not complaining, im just saying its weird, since a more younger looking character would have a bigger appeal to most gamers. Is it possible that the barb they showed us is not actualy the playable model we use, but simply something like a merc, or a guide, similar to what cain was? If thats true, could Cain die, and the new Barb be the New Cain?

That's the playable barbarian. They said they wanted it to feel like it was the 'same' barbarian from D2 in D3, thus, the aging.

lionheart
04-07-2008, 20:34
Whats the problem with the barbarian man? His age is not gonna make you play slower or worst then if he was young anyway. Plus most of the time you will have a helm on so you will not even see his face. And the most important fact is that its great to have the feeling that its the same guy that I had in the previous game, i feel more attached to him. A young guy would be appealing more for people that havent played much the previous game

celbii
04-07-2008, 21:42
Im the opposite, I love playing "old" chars that can destroy stuff.

JohnnyDeath
04-07-2008, 22:48
I love the new look of the barb. He looks a lot more powerful, but at the same time, wiser. I really dig it.

Saint Anger
04-07-2008, 23:00
I quite like the current appearance of the Barbarian as well, it indeed makes him seem wiser and more experienced. It is also a nice break from the generic fantasy cliché, where heroes inevitably appear as youthful, handsome, energetic and not in the least bit troubled by their burdensome responsibilities. It's quite refreshing to see how this (male) Barbarian has this "lived through" appearance.

Of course, the female barbarian on the other hand seems to be exactly the opposite of this, as she is basically the embodiment of the cliché: fair-haired (temper!), beautiful, youthful appearance, and with armour that's barely enough to cover her more intimate body parts (makes you wonder how she gets through fights unharmed). (disclaimer: both descriptions are based on how they appear on artwork - the actual in-game representation might be wildly varying)

As far as I'm concerned your point has merit, though I do wonder how much value most people actually attached to the age of the Barbarian in d2. I can only speak for myself, but it appeared to me that he had quite an ageless appearance in d2, meaning he could be any age ranging from his twenties to his fourties. In other words, his age didn't really matter to me.

Hector
05-07-2008, 00:35
I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I like the older looks to make it a bit more unique compared to D2, although it doesn't seem to make sense that he HAS to be older looking to represent that 20 years passed. Why not a younger Barbarian generation to represent the class in D3? They did not have any sons? lol, a young, fresh looking Barb (maybe with hair) would be neat, but like I said I don't mind the present one.

I think people won't bother about character age though. Look at Diablo II, the Sorceress looking (and sounding) very young, and the Necro being quite older. Both have a great fanbase and at some point (earlier days, pre-nerfs) the Necro was one of the most popular classes.

DylWeed
06-07-2008, 22:39
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.

But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)

Leugi
07-07-2008, 14:28
"New customization options will provide for an even greater level of character specialization than the previous Diablo games, allowing the player to create unique characters brimming with power." from the FAQ

I guess we could think that some things will be customizable on classes like hair or something...

Still, I do like the barbarian as it is.

Tsumaru
08-07-2008, 03:28
I'm not sure if they said it's meant to be the *same* barbarian player character as from D2, but I do recall seeing in some interview where they were discussing that they wanted the player character to actually *be* a character. So you get these interactions where you actually talk to Cain and other NPCs, and there is a personality and all that behind the model. Giving a more unique, aged look can add to this.

That having been said, one thing did stand out to me. It wasn't his age - but rather the huge bulk, and the way he breathed during that interaction with Cain. He seemed *very* similar to Thrall from Warcraft. o_O I can't help but see him more as an albino Orc than a human barbarian =P

KiLLJOi
08-07-2008, 06:17
I'm not sure if they said it's meant to be the *same* barbarian player character as from D2,


Yes, it actually is meant to be the same Barbarian from D2, 20 years later. You can find information about this on Blizzard's D3 site, and throughout this section of the forums

Tsumaru
08-07-2008, 06:41
Okay, sure. I'll go do some reading. Thanks for the confirmation. =)

ExtraStrongFireEnchanted
08-07-2008, 06:42
Barb is like Sean Connery - getting better with age. Always liked how an 'old man' kicks younglings asses.

Gauss
09-07-2008, 00:09
I like the idea. And I would like to see any other D2 classes with the same look as in D2 but with age. Though if you are able to customize your character, then it should be just the default look and you would be able to choose hair, color skin and body complexion at least.

Just imagine a Witch Doctor that you could customize to look as the former Necro but called "Witch Doctor" LOL.

