View Full Version : D3 = Gauntlet arcade-style garbage
I realize many players might be ticked but I'm just telling it how I see. I'm 24 and have grown up playing Diablo since I was in 7th grade... everyone who played then remembers killing the Butcher underneath the cathedral... or first time dropping into Duriels Lair going "ohhhh crap get me outta here!" lol
When I see the video of D3, I was disappointed to say the least. I don't have that same feel, what I see is Blizzard's attempt to make a more WoW-arcade-like style of diablo into a game. I realize that a large portion of their crew left to Flagship and World of Warcraft is like their "franchise" game now, but this is ridiculously obvious... they even use the same toony looking game engine.
Everyone remembers playing Gauntlet the arcade game:yes:. You run around in a semi-3d environment killing mobs of monsters that swarm out, die and fade away, and drop health on the ground for you to pick up. That's what I see them doing to Diablo now... yayy.. lets make an arcade-style version like Gauntlet with hot keys and quick health pots to pick up on the fly! "Oh no I died, gotta insert another quarter" lol jk, but seriously. It didn't even seem like a step forward, more of a step back in time... games like Hunters: The Reckoning have been doing this long before D3 came out. You run around in an arcade-like party mowing down mobs.... oh, and at the end of the stage... gotta have the BIG BOSS battle. seroiusly... that is just hackneyed garbage... and if you wanna say new.. well, then your right.. Diablo has evolved... it's evolved into a completely different game.
Also, at least with Hunters, the gameplay was fairly fast and fluid... just keep blasting and jumping and dodging. This game from what I've seen with the Barbs game-play.. it looked so slow and lathargic. Instead of the barbs' swings being elengant and smooth.. it was the same *bash*.... *bash* every 1.5 seconds, and even the ww looked clumsy. I really hope that they improve that, because it just looked so slow. Maybe even add a speed burst button for a little heighted gameplay, but man if that's as fast it gets that'll rock me to sleep, I think more hardcore gamers will be turned off by them nullifying everything. And don't throw this "only 'cause you cant use enigma?" at me, I've been enjoying D1 & D2 years before they cheesed it out over the last couple years.
The environment was improved... well... can you say, nothing more than we'd expect for waiting 7 years?:scratchchin: They're boasting about how it has interactive elements now. I'm sorry but preset traps and areas doesn't count... Duke Nukems been doing "interactive" since friggin '93 or so, I was expecting more along the lines of running through forests and missing fireballs and burning down trees, etc. Shooting a preset boulder that falls on a group of preplaced mobs is nothing new. Also, where to explore? Doesn't seem like ya can go anywhere to tell the truth... just follow the path to the boss? Not to say that it can't still make a cool game, just a cool looking Gauntlet-game.
I think anyone who's been waiting for the original Diablo, dark gothy-look or heightened game play is gonna be disappointed. If you're looking for Diablo to go more in the direction of WoW or other arcade style brawlers you'll prolly enjoy this game a lot.:yes:
stillman
30-06-2008, 22:22
I think the video was slow so they could show us some things, taking us through it slowly so we don't miss details. They didn't want to reveal the fastest potential that the barb could reach.
Omikron8
30-06-2008, 22:26
taking diablo in the direction of WoW or any MMO for that matter is a surefire way to kill the franchise quickly
I am 23 and have been playind Diablo since i was about 14-15 years old. To be completly honest, I started playing Diablo 2 with friends because I WANTED an online version of the gauntlet games. From all of the screens and gameplay it looked like Diablo 2 was just that. Gauntlet Legends online. I never knew what I would be getting myself into! :-D
So from your criticism i have to say a couple of things. First of all, you really have no real claims against the game because we have no idea how it works. We saw a brief gameplay video of a small area. i am almost 100% certain there will be areas to explore that arent required to go to in the game. Also I dont think this looks more like a Gauntlet style of game anymore than D2 did.
From the looks of the gameplay demo, we see enemies falling down easily and getting rocked and dieing quickly. I think this isnt different than Diablo 2 starting out. what they showed was the starting area of the game with a char that was probably 5-10 levels above where it should be. They had several skills as opposed to just 1-2 starting out and they were playing the beginning of the game.
