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normannen
13-04-2008, 23:33
hi all

i decided to build a lvl 29 bowazon, but i'm not really sure how i should skill her.

i was thinking:
1 jab
1 ga
1 penetrate
8 dodge
8 avoid
9 cs
10 evade

would that be the best way to go or?

mystified
15-04-2008, 22:34
if you are thinking bow, why not max guide as much as you can? each pts will lower mana cost (omg cost so much :S) and increase dmg.

what gears were you thinking?
if you go upped rogue bow (can't remember req but should be <lv 30 but not 100%) i don't know how much pts you'd want on CS since it will give DS. (but dmg output will be lower on LCS)

also you can't put 10 pts in evade at that level :p

seek further assistance from 'pros' XD

Magi
15-04-2008, 23:14
I'd max GA too.

mystified, Sure the mana cost is small, but I'd wager after a nice duel, even that little cost (with ALLLLLLL those arrows) would add up. ;)

mystified
15-04-2008, 23:17
angelics always help imo, although you'd think ar isn't needed it helps with jab switch (plus dtm..but we really shouldn't get hit to get mana :p)
i guess SoJ is a way to go too...although i don't really fancy it so much.

and yeah, mana is too high. i mean, out of all skills why does guide cost MORE at lower level? this is plain weird!!!

NewForumBloke
15-04-2008, 23:31
Up'd Rogue's gets lvl 29 so you would be safe on that. For the read of your gear you should be thinking about where your going to be getting ias from (especially since you can use ias jewel's). Best bet would prolly be twitch+Death Gloves/Belt. Id check to see if you hit the right bp's but 1.) the calc seems to be down for me... 2.) i cant seem to find a table easily of where they are.

Make sure you get some nice max/ar/life-frw gc's and sc's and youll be dishing out some very nice dmg.

Good helm to look for would be 1 amazon/30 frw/2 sockets/life/mana/resist. Something along those lines (though not all of em, ive seen zons do fine with a 2os 30 frw circ).

-BLoke :smug:

Moritz
15-04-2008, 23:41
max ga

1 jab

if you want 1 lbolt, or just use normal throw

crit for high % with items, aim for somewhere between 56 and 61 %.

if you want get decoy, it will eat one charge or DF here and there or so.


put the rest into d/a/e as you wish.



I posted gear some weeks ago, try search function, should work. possibly was lvl30 zon build but it's kinda similar (only minor stuffs).

normannen
15-04-2008, 23:43
i heard ga would be better to max ^^ so i was thinking the new skilling would be:

1jab
1lightning bolt
20ga
1penetrate
rest devaded between the passive skills avoid evade cs etc

the items i were planning:

circlet 1ama 30frw life adds socket with max dmg jewel 20+
mp 55-60l 3s socket with 3x max dmg jewels 20+
death gloves
death belt
2x soj
sanders
amu 1ama life / mana
5s ashwood bow 3skill ed 4x shael + max dmg jewel 20+
5s ashwood bow 3skill ed 4x shael + nef for bm duels ^^
eth self rep harpon or ceremonial javelin with 10+ias
kite shield 30/20 3s or eth rep kite shield 30/20 2sock socket with shael + max dmg jewel(s) 20+

inventory:
10x 3/xx/3frw scs
30x 3/xx/14-15life scs

rogue bow is not possible, since it get's lvl req 30 when it's upped :)

Zangeif
16-04-2008, 00:34
max ga

1 jab

if you want 1 lbolt, or just use normal throw

crit for high % with items, aim for somewhere between 56 and 61 %.

if you want get decoy, it will eat one charge or DF here and there or so.


put the rest into d/a/e as you wish.



I posted gear some weeks ago, try search function, should work. possibly was lvl30 zon build but it's kinda similar (only minor stuffs).

I agree with this, although I prefer evade since you will usually be moving.

Also, you can't put 20 into GA at level 30

Moritz
16-04-2008, 15:15
I agree with this, although I prefer evade since you will usually be moving.

I think so too but I thought it was preferance, so ...

lvl29 zon will only be able to put max 12 points into GA.

crawlingdeadman
16-04-2008, 16:04
5s ashwood bow 3skill ed 4x shael + nef for bm duels ^^

nef isnt bm

Moritz
16-04-2008, 16:32
nef isnt bm

in europe LLD scene it is. but please no discussion haha


basically if you can: go for 4*shael + nef.
if you can't: go for 4*shael + 20/15 or similar

crawlingdeadman
16-04-2008, 17:38
ah, i'd never heard that. pubs complain about knock back on occasion on melee duelers, but no one smart has ever complained vs a bowazon.

DayDream
17-04-2008, 02:16
Somewhat OT
Would a lld 30 bowzon be considered high tier lld char? Assuming correct items and above average charms.

NewForumBloke
17-04-2008, 06:23
On euro the top lvl usually consists of 29's, on east and i do believe west, we go as far as lvl 30. Only real difference is where and with whom you play with i guess.

DayDream
17-04-2008, 08:04
Okay, let's say I play against some of murder/cdm/you/spiffy's char. Would a zon have a chance? I'd have to imagine the bowzon still having an advantage over the many hdins as it does in mld/hld. Also, naturally a bowazon should be faster as she completely fills with frw/max/ar while most non teleporting chars get half of their inventory filled with frw. Good lld char or bad? my lld fury is going to be on break until I can afford better max/ar/lifers.

Magi
17-04-2008, 13:56
I have seen 8/10ths + bowzons do VERY well vs hammerdins. All things being equal, however, desynch from the hammerdins is still hard to overcome.

crawlingdeadman
17-04-2008, 15:30
we had some 4v4 with two bowazons in the mix and much like HLD, they may have some tough matchups in 1v1, but they rock on teams. both the bowas were pretty good too. i made a lvl 30 bowa and was less than thrilled with her, but that was mainly because i cheaped out on her gear.

Moritz
17-04-2008, 15:43
I used to have a fully decked out 29 zon on euro nl and found her to be very viable.

however I think if you cant afford a good inventory and good gear overall you better make other chars