AxlStrife
09-07-2008, 00:43
Yes, it actually is meant to be the same Barbarian from D2, 20 years later. You can find information about this on Blizzard's D3 site, and throughout this section of the forums

Another hint was when the Barb recognizes Cain and says something to the effect of "You're still alive?"

lionheart
09-07-2008, 06:14
Another hint was when the Barb recognizes Cain and says something to the effect of "You're still alive?"


So true, as soon as i heard that in the gameplay video, im like they have brought him back, its the same guy :grin:

Tsumaru
09-07-2008, 14:15
Well, realistically, that could just mean you'd met him earlier in the game. I noticed it at the time and wondered about it, but I don't think it necessarily means you're the same guy from D2. I mean how many other barbarians could Cain have met in 20 years? I'm betting a few.

But if they say it's the same one, then I guess it is.

DWS
09-07-2008, 14:42
Whats the problem with the barbarian man? His age is not gonna make you play slower or worst then if he was young anyway. Plus most of the time you will have a helm on so you will not even see his face. And the most important fact is that its great to have the feeling that its the same guy that I had in the previous game, i feel more attached to him. A young guy would be appealing more for people that havent played much the previous game

Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.

lionheart
09-07-2008, 19:34
Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.


Ohhhh so i guess you would have preferred to have a level 90+ guy with all the good stuff that just goes through the game as if he is having a walk in the park...

If you know how these games work then i think you can pretty much understand the explanation to what you said

AxlStrife
09-07-2008, 20:01
Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.

Two decades of hanging up the old axe might do that. We don't know if he stayed at Bastion's Keep and fought off whatever or if he plopped down on the couch, watched some tv and drank beer. Now THAT would be a funny cutscene/easter egg (what all the characters did on their 'downtime')

Geothermal
09-07-2008, 20:09
Always liked how an 'old man' kicks younglings asses.

Kinda like how Anakin Skywalker kills those younglings at the Jedi Temple in Revenge of the Sith? :D ^^ I mean he's not an old man... but he is older :p

On a more serious note, I love the way the barbarian looks, all aspects.
Drooling over the artwork a lot, I have been.

MooCQ
10-07-2008, 00:22
This barb has had a rough life.. he's aged.. though that doesnt make him an old man... he may be 40 yrs..

Swiffer
10-07-2008, 02:03
This barb has had a rough life.. he's aged.. though that doesnt make him an old man... he may be 40 yrs..

In Sanctuary, the average life span of most people is around 40 years. A 40 year old Barb would be an elder of his clan. Cain is positively ancient in age.

ThulRasha
10-07-2008, 12:09
He has had ~45 years of experience in not dying, living as dangerously as possible in between all those monsters.
This venerable dude is one tough bastard!

Lars
02-08-2008, 12:24
In my mind it's totally awesome that I can play the barbarian from D2 again in D3. He is old and experienced, besides if you fight your whole life you can be old and still strong.

This is the main character I'll play in D3, no doubt about it.

Sinistril
03-08-2008, 01:53
Why would younger gamers care about the barbarians age?

Anyways you got to admire the grit and heartyness of this barbarian,he hasn't been corrupted by the prime evils even after venturing deep into hell (deeper than the warrior ever did?) and meeting all 3 prime evils+lesser evils... I'll for sure make a barbarian character in D3 just for the RP aspect

Sinistril
03-08-2008, 01:56
In Sanctuary, the average life span of most people is around 40 years. A 40 year old Barb would be an elder of his clan. Cain is positively ancient in age.


Possibly and possibly not, Barbarians always lived a tough hard life giving them stronger bodies/resistances/etc, while other people's ie. a citizen from lower kurast might have shorter lives because of disease etc you'd have to think some of those barbarians resistances made them live a little longer than other races?... I wouldn't be suprised if they had an average longer life span atleast ;p

Lars
03-08-2008, 23:17
You also have to take into consideration that whenever theres statistics about life span, birth deaths and child deaths are counted. When deaths happen at ages between 0-5 or so they really bring down the average age. As it was in medieval times for example. So even if the average life span is 40 years, it wouldnt be unusual for people that grew up to become adults to live to become 50-70 years old, depending on their situation and their genes.

synx
07-08-2008, 04:50
They should have made the female model equally grizzled looking. It seems like they want DIII to have the WoW female night elf effect where 99% of the players are running around with female avatars.

NKlint
07-08-2008, 07:42
Heh, that makes me wonder if there will be /emotes in-game that are more than text boxes above their head.