In terms of the "big boss" things it looks like the unique monsters just have been upgraded. We havent seen one with minions yet, but again this isnt a final product by any means. Think of the butcher in Diablo 1...how is this different than that? From what we have seen it either isnt different or we cant judge yet to say that it is because we really dont know.
My biggest surprise here is that people are doubting blizzard. Name 1 game they have created that isnt extremely well put together and a good quality game. (WoW isnt an answer here even if you personally dont like it because it has 10 million people...that qualifies as a good game). Also WoW took a TON TON TON of content from the Diablo series. So saying "oh this is stolen from WoW" some of that is just taking back from the Diablo series.
I still dont think the graphics look cartoony. The world looks darker and scarier and gorier than anything we have seen.
Bottom line: Stop the hating until we play it and it comes out
When I see the video of D3, I was disappointed to say the least. I don't have that same feel, what I see is Blizzard's attempt to make a more WoW-arcade-like style of diablo into a game.
Diablo three looks nothing like WoW... and diablo 1-2 already had HEAVY gauntlet overtones, I'm not sure how you missed them. (spawners anyone?)
I realize that a large portion of their crew left to Flagship and World of Warcraft is like their "franchise" game now, but this is ridiculously obvious... they even use the same toony looking game engine.
You're rapidly destroying ANY credibility you had. The game engines are radically different, the environments aren't even close to similar. If you went back and made D2 in 3d, this is what it would look like.
Everyone remembers playing Gauntlet the arcade game:yes:. You run around in a semi-3d environment killing mobs of monsters that swarm out, die and fade away, and drop health on the ground for you to pick up. That's what I see them doing to Diablo now... yayy.. lets make an arcade-style version like Gauntlet with hot keys and quick health pots to pick up on the fly!
It's exactly the same as D1 and D2...
You run around in an arcade-like party mowing down mobs.... oh, and at the end of the stage... gotta have the BIG BOSS battle. seroiusly... that is just hackneyed garbage... and if you wanna say new.. well, then your right.. Diablo has evolved... it's evolved into a completely different game.
Except for the fact that D2 is the same thing in each act, not to mention, the arcane sanctuary, sewers, tombs, WSK, arcane sanctuary, sand maggot lair, flayer dungeon, and countless other areas.
seen with the Barbs game-play.. it looked so slow and lathargic. Instead of the barbs' swings being elengant and smooth.. it was the same *bash*.... *bash* every 1.5 seconds, and even the ww looked clumsy.
You've played D2 right? with the same animation for your one attack forever? and whirlwind looked the same, just instead of "Hey we have a spinning sprite!" it's "hey we have a 3d model to spin"
I really hope that they improve that, because it just looked so slow. Maybe even add a speed burst button for a little heighted gameplay, but man if that's as fast it gets that'll rock me to sleep,
Cause when I think maggot lairs I think speed run lol.
I think more hardcore gamers will be turned off by them nullifying everything. And don't throw this "only 'cause you cant use enigma?" at me, I've been enjoying D1 & D2 years before they cheesed it out over the last couple years.
Play d1 again, call that game fast... it's very slow, you pull back, fight one thing at a time through doors whenever possible and swing slow as dirt. Do you have any evidence of this 'nullifying' you are talking about? or conjecture from the one demo video?
I was expecting more along the lines of running through forests and missing fireballs and burning down trees, etc.
You mean like throughout the whole demo where stray swings would knock off pieces of walkways and tumble over loose bricks? cause that's exactly what I saw in the demo.
Shooting a preset boulder that falls on a group of preplaced mobs is nothing new.
Well yeah, it's a demo to show off the engine.
Also, where to explore? Doesn't seem like ya can go anywhere to tell the truth... just follow the path to the boss? Not to say that it can't still make a cool game, just a cool looking Gauntlet-game.
You are aware there was NOWHERE to explore in d1 and d2 right? they added side dungeons that weren't plot centric in d2. whoo hoo you have NO idea wether those are in this game or not.
I think anyone who's been waiting for the original Diablo, dark gothy-look or heightened game play is gonna be disappointed. If you're looking for Diablo to go more in the direction of WoW or other arcade style brawlers you'll prolly enjoy this game a lot.:yes:
And I think you're just looking for a reason to *****, I mean look at the amount of whining right there.
