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Ilikestuff
30-05-2008, 14:19
I thought maybe this would be a good idea to tackle the problem of tppk's.

Its kinda similar to the blacklisting thread, only its not about avoidance, its about revenge ^^

see, if you know the account of a tppker, type it here, with a reward for their ear.

For example you post the acc name (eg. *ilikestufftoo), and a reward (eg. Hellslayer)

so if they enter your game, the tables can be turned, and they wont see it coming.

its all about thinning the herd and making them as nervous as we all are!!

just an idea. . .

dwaasjetuw
30-05-2008, 14:37
its impossible to kill tppk-ers
the instant you hostile them they are in town

Ilikestuff
30-05-2008, 14:42
its impossible to kill tppk-ers
the instant you hostile them they are in town

Then this also works to our advantage. as long as we turn the tables and make them the hunted, rather than the hunters, theyre numbers will start to fall.

if they cant tppk, because we've already hostiled them, all thats left is to pk, and i believe tppkers are the cowards of the pk world. they wont come and tackle you toe to toe, and if they do, you stand a chance of claiming a reward for their ear ^^

Zelator
30-05-2008, 15:17
Then this also works to our advantage. as long as we turn the tables and make them the hunted, rather than the hunters, theyre numbers will start to fall.

if they cant tppk, because we've already hostiled them, all thats left is to pk, and i believe tppkers are the cowards of the pk world. they wont come and tackle you toe to toe, and if they do, you stand a chance of claiming a reward for their ear ^^

Actually, thats true:thumbsup:

Tai.
30-05-2008, 17:53
In my time here, I've seen perhaps a dozen "TPPK Blacklist threads" I don't think any of them has gone anywhere in terms of public games.

For blacklisting people to Banana or Gauss it's great, but who is going to remember 40 people (fairly easy to attain number) and check everyone who joins their pub Baals and hostile TPPKers.

Also, best case scenario is you hostile them and they leave that specific game. They aren't going to stop TPPKing, because killing with hacks is a numbers game. You aren't out for the thrill of the one kill you're playing the house edge and a game here or there doesn't matter to you.

The other option is that they call you out for a duel in the game using their IB sorc with AutoAim, farcast and instant tele to town when cursor put over them.

It would be a great idea if it was practical, which is the decision that is reached every time this topic comes up. Unfortunately, it inconveniences us a great deal if we spend time in pubs, as we have to keep checking a list of TPPKers anddoesn't truly inconvenience them much.

Best of Luck if you want to try it, but I wouldn't be willing to take the time to harass TPPK script kiddies everywhere they go and I certainly wouldn't want to risk a high level char of mine earning a bounty of items. That's just me though.

Zelator
30-05-2008, 20:37
In my time here, I've seen perhaps a dozen "TPPK Blacklist threads" I don't think any of them has gone anywhere in terms of public games.

For blacklisting people to Banana or Gauss it's great, but who is going to remember 40 people (fairly easy to attain number) and check everyone who joins their pub Baals and hostile TPPKers.

Also, best case scenario is you hostile them and they leave that specific game. They aren't going to stop TPPKing, because killing with hacks is a numbers game. You aren't out for the thrill of the one kill you're playing the house edge and a game here or there doesn't matter to you.

The other option is that they call you out for a duel in the game using their IB sorc with AutoAim, farcast and instant tele to town when cursor put over them.

It would be a great idea if it was practical, which is the decision that is reached every time this topic comes up. Unfortunately, it inconveniences us a great deal if we spend time in pubs, as we have to keep checking a list of TPPKers anddoesn't truly inconvenience them much.

Best of Luck if you want to try it, but I wouldn't be willing to take the time to harass TPPK script kiddies everywhere they go and I certainly wouldn't want to risk a high level char of mine earning a bounty of items. That's just me though.

That's true aswell... dunno what team to cheer

Tai.
30-05-2008, 22:05
Meh, root for the ideal obviously. If enough people were willing to put in enough time maybe it could do something. I just know that most of us have a limited amount of game time and I personally wouldn't want to spend it all trying to keep track of TPPKers who could probably care less about what I was doing.

I don't want TPPK to waste my time, and chasing them around all day in a fruitless attempt to kill them does that just as well as them cheating and killing your character

Pyratheon
31-05-2008, 00:33
in response to the problem of memorizing them, u can just add them all that u know of to friends, then u know if they join ure game, and can track/hunt them. Id try it if my char was stronger, but its my first hc and only lvl 24. In regards 2 the cursor problem theres another simple solution, use a character that doesn't need to put cursor on them, just in front/ behind, eg. spam with a fb etc. Good luck.

Ilikestuff
31-05-2008, 03:46
just got tppk'd by acc *nab_

was an ice bolt thingy sorc

!! BOUNTY !!

3 terror keys + 3 hate keys

be advised, sorc initially offers help. saying "no" doesnt deter pk

if they hold point systems hunting us, we'll hold something similar versus them!!

Pyratheon
31-05-2008, 13:26
gonna give this a go some time, think ill make another char, not sure what type. Trapsin or smiter maybe, probably end up choosing a sorc. Probably blizzard, as my usual fb is only really good with sks, which i couldnt afford.