F-Barb23:/Dance
F-Barb23:Tips
BarbManLoL:Show us your Boobs!

stillman
16-08-2008, 01:31
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.

But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)

Barbarians were not just a threat; they actually brought the Roman Empire to a brutal end. Rome had grown to such enormus size that it became impossible to defend its' borders. It got to a point where every male born in Rome was conscripted into the Roman army in a vain attempt to defend Rome from invaders. Barbarian tribes surrounding Rome kept breaking into Rome at various points along the border to pillage and loot Rome's treasures.

But Romans were piggish and they deserved this fate, imo. Half of the population of Rome was composed of slaves. Roman armies had to keep conquering new lands to find fresh slaves and treasure to maintain Rome's lavish lifestyle. It all built up to a huge land mass of lush palaces and loot ripe and ready for the barbarian invasions.

mince pies
17-08-2008, 02:10
No, Blizzard decided to show a completely different Barbarian in the gameplay demo than the one we're going to play as in the final release -.-

(sarcasm)

Damric
22-08-2008, 01:17
just imagine how saggy the amazon is going to look.

RagingBull
23-08-2008, 09:11
:scratchchin: no

Schwalker
23-08-2008, 14:16
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.

But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)


You are not far off...If you look at the Sanctuary map which basically is a distorted pre-medieval map of Europe and the mediterranean area you find that the barbarian lands corresponds to Scandinavia so there you got your vikings/goths.

viljarast
23-08-2008, 17:13
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.

But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)

And not even to the Roman Empire - Vikings and their successors, Normans, actually were a major player in medieval Europe. The last conquerors of England and the British Islands were the Normans. If I remember my facts correctly I think they ruled France around the same time too.

Before them the Vikings had most of northern Europe from Greenland to western Siberia under their power, focusing mainly to Norway and the Baltic Sea. They were kind of landlords and pirates, collecting taxes from many coastal areas rather than traditional conquerors or rulers.

So yeah, the real Barbarians of western history are a good place to start when modelling a worthy Barbarian for D3. :thumbup:

Schwalker
23-08-2008, 20:31
If I remember my facts correctly I think they ruled France around the same time too.




Erm, not really but the northern part of france was given to a Viking lord in exchange for protection from other vikings by the french king, that land was henceforth known as "Normandie".

The Normands (north men) sat there in Normandie a few generations and took a loooong look at Saxon england just across the channel before they simply launched an invasion and took over.

Valmy
31-01-2009, 15:31
And old topic, but I didn't resist the impulse to post, because I'm new in the forum and I just read it.


Well, I like this "old" barb by no doubt. Perhaps most of you prefer young heroes, but I like this oldman without a doubt. Young heroes looks kinda inexpert, and perhaps it's a good feeling for the start levels.

But once you play a character for so long and reach high levels, I fell an old-kind model is a better bet. It looks more experimented, more physical, more mature, and more powerfull this way.

I'm sure than, historically, if you mix a young 20ish and an experimented 40'sh warriors and let them fight against other, normally the old one (suppose good athelte and take care of himself practicing a lot) will ridiculize the young in many many ways, doesn´t matter the difference in age.

A 40-old warrior is more dangerous in combat like a sh!ty 18-20 one without any doubt. We are not talking about a 70 years old barb, lol. We are talking about perhaps a 40-45 years old one in excellent body shape, a wise man, experimented, tanned through a thousand battles. If he fights against a crappy 20-y old boy, he shall eat him alive in just a sec.

I will feel ways more comfortable playing with this one than the crappy young from D2, who looks like a fragile kid until he wears the IK set and you don't see him too much ^__^


Perhaps this is because I'm 31, I'm starting getting old and some grey hair and a bit clearing LOL. But I really enjoy this new appeal a lot.

Grug
31-01-2009, 22:46
Old barb is several magnitudes of bad-*** above the young barb. Old Barb is like Clint Eastwood.

Bladewind
01-02-2009, 07:54
I prefer the Old Barb. He is kinda like Old Snake.

Bad-***.

Of course he will be the only link to the old diablo lore aside from Deckard Cain, so I must play him. Remember, Diablo and Diablo 2 took place while terror walked the Sanctuary. Diablo 3 is 20 years laters, so nearly a generation was borned without fear of the demons.

Gleeland
03-02-2009, 08:46
I think the devs are doing a good job with the characters. They gave a back story on both the older male and the younger female variants of the barbarians. Remember, after the worldstone 'sploded their culture was devestated and essentially fell apart. Also, I like the idea of having the older barb along with the younger wizard. It gives the characters much more depth.

