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Two questions: Do you think we will meet Mephisto and Baal in Diablo 3? Do you want to meet them in Diablo 3?
Seeing how they can bring Diablo back, even though we allready killed him, they shouldn't have any problems with these two if they wish to include them in the game. I am torn. Diablo wouldn't feel the same without them, but I guess it would be kind of repetitive with them.
Oscarius
29-06-2008, 20:05
I'd like to meet them, atleast Mephisto, he's always been my favourite bad guy, but who knows? I guess they'll be replaced as act bosses by Azmodan and Belial.
psykeman420
30-06-2008, 01:37
Mephisto has to be in....who else am I going to kill until the end of time for drops until Act 5 is added and we have pindleskin :P
SmittySixTen
30-06-2008, 06:10
Baal is easy. His stone was never actually destroyed, unless the Worldstone counts (which, for the sake of bringing him back, it doesn't have to).
Meph is a little bit more difficult. Not only was he killed, but his stone was smashed. However, if they can find a viable way to bring Diablo back then Meph would work as well, and likely be back by default.
Hello Jim
30-06-2008, 11:09
Diablo without Diablo isn't Diablo. Diablo without Mephisto IS Diablo.
IMO, new game means new act Bosses. Since Meph can't really change, it'd be boring. The whole point is waiting and fighting your way to see the bigass Boss.
Diablo has some nice brand new shoulders...
Id prefer to see Azmodan and Belial, if they are still in existence. Ambitious Lesser Evils given a chance to shine while Diablo is gaining his strength to rise again.
I won't complain if we see Mephisto and Baal again, but ive done enough runs on those 2 guys, id like to farm someone different this time around :D
lionheart
05-07-2008, 10:21
I prefer to see the lesser evils than Diablo again. Come on guys how many times do we have to kill him to actually get rid of him. It's becoming a pointless thing to do if he comes back again...
After we did Diablo, Baal and Mephisto in Uber trist.
I really hope they bring nothing less as final boss.
I hope we get new act bosses yes. But we need something epic as final boss. Otherwise its just gonna be an anticlimax.
And yeah. i know the old, How many times do we have to kill this dude.
the answer. always once more ;)
lionheart
05-07-2008, 12:03
Well unless they wanna keep the franchise going forever they have to come up with a way to get rid of him or make it impossible to access sanctuary. Mind u its not a problem for me if they keep making diablo games until i get old :D
snugglson
05-07-2008, 22:10
Well unless they wanna keep the franchise going forever they have to come up with a way to get rid of him or make it impossible to access sanctuary. Mind u its not a problem for me if they keep making diablo games until i get old :D
Oh they will keep it going, as an MMO after D3.
lionheart
06-07-2008, 00:21
Which for me is the same as if they didnt lol they change the format i change my loyalty :P
Thirty-Thirty
06-07-2008, 12:36
Two questions: Do you think we will meet Mephisto and Baal in Diablo 3?Short answer? Yes, I think we'll see them again. In what form, however, I have totally no idea. My personal feeling is the Azmodan and Belial will lead the forces of Hell initially in the game, with the Big 3 slowly becoming resurgent, lead by Big D. Meph and Baal may appear only as warmup fights for Diablo, but I think they'll be there.
Do you want to meet them in Diablo 3?
Why not? It'll be nostalgic. :D I don't think any of this story stuff will lead to repetitive gameplay. We face Diablo in D1 and D2, and there was nothing repetitive about that. As long as Blizzard make it feel new and exciting - which I don't doubt they will - it'll be another chance for strategy discussions and ph4t l3wt!1!1 :p
ThulRasha
07-07-2008, 11:51
Diablo has some nice brand new shoulders...
Mephisto and Baal :thumbup:
Paladuck
07-07-2008, 12:01
They aren't dead. They've been banished from the mortal realm. Destroying the soulstones didn't kill them, it destroyed their ability to manifest in the mortal world.
fromtheshadow
10-06-2009, 01:57
i think read somewhere, that D3 devs said that diablo3 would be last this story line, though sanctuary related games may continue.
so i think it would be befitting to end this series with a uberclimatic final boss, where all three of the prime evils are present, with diablo clearly being the leader and the tougher one. the final battle should be so epic that the surounding enviorment would be trashed and shacking, it should also involve the angels helping out to make it winable
like thirty-thirty said i think it be much cooler if intially azmodon and belial were to lead hells efforts and it'd seem like the games focused on them but 2/3 of the game over, once you ve dealt with the two and think hell's beaten, the prime evils take centre stage.