I agree with bill cosby also. He has redeemed himself from his earlier mistakes of thinking that d3 wouldn't be announced.
How can someone decide that they're not going to like something that's not going to be done for several more years that they've only seen a snippet of? This is like people disagreeing with review scores for games they haven't played yet, it's moronic.
Play the damn game and see if you like it
Threads like these are worthy of diminutives
I didnt think it wasnt going to be announced, I was just creating other possibilities so i wouldnt be dissapointed in CASE it wasnt announced ;) my anticipation was through the roof haha hence why I am hating on all the whiners
Rcuhljr : Well said :)
Some people just want to whine.
tommyTisthebest
30-06-2008, 23:17
I'm so sick of the whiners. Everything about this game is awesome and a HUGE upgrade from d2. Check out the awesome new music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geh2e57T2oY
I just hope Tommy himself rocks the guitar on a few tracks of the new soundtrack. That would be perfect.
DeathByCactus
30-06-2008, 23:32
There is not enough information given by Blizzard for anyone to say whether they will or will not play the game at the moment. I must admit I am certainly skeptical now after watching the game play video. However, thats not even a small portion of the game, there are only 2 classes announced, there are no in depth details or questions answered yet.
As far as I have seen, what they have included now has been seen before in other games but it is stuff that was not in D1 or D2. My skepticism will continue, if they are going to make drastic changes to the game then I want to see how well they implement these changes before I make any final judgments on it. Keep in mind that all previous progress on Diablo 3 during the employment of the original team has been scrapped and they have had other programmers from other backgrounds working on D3, so I would not expect an improved carbon copy of D2; you'll just be disappointed.
DeathByCactus
30-06-2008, 23:52
Double post. Delete prz.
Goddess Belldandy
01-07-2008, 00:13
I agree with Jary.
Well put.
How can someone decide that they're not going to like something that's not going to be done for several more years that they've only seen a snippet of? This is like people disagreeing with review scores for games they haven't played yet, it's moronic.
Play the damn game and see if you like it
Threads like these are worthy of diminutives
nothing more needs to be said. if you're already dismissing diablo 3 this early after 15 (!) minutes of pre-alpha gameplay footage then you're obviously just looking for excuses to whine.
stillman
01-07-2008, 00:26
The game only appears slow because they wanted us to see certain things. They did not want to show us the true speed potential.
I mean, the barb is standing there stomping his weapon into the ground several times. It's all just to show us features.
The game will be awesome. It will blow us away.
A pessimist hopes for the best, but would like others to expect the worst.
Diablo three looks nothing like WoW... and diablo 1-2 already had HEAVY gauntlet overtones, I'm not sure how you missed them. (spawners anyone?)
You're rapidly destroying ANY credibility you had. The game engines are radically different, the environments aren't even close to similar. If you went back and made D2 in 3d, this is what it would look like.
It's exactly the same as D1 and D2...
Except for the fact that D2 is the same thing in each act, not to mention, the arcane sanctuary, sewers, tombs, WSK, arcane sanctuary, sand maggot lair, flayer dungeon, and countless other areas.
You've played D2 right? with the same animation for your one attack forever? and whirlwind looked the same, just instead of "Hey we have a spinning sprite!" it's "hey we have a 3d model to spin"
Cause when I think maggot lairs I think speed run lol.
Play d1 again, call that game fast... it's very slow, you pull back, fight one thing at a time through doors whenever possible and swing slow as dirt. Do you have any evidence of this 'nullifying' you are talking about? or conjecture from the one demo video?
You mean like throughout the whole demo where stray swings would knock off pieces of walkways and tumble over loose bricks? cause that's exactly what I saw in the demo.
Well yeah, it's a demo to show off the engine.
You are aware there was NOWHERE to explore in d1 and d2 right? they added side dungeons that weren't plot centric in d2. whoo hoo you have NO idea wether those are in this game or not.
And I think you're just looking for a reason to *****, I mean look at the amount of whining right there.
