Official DIII evidence [Archive] - Diablo: IncGamers Forums

skycing

16-04-2008, 17:33

Diablo 3 is already published for opposition as a sequel at the USPTO.
The same was done for D1, D2, D2LOD, WOW, Burning Crusade, and the Wrath of the Lich King.

The mark has been live since 2005. Blizzard published it for opposition in early 2007 and it is undergoing administrative setbacks (just like so many others).

Starcraft: Ghost's mark is "Dead and Abandoned"

BattleChat is awaiting opposition. I speculate BattleChat 1.0 being deployed in tandem with D3, but I haven't really looked very far into that yet.

mince pies

16-04-2008, 17:54

Nice find, anything that strengthens speculation about DIII, though now it looks like it's becoming less and less like speculation and more a reality :smile:

skycing

16-04-2008, 18:04

Yea there is no better evidence than the legal paper trail.
Trademarks don't require multiple submissions into their database to stay live, so this is the next best thing to Blizzard announcing it.
There are currently 3 different Diablo trademarks and one for Lords of Destruction.
Diablo II: Salvation is Dead, but not abandoned (like Starcraft: Ghost), because the third one covers software and motion pictures.

Bloodedmayhem

16-04-2008, 18:17

Gotta give it to you sky, one nice find!

BK,

Jaquiezz

17-04-2008, 17:31

Source? I'm always highly skeptical of things like these.

BTW, just because things like domain names and such are taken, doesn't mean its going to happen. SC2's domain name was taken before SC1 even was out. They always plan for a sequel, but it doesn't mean it will happen.

skycing

18-04-2008, 02:57

Source? I'm always highly skeptical of things like these.

From the original post...

USPTO

There is nothing to be skeptical about, it is law binding.

skycing

18-04-2008, 15:54

BTW, just because things like domain names and such are taken, doesn't mean its going to happen. SC2's domain name was taken before SC1 even was out. They always plan for a sequel, but it doesn't mean it will happen.

This is irrelevant. Blizzard uses Blizzard.com
I would also like to mention that any claims of there being no Diablo3 are now extraordinary claims.
If you wish to push your idea, you need proof. Sorry, I don't accept rumors.

Elfjes

20-04-2008, 09:26

can you post a link to the trademark?

Victorinox

20-04-2008, 12:24

can you post a link to the trademark?

There is some stuff here. It does show the Diablo trademark, but it being Diablo III or 3 is nowhere mentioned.

http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?SRCH=Y&isSubmitted=true&details=&SELECT=US+Serial+No&TEXT=78770575#

In the name of Zod

22-04-2008, 22:15

http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/art-lead-3d-environment.html

Above is the current job offereing at blizzard. This job begins with the description "Blizzard Entertainment, the developer of Diablo and Diablo II" hint hint. What's interesting to me is some of the requirements:
"The ability to effectively collaborate with game designers and programmers" So do they have the programming and game design done?

Another interesting thing is that the candidate must be "experienced in modeling and [working with] texturing assets for a diverse visual range of environments".

That sounds like D3 to me. So the graphics aren't done, it also notes that there's a need for illustrative artistic skills. Does this mean they know what the graphics should be like but need to start with the illustrations for communication purposes with all the D3 artists.

They've got the premise for the game down it sounds like. Now they've got to work it, build it and test it. In the old days that would mean a 18 month process at minimum, but these day who can tell. :undecided:

Its odd that none of the jobs on Blizz employment page that have the suffix "next-gen mmo" have any mention of Diablo or Diablo 2 in the description.

The job titles that do mention Diablo and Diablo 2 are:

3D Environment Artist
Lead 3D Environment Artist (above)
3D Background Artist
Associate 3D Environment Artist
3D Environment Artist
Senior 3D Environment Artist
3D Level Designer
Lead 3D Environment Artist
Senior 3D Level Designer
Associate 3D Level Designer
Lead 3D Level Designer

All the other positions don't mention Diablo or Diablo 2. Another interesting thing is the position for Assistant Historian.

Turtleism

23-04-2008, 10:03

Another interesting thing is the position for Assistant Historian.

Interesting indeed, this is another good point towards Diablo 3 being created. Mainly due to the fact that Diablo 1 and 2 both used weapons that where at one stage real, cutlass's, short sword's, long bow's and dagger's to name a few.