BigKevSexyMan
10-06-2009, 08:34
Well, let's not forget about the all too important expansion pack.
fromtheshadow
10-06-2009, 08:50
the expansion can involve battling the high heavens for the independance of sanctuary
Death_Frog
10-06-2009, 09:50
Dude, I have a great idea!
What if Tyrael had actually been secretly using these heroes for his gain? He went against the wishes of heaven by interferring. What if he wanted to rid the prime evils and stake claim of Sactuary for himself.
He could be the final boss. Imagine going through the whole story thinking Tyrael was a great ally only to find out he had been scheming to destroy the worldstone and take over Sanctuary now that hell and heaven can't stop him.
I think that storyline would be the ultimate climax after beating all 3 prime evils to find out Tyrael has turned against humanity!
What if Tyrael had actually been secretly using these heroes for his gain? He went against the wishes of heaven by interferring. What if he wanted to rid the prime evils and stake claim of Sactuary for himself.
I love the enthusiasm, but I don't think this would ever happen. Remember, Tyrael is the ArchAngel of Justice!
However, I do agree that the two mouths on Diablo's shoulders could be Meph and Baal. Blizz could work it that in order to summon the three back to Sanctuary they would need to combine their powers, resulting in the creature shown as Diablo.
dotatough
10-06-2009, 15:22
Really, Mephisto isnt "dead"
He was just banished back to hell.
dont care for baal - i want meph^^he doesnt need to be in the gameplay part... it would be enough for me to see him in cinematics (or AT LEAST hear about him in those books u can listen to while playing) cause he has the longest history with the angels which are (judging by the concept art) going to have atleast some part in d3... I cant imagine having to play a diablo3 without meph :( he is like the godfather while diablo was only the hitman... and baal... well he is that idiot who tries to start a massive attack after everybody else on his side of the battlefield is dead^^
i only accept a diablo3 without meph if i see a documentary on how blizzard spent years of brainstorming a way to forge meph plausible into d3's story without a result xD nah just kidding... but i really would like to see him again^^
fromtheshadow
10-06-2009, 23:07
i thought diablo was the leader and planer in the trio, not mephisto.
I thought Mephisto was too easy to kill in Diablo 2, so I think they should bring him back and make him tougher. However, don't bring back Baal. He just has his minions fight for him. He's too weak and he doesn't even look scary. He looks like an old man with spider legs. Lame. We need new villains to go along with Diablo or the game will get boring. As for Diablo, I don't care how many times I have to fight him; just as long as they keep changing his look a bit and making him tougher and bigger in each squeal.
Ludacris
14-06-2009, 00:48
The Durance of Hate level 3 was merely a setback. Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some demon? Hahahaha... Oh no, no, no, he was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this...and this time, you will not interfere.
That'll be his introductionary line in Diablo 3.
keep in mind we never really have killed diablo yet, we have only killed the people he has possessed. And each time he has taken up a step, so this time he will be better, i think the final time we will kill diablo is when we actually fight his true form and not somebody possesed by him.
GuardianHadriel
02-07-2009, 16:04
I´d love Havin' Diablo as the final boss, not the old pesky Baal(he´s still cool;D) or
Azmodan/Belial, they´re just kids compared to Big D and his brethren.
slex lord of hatred
02-07-2009, 18:07
i have a strange feeling that baal and mephisto are the two mouths on his shoulders i dont know how but i do. therefore new final boss who has managed to assemble itself from 3 souls.
then there can be new act bosses.
and cain can die bringing in leah
I love the enthusiasm, but I don't think this would ever happen. Remember, Tyrael is the ArchAngel of Justice!
However, I do agree that the two mouths on Diablo's shoulders could be Meph and Baal. Blizz could work it that in order to summon the three back to Sanctuary they would need to combine their powers, resulting in the creature shown as Diablo.
But if it's a combination of all three, then why would it assume the form of Diablo? Mephisto is actually the most powerful of the brothers, not Diablo.
But if it's a combination of all three, then why would it assume the form of Diablo? Mephisto is actually the most powerful of the brothers, not Diablo.
Because the game's name is Diablo? ;)
No matter what the lore says, I think people would be little dissapointed if Diablo wouldn't be the "main guy" in such a hybrid.
HaakonXCI
10-07-2009, 00:26
Because the game's name is Diablo? ;)
No matter what the lore says, I think people would be little dissapointed if Diablo wouldn't be the "main guy" in such a hybrid.