Zobimanguydo
07-02-2009, 20:11
What the hell are you talking about, the barbarian being the new cain?

Bladewind
08-02-2009, 02:58
What the hell are you talking about, the barbarian being the new cain?

A bigger, better Cain. The new generation (20 years later) never saw or even faced the threat of Prime Evils before. Only the original 7 (d2 classes) did and fought the Prime Evils head on, and whoever still alive from D2.

Echod16
08-02-2009, 07:06
Ya, the necromancer's in a retirement home now, casting Iron Maiden on the nurses

teh_Thrasher
08-02-2009, 17:16
actually i think the necro would be casting Attract on himself. haha giggity giggity.


but uh to respond to that 40year old warrior outdoing a 20 year old almost made me laugh.
maybe if the 20 year old is some huge noob that knows nothing. back in the days of swords and war 40 years old is OLD like old man... its strictly science the younger male has better musculature and is more vibrant and physical its called youth. and with the same training as the old man, the old man wouldnt stand a chance against the younger one with more endurance and physical prowess.



that aside, i actually like the older barbarian. he looks like a grizzled combat vet thats seen things no man should see. IMO he looks way cooler than the d2 barbarian with his *** ponytail and shaved head. i wouldnt mind some customization of the characters but i understand that it becomes moot when u get gear that covers up everything u just customized.

Bladewind
09-02-2009, 00:44
actually i think the necro would be casting Attract on himself. haha giggity giggity.


but uh to respond to that 40year old warrior outdoing a 20 year old almost made me laugh.
maybe if the 20 year old is some huge noob that knows nothing. back in the days of swords and war 40 years old is OLD like old man... its strictly science the younger male has better musculature and is more vibrant and physical its called youth. and with the same training as the old man, the old man wouldnt stand a chance against the younger one with more endurance and physical prowess.



that aside, i actually like the older barbarian. he looks like a grizzled combat vet thats seen things no man should see. IMO he looks way cooler than the d2 barbarian with his *** ponytail and shaved head. i wouldnt mind some customization of the characters but i understand that it becomes moot when u get gear that covers up everything u just customized.

That is why he needs to hit em more, to get the juicies (fury) going. :cloud9:

rikstaker
09-02-2009, 02:57
I prefer the Old Barb. He is kinda like Old Snake.

Bad-***.
.

what he said..

veteran player
10-02-2009, 02:49
the barb reminds me too much of a paladin with the paladin skills hes got now. like charge.there seems to be to many skills we already have in the new game sadly. maybe theyll fix it.

also his attack speed seems really slow. is he wearing base attack speed items in the video?. is theyre gonna be a way to increase ias?. i hope so if i buy it.

Valmy
11-02-2009, 22:22
also his attack speed seems really slow. is he wearing base attack speed items in the video?. is theyre gonna be a way to increase ias?. i hope so if i buy it.

In the diablowiki you can read some nice skills that add some speed ;)

For example in the Berserker Skill Tree:



Frenzy

* Active Skill
* Rune Sockets: 1
* Max Rank: 1
* Description: When attacking with Frenzy, the Barbarian's weapon damage and attack speed are increased. Frenzy can be used repeatedly, stacking the speed bonus up to three times.
o Rank 1: Deals 120% weapon damage. In addition, attack speed is increased by 6% for 10 seconds. (Up to 18%, with stacking.)
* Fury Cost: None






Onslaught

* Active Skill
* Rune Sockets: 0
* Max Rank: 1
* Description: Increases attack speed by X%. Drains Fury while in use. Lasts for X seconds.
* Fury Cost: None

This was another description that was very hard to read, so no values are available. The skill's function is clear, though. It increases the Barbarian's attack speed for a few seconds, and drains Fury all the while. It runs for the allowed duration (around 10 seconds per use) or until the Fury runs out. (More Fury can be added while this skill is in use, of course. Hitting things with a super speed Barbarian is a great way to add Fury, after all.)





Looks like Onslaught works always, with each weapon or skill you use.



And there are also some passives increasing the duration of these skills.

And we don't know about the equipment yet.

Echod16
12-02-2009, 04:51
*Bob the Necromancer casts LifeTap on sexy nurses*

Ya...Tap that Bob...

