Can lilith get poisoned?

[Jednowlosy]

I try many different things using PlugY, and I noticed I can't poison uber Lilith with poison nova, even though she has lower resist cast on her (-60% Pres, which should break her 110% immunity). She just doesn't turn green or lose life! Uber meph, having the same 110% resis, on the other hand, does turn green and in the end gets killed by poison. Is this just a PlugY feature? I never tried poison chars on bnet and I don't know.

[Mcwhopper]

I just checked arreat summit and it says she is immune to poison. So I think she can't be poisoned :)

I also read that Uber mephisto should have unbreakable posion and lightning resistances. MMM odd :)

[Jednowlosy]

why unbreakable, arreat says 110, that's not very much.

Dunno about Lilith, well, I have to find a way to test it on bnet, too bad I have no poisoning character..

[Mcwhopper]

Unbreakable, because they get stated as immune for said elements. That should mean it can't be broken or am I wrong?

[Jednowlosy]

Unless there is some hard coded part that makes them specifically immune,their immunity should be possible to break. It's only 110, meaning you need -50% from lower resists or conviction to break it. Lower resis easily reaches 60%.

Ofc conviction won't work on meph unless it's level 21 or higher, and it won't help with poison damage, so it doesn't matter.

The problem is that in PlugY, Lilith simply does not get poisoned, even with her immunity broken. Dunno if it works that way on bnet too.

[ProfessionalBerg]

Are you sure Lilith has only 110% poison resistance? BTW, you need -55% lower resist to break a 110% immunity - the monster's health must be lowered below 100, not to 100.

[Jednowlosy]

That's what arreat summit states. :)

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act5-lilith.shtml

McWhooper: you can see that other monsters with 100+ resists are called "immune" on arreat summit, too. Yet I had no problems killing them with LR+Pnova combo.

Right, it has to be 55%. Still it doesn't matter, since my lower resist curse has -65% or so.

[ProfessionalBerg]

Hmm, that's weird. Perhaps there is some kind of a PLR (poison length reduction) for all monsters, and for Andy it is set to 100%? Kinda like Frenzytaurs and Dolls cannot be frozen or slowed.

[Jednowlosy]

Maybe. Well, I won't make a 20HRs worth of build just to test that :D Thought someone already knows. Aww.

[RTB]

Hmm, that's weird. Perhaps there is some kind of a PLR (poison length reduction) for all monsters, and for Andy it is set to 100%? Kinda like Frenzytaurs and Dolls cannot be frozen or slowed.
Only the ancients can get that. This can be explained by her having Poison Enchanted, like Achmel has. It gives +75% poison res, extra poison dmg on melee hit, a poison 'aura', and a poison nova on death.

[MYK]

Hey RTB, this is a little off topic, but can you offer any specifics on the poison aura from Achmel?

[Jednowlosy]

I don't recall any poison novas when uber Lilith dies so I don't think it's the 'poison enchanted' modifier. So, either arreat summit's info is incorrect, or PlugY has incorrect Poison resistance given to uber Lilith. In such case Poisonmancer can actually own all ubers, although it is time consuming ;)

[PowerSixSixSix]

I thought that the ubers on Battle.net still continued to regenerate life even while poisoned. The rate of regeneration makes any poison damage effectively useless on them from my understanding. The only way I've read that'll stop the ubers' life regeneration is via open wounds.

Uber Mephisto can have his lightning immunity broken. The conviction aura from infinity won't do it as Uber Mephisto has a level 20 conviction aura of his own. A level 21 or higher convinction aura from a paladin will actually remove the immunity.

[ProfessionalBerg]

No, Poison damage does indeed stop any monster regeneration - that is, if the monster can be poisoned. Just like OW, Poison damage provides rapid health degeneration, only it can be resisted or immunified (?).

[Jednowlosy]

I'm in the middle of making a good poisonmancer so we'll soon know ;)

[Insane Wayne]

I don't recall any poison novas when uber Lilith dies so I don't think it's the 'poison enchanted' modifier.
Achmel doesn't emit a death nova either, but he definitely has enhanced poison properties. Can his poison immunity be broken?