Yeah I agree. If Diablo isnt the main guy with all the bells n whistles of hatred, evil, fire, hell and death then it'd be a bit of a letdown to see some other guy take his place. Right now I'm actually JUST starting to play Diablo 2 (woohoo). Even though I'm what, 10 years late doesnt mean I can't enjoy it still and expect some cool stuff in Diablo 3.
What I'm guessing that theyre doing with Diablo 3 is that they're making it so new players like myself and some who havent played any of em at all still be able to pickup on the story and enjoy it without having to know the deep lore behind it all.
fromtheshadow
10-07-2009, 02:04
But if it's a combination of all three, then why would it assume the form of Diablo? Mephisto is actually the most powerful of the brothers, not Diablo.
what would make you think that mephisto is the most powerful? simply cause he is the oldest of the three?
it's pretty clear that diablo is the leader of the prime evils: main title!, it's also been mentioned in the novels that he is the leader.
also diablo is said to be the only figure that the arch angels fear.
what would make you think that mephisto is the most powerful? simply cause he is the oldest of the three?
it's pretty clear that diablo is the leader of the prime evils: main title!, it's also been mentioned in the novels that he is the leader.
also diablo is said to be the only figure that the arch angels fear.
i think the books are kind of controversial about this... in the kingdom of shadows it is said that diablo is the most powerfull one, but in the sinwar we find evidence that mephisto is the one with the most power... the 3 prime evils had this religion on sanctuary... i think it was called triune or something like that... and all the 3 prime evils each had a son of them there, to manage it... that religion again was divided into the priests of bala (baal), the priests of dialon (diablo) and the priests of mefis (mephisto)... this religion apearred to be a peacefull one but it was used to corrupt the realm of sanctuary... and the book says that the priests of mefis were those with the most influence on the religion... and the leader of the religion himself, who is the only one who isnt catogorized to one of those "gods" is lucion, the son of mefis (again, mephisto)... the sons of the other 2 prime evils were arround in the main temple but apeared to have no power at all...
i think this is a very clear sign that mephisto is the one in charge or why else would his son be the one with the most privileges?
fromtheshadow
18-07-2009, 03:28
i think the books are kind of controversial about this... in the kingdom of shadows it is said that diablo is the most powerfull one, but in the sinwar we find evidence that mephisto is the one with the most power... the 3 prime evils had this religion on sanctuary... i think it was called triune or something like that... and all the 3 prime evils each had a son of them there, to manage it... that religion again was divided into the priests of bala (baal), the priests of dialon (diablo) and the priests of mefis (mephisto)... this religion apearred to be a peacefull one but it was used to corrupt the realm of sanctuary... and the book says that the priests of mefis were those with the most influence on the religion... and the leader of the religion himself, who is the only one who isnt catogorized to one of those "gods" is lucion, the son of mefis (again, mephisto)... the sons of the other 2 prime evils were arround in the main temple but apeared to have no power at all...
i think this is a very clear sign that mephisto is the one in charge or why else would his son be the one with the most privileges?
the only reason mephisto's sect was more important was cause the religion it self was being mainly operated by mephisto and his son also neither diablo or baal seem to have sons or daughters (it was not mentioned in the book) and even if they did have any they were not apart of the triune, and mephisto's son naturally was of higher status than other minions of the prime evils because he was a offspring of one of the prime evils.
on the other hand it is said a few times that diablo is the most powerful.
mephisto only seems to be more diplomatic and because of being the lord of hated more to do with corrupt religions
Mephisto is the leader and strategist of the three brothers. He is also the oldest and the most evil of the three, but Diablo is the youngest and most powerful of the three. I've read this from game lore.
So, I guess this leaves Baal as just the middle child.
slex lord of hatred
18-07-2009, 19:41
its been said many times i cant think where that mephiston is the most evil but not the most powerful , that was why he wasnt the main boss.
baal was just te lord of destruction who was left till last so he could do what he wanted.
i think it would be cool to finish the diablo series by fighting all three in one. that way we can have other bosses while the prime evils stay in it somehow.
i wold also like to see andariel back but i think she might have been replaced now by the mistress of pain.
a.k.a margaret thatcher.
DavidJewer
20-07-2009, 09:11
Diablo, Meph and Baal should all combine like the Power Ranger's Zords.
GuardianHadriel
20-07-2009, 17:58
Mephisto is the leader and strategist of the three brothers. He is also the oldest and the most evil of the three, but Diablo is the youngest and most powerful of the three. I've read this from game lore.
So, I guess this leaves Baal as just the middle child.
Diablo is the leader of th three, as the tome says in D1
The cinematic in Diablo 2 made it seem like Meph was incharge. Thats why I think he is the leader, but I could be wrong.
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