/thread runier

Durin
12-02-2009, 19:24
It seems odd that Blizzard would make the Barb look so old. Im not complaining, im just saying its weird, since a more younger looking character would have a bigger appeal to most gamers. Is it possible that the barb they showed us is not actualy the playable model we use, but simply something like a merc, or a guide, similar to what cain was? If thats true, could Cain die, and the new Barb be the New Cain?
That's not truth, only fags prefer the younger one ( has body that makes them feel horny ) etc... I don't want to make anyone feel bad, I just say the facts.

So young barbarian would be lame. D3 barbarian is far more interesting character.

Doctor Salvador
12-02-2009, 20:11
^^^ That was a pretty obtuse statement, you should probably edit that.

But I do agree that the older Barbarian is superior to that young fellow some people miss.

Mizantrop
13-02-2009, 12:35
That's not truth, only fags prefer the younger one ( has body that makes them feel horny ) etc... I don't want to make anyone feel bad, I just say the facts.

So young barbarian would be lame. D3 barbarian is far more interesting character.

The way to get attracted by different ages of the same class is not necessarily sexual. Some players prefer the power of eternal youth represented in a younger hero while others prefer the wisdom of old age.

Durin
13-02-2009, 19:10
The way to get attracted by different ages of the same class is not necessarily sexual. Some players prefer the power of eternal youth represented in a younger hero while others prefer the wisdom of old age.

Well I don't know, like it or not, asking for the young one in front of the old one looks *** no matter what caused such desire. So be glad that we have wise old Barbarian instead of some young Schwarzenegger.

Psyco
17-02-2009, 15:42
like the look on the new barb he look wise like so many said and didint lose that barbarian look and savagery to decapitate everything

Echod16
17-02-2009, 17:10
I like the weathered look the "new" barbarian brings to the table, to me it's a nice step away from all of the 20 year old man-boys I've been forced to play in recent RPGs.

Sure, there bones may be aching, but they're most definitely stronger than their younger versions. It's kinda like how you're never stronger than your pops.

Btw, Durin, there is no place of anti-*** sentiments, even if it's just about a classes age. Your reason for it to begin with makes me wonder about you. We can respect your wanting of an older barbarian, but you just don't need to bring in your reasons of why if it's discriminating to others.

Durin
17-02-2009, 23:53
Btw, Durin, there is no place of anti-*** sentiments, even if it's just about a classes age. Your reason for it to begin with makes me wonder about you. We can respect your wanting of an older barbarian, but you just don't need to bring in your reasons of why if it's discriminating to others.
I'm just sick of 300 fanboyism. If you want young schwarzeneggers go play something else plz.

Bladewind
18-02-2009, 00:52
Old Schwarzenegger is better than young Schwarzenegger. ;)

Echod16
18-02-2009, 20:20
I'm just sick of 300 fanboyism. If you want young schwarzeneggers go play something else plz.

Fair enough, that's kinda in the realm of why I like the new Barbarian also : )

Out with the young, in with the old and grumpy!

Popeye
18-02-2009, 21:08
The age of an old barbarian makes you instantly wonder about his past and the reason of his bad temper. Here we are talking about a desperate character, who losed his land and can even feel that his entire quest was a failure.
That makes the lore more profund and interesting, and in the diablo sage, thats great.

Mizantrop
18-02-2009, 23:47
The age of an old barbarian makes you instantly wonder about his past and the reason of his bad temper. Here we are talking about a desperate character, who losed his land and can even feel that his entire quest was a failure.
That makes the lore more profund and interesting, and in the diablo sage, thats great.

I miss read your post and thought you said
who lost his hand :ashamed:
But that gave me an idea. Why should the barbarian be healthy and whole 20 after 20 more years in a harsh and unforgiven land. Wouldn't it be cool if he lost his hand for instance and would have a Claw as a weapon? He could still use it for 2H or a shield. But when he wants to dual-wield he could enchant it with gems or switch it into a spike.

Psyco
19-02-2009, 12:05
But that gave me an idea. Why should the barbarian be healthy and whole 20 after 20 more years in a harsh and unforgiven land. Wouldn't it be cool if he lost his hand for instance and would have a Claw as a weapon? He could still use it for 2H or a shield. But when he wants to dual-wield he could enchant it with gems or switch it into a spike.

emmmm...no :P

and since he made it out alive out of hell and the 3 evil...i doubt he would have trouble surviving in the meantime....then again in D2 some of D1 heroes have ben twisted by evil

i really like it if he's really the barb from D2 he grew older...wiser and didint lose is savage side...really love to see an hero of Diablo making its comeback like this and that he didint go mad or didint die

and is revamp is more then welcome also

Popeye
19-02-2009, 13:10
In a hard world losing his hand would probably expain why he is in such a bad mood

Grug
19-02-2009, 20:18
That's a bad idea, Mizantrop. Giving the Barb his own mechanic would sort of screw up the focus on items and dungeons. I don't know what the word is for it. It's just not... "necessary"?