I meant what I said, and I gave scenarios and support on my claims, that is it. If you don't like it tough. I didn't realize you chose to take it so personal It's an opinion dude, I don't have to like something... in fact its the whole purpose of this forum aye. I wasn't even mean or flamey about it.. if anything you're the one pulling punches.
As for credibility. I think you're the one with less credibility, I'm pretty sure for a fact I've been playing this franchise longer than you and been more active in the forums than you if that means anything. So shh ^.~
Like what Cosby touched on... yeah, a lot of us have grown up with this franchise. I never said it wasn't gonna be a good game, it will prolly be really successful. I just said it wasn't like the Diablo I knew, and my comments were all gameplay-based and look-based.. I thought it looked too arcade like, and Cosby touched on a few of the issues so thank you :). I guess in the end we'll all have to see. They showed the demo portraying the game and what we are to expect..... I didn't like it, that is all. I won't say anything more though k, 'cause i don't wanna make a mountain outta a mole hole but I guess I'm in the same boat as you, I'll just have to wait and see till I find out more. = )
capnskull
01-07-2008, 01:08
Everyone remembers playing Gauntlet the arcade game. You run around in a semi-3d environment killing mobs of monsters that swarm out, die and fade away, and drop health on the ground for you to pick up. That's what I see them doing to Diablo now...
Everyone remembers playing Diablo2. You run around in a semi-3d environment killing mobs of monsters that swarm out, die and fade away, and drop health on the ground for you to pick up.
Rashiminos
01-07-2008, 01:21
The new whirlwind shows the barb actually spinning his weapons instead of a few disjoint and blurred frames... That's a good thing...
Cast_Raider
01-07-2008, 01:21
Everyone remembers playing Gauntlet the arcade game. You run around in a semi-3d environment killing mobs of monsters that swarm out, die and fade away, and drop health on the ground for you to pick up.
You run around in an arcade-like party mowing down mobs.... oh, and at the end of the stage... gotta have the BIG BOSS battle.
Also, where to explore? Doesn't seem like ya can go anywhere to tell the truth... just follow the path to the boss?
Soo...mobs of monsters die and drop health replinishers, you run around in a party, making your way along a predetermined path, and finally face off against the act boss.
Nope, doesn't sound a bit like Diablo to me!
LOL. ok then. :thumbup: you all disregard my real points though, pft
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
LOL. ok then. :thumbup: you all disregard my real points though, pft
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
That's a bad way to try and win the argument.
But I think most of them made good points. You should wait till the game is at least a little more revealed to start knocking it and complaining like you were.
LOL. ok then. :thumbup: you all disregard my real points though, pft
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
ah right, because the number of posts someone has in a gamin forum always correlates with the amount of experience or time they invested in a game. good job at throwing away all credibility you raised in this argument.
Cast_Raider
01-07-2008, 02:14
LOL. ok then. :thumbup: you all disregard my real points though, pft
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
What was your "real point" then? Hey guys, Diablo 3 is going to be like Gauntlet?
Sorry to be a smartypants, but umm..."duh"? Diablo 1 and 2 were like Gauntlet! Only with customizable characters and gear.
Also there must have been some sort of forums glitch because I was mainly playing and posting from 2000~2002. Not that it should really matter.
sarnsereg
01-07-2008, 08:18
the only thing that worries me is it looks amazingly like flagships mythos.. which i have played and quite honestly can say it's not nearly as fun as diablo or diablo 2 and IMO did not take the genre in the proper direction.
The thing you are missing is that Gauntlet is ****ing awesome.
Also, Diablo always was a glorified, albeit awesome, Gauntlet clone.
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
Oops, I've been a member for longer than you.
LOL. ok then. :thumbup: you all disregard my real points though, pft
Bah, not even worth it, I'm done with this thread. All tearing into me simply for not agreeing LOL... all have like 2-3 posts, yeah I take you really seriously, clearly most of you are not even very active of members of this community and have no idea what they're talking about so I'll save my breath. good day sirs
So, you assume people who have more posts would agree with you?
Not at all.
mjkittredge
01-07-2008, 09:04
Oh ye of little faith.
OP, I think Diablo 3 will be awesome and make the vast majority of Diablo fans happy. I'm not going to bash you for disagreeing. You are entitled your opinion and don't deserve to get flamed for expressing you initial dissapointment, which is simply based on what precious little we know so far.