Perhaps we could be seeing a shift in direction for weapons, perhaps we will be seeing weapons founded in the older asia as we have already recieved a dose of middle ages european weapons. I see a shift towards guns and explosives unlikely, but ninja stars and katana's maybe on the way in.

Victorinox

23-04-2008, 14:41

Perhaps we could be seeing a shift in direction for weapons, perhaps we will be seeing weapons founded in the older asia as we have already recieved a dose of middle ages european weapons. I see a shift towards guns and explosives unlikely, but ninja stars and katana's maybe on the way in.

This just struck me, what if they would place the Diablo universe in a much more contemporary setting? It would be sort of heretic I guess, but the guys from Hellgate London, must have gotten their ideas from somewhere ;)

Gamble

23-04-2008, 15:37

It seems by the job postings that DIII is imminent. While reading through all the "Top Secret" job postings, I found some interesting morsels of information.

Game Physics/Collision Programmer - Next-Gen MMO

In the job description for this position Blizzard is asking for; "applicants should possess superlative math skills and a discerning eye for detail" and "Strong math skills (linear algebra, trig, matrix/quaternion math."

A game with very basic Physics Collision would be a point and click type game.
A game with very advanced Physics Collision would be a FPS with a reactive enviroment.

This tells me that Blizzard is past the idea stage of Diablo III and is looking to start developing the game engine. This step is in conjunction with level and enviroment design but before any content is actually developed.
This also tells me that Blizzard is starting from scratch on a new game. Whatever it is they are working on will not be anything like WOW.

Aranock

24-04-2008, 21:39

Unofficial evidence:http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=653056

for those interested

skycing

27-04-2008, 23:20

You can search their E-commerce for all owners by the name blizzard.
The Diablo mark appears for every game except for one... registered in 2005.

You cannot link to the search results. You need to log your own session.

mouseman

29-04-2008, 05:20

Recruiting a historian doesn't mean that the game will have more historical accurate details. The most important craft of historian is the ability to make something real - to know how people would react, to capture the causalities of history to another context and make it live its own life. It's really more about the big tendencies of history than just details.

I think many games could use a historian lore-wise and especially in game testing. So many games are just so static and have this feeling of being too far-fetched. Movies, too, but they are already using historical advisories much more than games.

The job was about creating lore to all blizzard's worlds and also editing text, organizational skills and more. Historians have to work with immense masses of information which they have to compress, edit and categorize effectively. These are very useful crafts in game development and I'm glad the industry seems to have noticed it (It seems that there is another historian already there, and this is just an assistant's job offer).

And yes, I study history :)

Mestre Crjspim

30-04-2008, 14:41

Commercially, Diablo III would be an absolute success, I have no doubts about that. Some off you have said no matter what, you would buy it immediatly after the release, as I would definitly do. However, a new sequel of this great game has to be something near perfection. The community of Diablo fans is huge, the firts two games were amazing, the expectations are higher than ever, and if I might say, higher than any other videogame to date, the market is filled with great RPG's specially MMO's... Blizzard can't expose the company and the "Diablo" franchise do a mass failiure - in criticism and acceptance in the videogames industry -, if the game's not good enough or has no evolution from the previous experiences. It's no news for any of you that great brands have known rough days due to bad planning, bad game conception or whatever (one game pops to mind: Tomb Raider). I belive that if Diablo III is in the making or will be in the future, they will really gonna take their time creating, producing and releasing it...

BTW, I searched for some gossip or some information on Diablo III and the following link poped in, but notice the date...it's from May 2006, 2 year ago. I really don't know if it has any credibility, so I would appreciate comments.

http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?print=1&article_id=73003&cat_id=699

korialstraz

30-04-2008, 22:33

I'm a bit amazed this hasn't been mentioned yet (as far as I have seen).

The Veiled Prophet is the third book of the Diablo: The Sin War trilogy by Richard A. Knaak. Pocket Books sent a review copy my way, and I was more than obligued to read this last book of the trilogy. The story is fast paced moving constantly from event after event, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. It simply means so many things are going on keeping the suspense of each well-planned series of events, with various points of climax, that keep you craving to know what will happen next once and again.