Mizantrop
20-02-2009, 00:09
That's a bad idea, Mizantrop. Giving the Barb his own mechanic would sort of screw up the focus on items and dungeons. I don't know what the word is for it. It's just not... "necessary"?

Ofc it wasn't a realistic suggestion, I just wanted to share with you guys some of my dark and twisted imagination :wink:

Durin
20-02-2009, 02:27
The age of an old barbarian makes you instantly wonder about his past and the reason of his bad temper. Here we are talking about a desperate character, who losed his land and can even feel that his entire quest was a failure.
That makes the lore more profund and interesting, and in the diablo sage, thats great.
"desperate character"? Where did you get that from? He outlived prime evils! On dialogue videos he looks pretty much more self confident and relaxed than ever. He is fighting against hell all his life, it has become his lifestyle, without holly war he would die of boredom and weariness. I mean evil is keeping him being strong and resistant "rebellious"!! Peace would only make him weak and decadent as any other human being. As long there is something to fight for >> he lives in glory :}

Grug
20-02-2009, 03:18
No, he lives in shame. Even after all his efforts in Diablo 2, the World Stone and his people were still destroyed. He's wandered the earth since then, brooding about his failure to uphold the thousand year-old mission that every Barbarian inherits. He is definitely not proud.

I wouldn't call him "self-confident" and "relaxed". I would call him "hateful" and "grim".

Durin
20-02-2009, 11:19
No, he lives in shame. Even after all his efforts in Diablo 2, the World Stone and his people were still destroyed. He's wandered the earth since then, brooding about his failure to uphold the thousand year-old mission that every Barbarian inherits. He is definitely not proud.

I wouldn't call him "self-confident" and "relaxed". I would call him "hateful" and "grim".
Wtf are you talking about? Failure? Even if you call it a failure he is the only one that has succeeded in defeating prime evils. So self-confidence is his characteristic like it or not, because he is on top of his race considering life achievements and strength. Of course he is hateful, but being hateful doesn't mean "not-confident" I don't see any logic in your post. Hate only gives you focus, it does not take away confidence.
He lives in shame??? oO Then imagine in what shame you live... You can't even fight against natural wolf, stupid wolf would rip you apart.

Doctor Salvador
20-02-2009, 19:33
Wtf are you talking about? Failure? Even if you call it a failure he is the only one that has succeeded in defeating prime evils. So self-confidence is his characteristic like it or not, because he is on top of his race considering life achievements and strength. Of course he is hateful, but being hateful doesn't mean "not-confident" I don't see any logic in your post. Hate only gives you focus, it does not take away confidence.
He lives in shame??? oO Then imagine in what shame you live... You can't even fight against natural wolf, stupid wolf would rip you apart.

In a Barbarian's (From Sanctuary) mindset, Defeating the Three Primes doesn't mean squat, 'cause he failed in the end. Sure, he's confident he can kill some demons, but a lot of that confidence was squashed when the worldstone was destroyed. I don't even think he has a lot of hate, I'm thinking he just wants to restore the Pride of his people by wiping the Burning Hells of the face of the earth.

Relaxed is pretty wrong too, but I see what you're seeing, it's just the wrong word. I'd say he's just stoic and kind of sets his jaw and doesn't like to show how pissed/sad/disgraced he is. After killing so many 'things' and seeing his allies go mad, his own mind is probably constantly in turmoil, so the only way he knows of dealing with it is keeping all that junk locked up.

AtomicJ
21-02-2009, 07:39
^ Agreed. IIRC, they actually talked about this in the lore videos and on the official site. So it's pretty much stated by Blizzard that they wanted to portray the Barb and his race as "disgraced". That's not to say he mopes around all day in a sullen mood, though I'm sure his character will be a little despondent in the game. It just focuses him on regaining the World Stone and restoring the glory of the Barb tribes.

Tragedian
21-02-2009, 09:44
I'm liking the new Barbarian. I wouldn't normally play as him, since I'm more into ranged classes, but this new take on the D3 barbarian being the old D2 one makes me want to play a Barb now. I feel sympathy for him since my friend I played D2 with mained a Barb. >.>