As time goes on, we'll see more things, like the skill tree, the other 3 character classes, and quite possibly some big changes to the things we've seen so far in the gameplay video. If the game is not quite to your liking now - wait a few months, it may change so drastically you'll become a believer.
Gauntlet was a lot of fun, WoW was a lot of fun. If D3 takes elements from those, that could be a very good thing.
As far as a dark gothy look - we've seen probably less than 1% of the game areas the final release will include. As far as things being slow, most characters in D1 and D2 started off a bit slow, and the gameplay got faster as the characters gained higher levels, with attack speed and faster cast rate and run speed all improving.
Designers have a tough decision to make when they create a sequel. Do they create a carbon copy of the previous game with improved graphics and a few new features, or do they reinvent the wheel while keeping a few elements from the previous game? Blizzard has been a bold company, creating new things, going in different directions. They don't make copies of old games that simply look prettier. They make a brand new game that is improved as much as possible. D2 was a huge departure from D1. I yearned for some elements of D1, but then I loved the new goodies in D2.
We ALL had idealized dreams of what Diablo 3 would look like, how it would play, what new features it would have. But it's not our game. It's Blizzards. They have the expertise and the sterling track record. They take their time to give us the best game possible, and they really do care.
saint_of_killers
02-07-2008, 07:36
they even use the same toony looking game engine.
WoW = enhanced WC3 engine
D3 = custom engine w/ havok physics
(do research, please)
I think anyone who's been waiting for the original Diablo, dark gothy-look or heightened game play is gonna be disappointed. If you're looking for Diablo to go more in the direction of WoW or other arcade style brawlers you'll prolly enjoy this game a lot.:yes:
you've played the game already?!? sweet!! tell me, what are all 5 classes? How is diablo freed? How many acts are? Etc, etc. PLEASE LET ME KNOW
(see first parethetical, please)
WoW = enhanced WC3 engine
D3 = custom engine w/ havok physics
(do research, please)
I'd be willing to bet the WC3 engine is directly related to not only the SC2 engine and the WoW engine but also the D3 engine.
And even if it isnt the same "engine" chances are a lot of the code from either iteration is part of the D3 engine.
I'd also be willing to bet that the D3 engine is very very closely related to SC2. SC2 is using havok physics also isn't it? or is it just generic physics?
raveharu
02-07-2008, 10:05
WoW = enhanced WC3 engine
D3 = custom engine w/ havok physics
(do research, please)
you've played the game already?!? sweet!! tell me, what are all 5 classes? How is diablo freed? How many acts are? Etc, etc. PLEASE LET ME KNOW
(see first parethetical, please)
This little kid probably just want attention, let's just ignore him and let this insignificant thread burn in hell.
Ace_wanderer
02-07-2008, 13:42
I agree with Jary, it looks a bit too arcadish, the sounds and animations. Its sort of like going from Battlefield to Battlefield 2, I didnt like BF2 because it was too arcadish, its hard to explain.
Ragefist
02-07-2008, 14:12
Blizzard is smart and doesn't push the limits of graphics. D2 never pushed the limits at all and D3 doesn't either. Blizzard makes a playable game rather than a slide show.... very smart people. Wait and see.
StevenBrouwer
02-07-2008, 14:26
I think the problem with this early footage is is that the enemies aren't that terrifying. I think that has two reasons: The barb is a too high lvl for it's stage, but also the monsters and bosses are moving slow. You can just walk away or walk behind them and they won't be able to attack. See how long the siege breaker takes to turn around.
If I remember the blacksmit you had to kill for quest 5 in act 1 was moving fast as hell and I was crapping my pants for him.
Yet this siege breaker gives me the idea that I could just walk away from the fight if I wasn't winning and he wouldn't catch up.
Yeah the siege breaker takes a long time to turn around but when it finally does ... ouch!
This is something that it would be great to see more of - enemies with moves that are practically avoidable even without super-low ping times, but HURT if you're not taking care. Definitely beats just focusing on upping damage, armor, resists, hp, leech etc. to kill faster and live longer.
saint_of_killers
03-07-2008, 03:59
I'd also be willing to bet that the D3 engine is very very closely related to SC2. SC2 is using havok physics also isn't it? or is it just generic physics?
yes, SC2 is using havok physics. And you're probably right, their engines may be identical. But they aren't an enhanced version of WC3...