The Church of the Triune was destroyed and Lilith was defeated by Uldyssian in book two: The Scales of the Serpent. Lilith was thought dead, but it was Inarius who shielded Lilith to appear dead. Inarius had a more evil fate for Lilith than mere death. Inarius casted her into the void to live alone, so terribly alone ... in darkness and hollowness.

The Veiled Prophet continues Uldyssian's journey toward Kehjan City where his goal is to seek the Mage Clans as allies against Inarius and his Cathedral of Light. The book lays the ground for upcoming Diablo games and novels. Throughout the previous books we find out the origin of Sanctuary, the origin of Rathma and his Necromancers, Lilith revealed to be Mephisto's daughter, the origin and purpose of the Worldstone. If you haven't read other Diablo books look no further, you have to pick up Diablo: The Sin War trilogy. It is set 3,000 years in the past before the Darknening of Tristam ... before Diablo 1 the game.So are we getting a prequel?! :scratch:

Mestre Crjspim

01-05-2008, 11:04

A prequel could be the best way to keep Diablo in Diablo III (dicussion is somewhere in another topic)...

erimatbrad

01-05-2008, 15:29

Apparently, according to the owner of diablo3.com, Blizzard has purchased the domain from them, which might lead further plausibility to the cause.

Rushster

01-05-2008, 19:32

The purchase of another Diablo3 name does not mean its coming. Blizzard have been snapping up domains for the past few years for diablo. They even regged diablo4.fr! If you want to know what has been going on then I suggest you check for definitive Diablo 3 coverage on...

http://www.diabloii.net/wiki/Diablo_3

The purchase of another domain is by no means evidence that it is coming any time soon, despite the hype that has been banded around for 2 weeks. Note that it has always been stated that Diablo 3 was in the works if you read the above so another domain purchase has no bearing on that. The only 2 questions that remain still are was development canned a 2nd time and if not when will they announce release?

The domains owned by Blizzard known so far are

Diablo2.fr
Diablo3.eu
Diablo3.es
Diablo3.de
Diablo3.fr
Diablo4.fr
Diablo3.asia
Diabloiii.es
Diabloiii.asia
Diablo3.com

Mestre Crjspim

03-05-2008, 00:40

You're right in some aspects, however Diablo II: LoD leaves a possibility of a sequel... like an "open" ending. I remember that Tyrael said something about "unknown" consequences if the worldstone was destructed, which happened...

HolyOne

16-05-2008, 10:28

well the historian can also come to help out in new character classes, like the type of weapons and styles of fighting.

I'm anxious for it to come out :P

Phazor

21-05-2008, 02:31

Or maybe a historian would study the history of Diablo, since they do have to find a whole new group of people to work on it. Don't want people who don't know Diablo to be making it.

[End of long joke]

But I really do hope that Diablo 3 is the secret project. If we don't hear anything about it by the time WWI and BlizzCon 2008 have ended I will go insane. I also agree that Diablo 3 would be an instant sales boost for Blizzard. People have waited so long and begged for so long that pretty much anyone who has played the Diablo franchise will be crowding stores on the day of its release.

Tenebro

07-06-2008, 03:55

from http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080512.html :

BLIZZCON™ 2008 ANNOUNCED

Blizzard Entertainment® gaming convention returns to Anaheim Convention Center October 10–11

IRVINE, Calif. – May 12, 2008 – – Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. today announced plans for its third BlizzCon™ gaming convention, to be held at the Anaheim Convention Center in Anaheim, California on October 10 and 11. BlizzCon is a celebration of the global player communities surrounding Blizzard Entertainment®'s Warcraft®, StarCraft®, and Diablo® franchises. In response to the demand to accommodate more attendees, this year's event has expanded from two convention halls to three.

Maybe they say that each year... ^^

Mistress Sersi

08-06-2008, 15:27

Flux

12-06-2008, 10:19

SO I have read all these rumors, now is Diablo 3 a go, YES OR NO?

I notice that the forums have changed to include "Diablo 3" in the name. That would be a hint, no?

I run a Mac & that would be a prefect excuse to get me a nice, new 3 Ghz iMac with a 512 video card! ( then I can dual boot & try out some of those niffy PC games!)