LuckyDwarf
31-05-2008, 15:47
Most TPPKers would love the attention you're giving them. Like most phonies and hacks, TPPKers want you to make threads about how much you dislike them and want to get them back; it gives their pointless cheating value and it fills this space inside them, pushing out the guilt and shame average people feel when they do wrong. There is nothing we can do to deter them or make them stop because they're ignorant and irrational. The best metaphor I can think of is to compare it to the same way you'd ask a dog to stop relieving itself on the ground--pointless.

Lucky

dyolf
31-05-2008, 18:16
I think this kind of wanted list, may not only be ineffective for the reasons mentioned already, but counterproductive as well, because they can tell their fellow third grade kids "you know how badass I am, there's even a price set on my ear on that l33t forums.diabloii.net!!! LOL". I'm quite shure, thats not what we want.

Tai.
31-05-2008, 20:43
in response to the problem of memorizing them, u can just add them all that u know of to friends, then u know if they join ure game, and can track/hunt them.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't tell you what game they're in unless it's a mutual friendship. It would allow you to know if they joined your game I guess as you could check you f list to see if the account of the person who just joined was on it but you could in no way hunt them if I'm remembering correctly.

Ilikestuff
02-06-2008, 15:13
well its obvious some people like the idea, some people dont. but the few people that do, well, at least we'll have a few peeps who are willing to give it a shot. and i'm sure some of the tppkers will get a little excited that they got a mention in a thread. though that excitement will no doubt be short lived when they lose their pker and their items

Socialism
02-06-2008, 16:31
Not bashing, just indicating:

* folks TPPK in groups / have multiple cd keys (meaning levelling and gear aren't issues)
* it's more fun to play with friends than randoms
* no point playing online if you're gaming alone

Valar-Wrath
02-06-2008, 17:19
I'm quite sure that Ilikestuff knows what he's getting into.

Let him have his fun and quit posting if you're just going to tell him his idea is stupid.

Socialism
02-06-2008, 17:57
I'm quite sure that Ilikestuff knows what he's getting into.

Let him have his fun and quit posting if you're just going to tell him his idea is stupid.

Who's calling it stupid?

I'm pretty sure half the responders have likely started threads like this way back when - we're just repackaging our shared experiences as advice.

Valar-Wrath
02-06-2008, 21:42
we're just repackaging our shared experiences as advice.

If you want to word it that way.

All you're doing is telling him why it won't work.

LuckyDwarf
03-06-2008, 05:12
All you're doing is telling him why it won't work.

Criticism based on experience, we aren't trying to paint a picture.

Lucky

Baranor
03-06-2008, 11:59
My cookies just got pk-ed by a big fat white polar bear. Catch him, and you'll get ketchup as a bounty.

ZappaFan
03-06-2008, 13:56
No different than if somebody talks about a build they are considering and say something like "I'm going to pump energy" or "I'm going to keep vita at base".

There are tactful ways of pointing out that something won't work very well, and I think people in this thread have done that.

Frankly hunting down tppk'ers, regardless of a bounty or whatever, only plays into their hands. I'm sure most of them would just love to have legit people hunting after them. It's not a level playing field.

If you want to word it that way.

All you're doing is telling him why it won't work.

Ilikestuff
03-06-2008, 15:27
lets not get rowdy, else ima have to hostile you all and spam tele while my holy shock aura eats away at you!! :D

in all seriousness though, i've remembered names of a few tppkers, and now when they enter my game, i go to town, hostile, and continue to play. that way they can only pk, not tppk like a coward. and so far this seems to be working.

why tppk, and not legit pk? because they dont want to die themselves.

simple.

Valar-Wrath
03-06-2008, 17:58
No different than if somebody talks about a build they are considering and say something like "I'm going to pump energy" or "I'm going to keep vita at base".



No, he's set on this idea. He's not contemplating what stats he should boost.

And once again, no one here (except maybe Tai) gave actual advice, they just listed reasons why it won't work, not how he could improve it.

ZappaFan
03-06-2008, 18:19
I didn't say he was contemplating what stats to boost, that was simply an example.

Rather than criticizing other's responses you should probably keep to giving your opinion on the subject at hand. You don't like the way some people have responded but you yourself are doing the very thing you're complaining about.

No, he's set on this idea. He's not contemplating what stats he should boost.

And once again, no one here (except maybe Tai) gave actual advice, they just listed reasons why it won't work, not how he could improve it.

Tai.
03-06-2008, 18:38
You know me Valar. I only destroy, never construct. Why can't you love me as I am?

hobbsc
03-06-2008, 19:56
Why not just play with friends? I lurk around the cesspool of op xbananax and play with the kind folks there. I've not been PK'ed from it yet.

There may be some PKers in the channel, but everyone has been nice so far. I know as soon as I post this, everyone is going to murder me on site... :(

Valar-Wrath
03-06-2008, 20:33
You know me Valar. I only destroy, never construct. Why can't you love me as I am?

Dearest Tai,

You know I love you for who you are, and for who you came from.

-Dad

LuckyDwarf
03-06-2008, 21:15
Valar, perhaps showing the futility of something and having him not do it will be an improvement from doing it and having it be futile? His heart is in the right place though, no doubt about that. And Dad.. hahahahahahaha.

Lucky

Baranor
04-06-2008, 09:53
Tactfull? Tactfull ends at the back of my paw.

The only ones one could hope to collect a bounty for are the legit pk-ers... and those are not the problem.