That being said, it doesn't matter what engine 2 separate games are using. They could still easily have completely different art directions (see Team Fortress 2 and almost any other Source game).
With some changes, they could easily make a game using the WoW/WC3 engine look dark, gritty, gothic, emo, etc. The quality will be the same, but the style can change.
Just wanted to clarify the OP's choice of words. In no way is D3 using the same engine as WoW. Style/direction? Well, that's your opinion.
Yep, Even Diablo 2 didn't quite capture the scary atmosphere of the original, and blizzard's latest incarnation isn't even close now. The good news is that there is still a bunch of time for change.
edit - holy **** aug '03 lol.
i truly honestly think they will make diablo a free to play MMO of some sort..perhaps their own "style"
use that WoW money.. let those silly grinders pay for our content! ;)
^- ya, diablo had a way better feel then diablo 2..the monster,items, and characters still look cooler then the diablo 2 chars imo
Oops, I've been a member for longer than you.
As have I, but he's somehow been magically playing the diablo franchise longer then me. Honestly it's been a long time since I've seen someone try to win an argument using the "I have more posts then you, so I'm more credible!" argument, it's good to see some amounts of failure on the internet stay constant.
it's good to see some amounts of failure on the internet stay constant.
Yeah, replying to two day old posts, is my favourite. :)
deepfreez
03-07-2008, 20:36
I'm guessing no one ever heard of increased attack speed and increased walk/run speed? The game will without a doubt be way more faster when you are imba geared.
I also agree with Bill Cosby, totally true. Stop whining! WoW stole more from D2 than D3 will be ever be able to steal back.
TraderScope
03-07-2008, 20:39
Nay. (a short reply and the word that all of the nay-sayers use nowadays.)
Diablo 3 doesn't look cartoony. It looks like a 3d version of D2 so it's going to look different. It isn't using the same engine as WoW.
We run round killing increasingly harder monsters who drop things to consume, wear, wield or sell, completing quests until the end and then there's PvP. You could sum up Diablo 2 that way and I bet if you wanted to boil Diablo 3 down to that (after release) you could. You could for most games. We could make any game sound naff if we were that way inclined - run round, shoot stuff, grab flag, head back to base could sum up any shooter. Build loads of tanks, march into their base, kill them all would do for most rts's. But there will often be much more to it than that and it's about the execution of those elements.
Fair enough, you're disappointed in the tiny weeny bit you've seen so far but I have a feeling despite that you'll stick around hoping your concerns are set to rest. I bet they will be for the most part, apart from the palette shift possibly. You'll just have to be content with tweaking your monitor settings to drain some of the saturation.
It's a bit limiting to suggest the only way to create impending doom and danger is grey, medium grey, dark grey and a bit of brown thrown in for variety. Some of those altered shots, supposedly improved, aren't at all, they look like they have been put through the washer, they don't look gritty, just washed out and pish. This shot (http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=660) to me looks good, it's dark and cold, the only warm colours coming from the candles and torches. Same with this one (http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=657). I'm left in no doubt I'm not poncing around in Toy Story in either of those shots.
The demo was a choreographed piece to show off as many elements as Blizzard wanted to show so it should be taken at face value. It wasn't a playable demo or even an alpha.
Yeah, replying to two day old posts, is my favourite. :)
Because posts become invalid after two days. :wink:
Angel_of_Wrath
03-07-2008, 22:36
knowledge
Great post Elly, nice summary. I agree with pretty much all of it and, despite some early concerns, have no doubt i will pre-order a collectors edition.
My question for your screenies though is, why are the stones green instead of 'stone' coloured? I like colour but not necessarily for colour's sake. I suspect its to make later game castles/dungeons look more menacing but.. IMO the modified screen of that one with the stones as stone colours and orange glow from the candles seem to suit it better.
I disagree with the OP, because this is how i remember Gauntlet:
http://www.rampantgames.com/blog/uploaded_images/gauntlet-ss2-783105.gif
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