It's still just a rumor; we changed the forum titles since we added a Diablo 3 forum since people were interested in talking about the upcoming (eventually_) title. As for upgrading, even if they announce it this month, knowing Bliz there's no way we'd see it before Xmas 2009...ish. You'll have plenty of time to save up for a new computer, or you could just buy one now and then buy another one when D3 actually arrives.

minizx

13-06-2008, 15:35

well heres another good rumour for you according to xfire there will be a new game announced at the wwi. i wonder what it could be :D

http://www.xfire.com/cms/xf_wwi08/

thanks to ig_ at diablofans for the link

Applekid

16-06-2008, 18:14

A Historian in a hierarchical business sense doesn't mean they actually study history... It could also mean that they essentially create a scrapbook or log of progress and presence, or that they take records for what goes on. Let's not get hooked up on denotative misunderstandings, here... After all, it should be official evidence.
-Applekid

UHK Daniel

20-06-2008, 23:00

How is this proof? There is really nothing to move on with.

Think about it. The three prime evils killed, there is no story line to move on with.

dustdog

21-06-2008, 06:49

^There are still other evils. That being said it's probably been mentioned many times, that with the worldstone destroyed they can basically do whatever they want storyline-wise now.

Flux

21-06-2008, 21:59

How is this proof? There is really nothing to move on with.

Think about it. The three prime evils killed, there is no story line to move on with.

As if a little detail like that would slow Blizzard down? If there's money to be made and fan interest, sequels will come. Hell, Hollywood's making Crank 2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1121931/), with Jason Statham returning, and he was deader than dead in the first film.

As for the Diablo mythology, I don't think the brothers can be killed; just sort of dispelled, or weakened for a time by the destruction of their physical forms. Hell, they lived in rocks for a few centuries and came back stronger than ever, and it was all part of their evil scheme.

Besides, the end of D2X was a total cliffhanger, opening the door for many sequel possibilities. With the worldstone destroyed the forces of heaven and hell can enter the human world more easily than ever before, (and vice versa).

SandyVagina

23-06-2008, 20:33

Diablo2.fr
Diablo3.eu
Diablo3.es
Diablo3.de
Diablo3.fr
Diablo4.fr
Diablo3.asia
Diabloiii.es
Diabloiii.asia
Diablo3.com

Just have to add some thoughts on this. Now obviously buying domains doesn't prove anything at all, it would simply be a very stupid move not to do so. However the sheer amount of sites might tell us something, and I say again, it might. My point here is nothing groundbreaking, but as you can see I'm from Norway, meaing i had to check if they own diablo3.no, which they do. Again, this proves nothing, but come on.. Norway? We're like the smallest country in the history of countries. People think Norway is the capital of Sweden ffs! But still, Blizzard owns Diablo3.no.

Personally I'm thinking MMOish. MMO's have a higher demand for more regional websites. I'ts doubtfull that Blizz will make a unique site for every country out there, but who knows? The certainly have the money. It's more likely that Diablo3.no will link to Diablo3.eu or something similar, as we speak it will send you to eu.blizzard.com. I don't really know what I'm talking about, I'm just thinking out loud here, but I can't really come up with a good reason for Blizz to buy Diablo3.no. Pehaps they just want to own it because they can and because it's their name and game. This is reasonable for bigger domains like .com and .net, but again.. Norway?! Don't know if they have bought other smaller domains, but if they do I guess it strengthens this argument. I did check up on Diablo3.se, which is Sweden btw, and someone does own it, it doesn't link to battle.net however.

Yeah, just my thoughts. Now I just can't wait for the WWI. Not too long now! :)

Donsta

26-06-2008, 00:43

What if it's Diablo Ghost???

Vertigo X

26-06-2008, 01:43

How is this proof? There is really nothing to move on with.

Think about it. The three prime evils killed, there is no story line to move on with.
Actually, you never really see the hero(es) bring Baal's stone to the Hell Forge, do you?

Daimoth

26-06-2008, 13:07

I've been playing the Diablo franchise since ~2000. This is very exiting! =D

ColdAsIce

27-06-2008, 14:40

Actually, you never really see the hero(es) bring Baal's stone to the Hell Forge, do you?

Agreed. You can never really know what could happen in Diablo. There is always a possible chance of just one occurance.. and then things shift again. I think Diablo 3 will obviously start its regeneration of a story with "the big man" himself (diablo). The Lord of Terror always makes his way back out of someone doing something there are not supposed to do.. Sort of like D2 storyline. Think about it.