What do YOU think DIII is going to be about!?

[Bloodedmayhem]

Hey!

Many of you must know by now, the great elly just made a new forum for DIII!

So i thought i would post a nice thread in it :grin:
So what do you think or want DIII to be about? an off cute from DII maybe? Or completely different?

Share it with everyone :innocent:

OT? Rules in the new forum?
I have not asked Elly as yet but im guessing the same old rules that appliy for the other Forums and threads. We dont want complete chaos within the new forum...do we:thumbsup:

BK,

[Crowd Control]

I think they'll finally incorporate an episode of My Little Pony in the story line.

[mince pies]

Diablo, most probably. Just a guess, though.

[ReiperXHC]

I bet it'll be about some legendary heroes saving the world of Sanctuary from the prime evil, Diablo (The Lord of Terror). And there's a chance that he may have his brothers Mephisto (The Lord of Hate), and Baal (The Lord of Destruction).

Just a hunch.

I'd love to see how they do the whole "destruction of the world stone" thingy, and what Tyrael's role in all this will be. (There's always been speculation that he may be evil...that would be sweet.)

I just hope they don't try to do too much with it. Some new features would be nice, but to change it too much would leave me wounded. (In my heart.)

Just my $.02

-Reip

[helvete]

Possibly, the destruction of the worldstone will throw the world of sanctuary into complete chaos, with some dark, slowly unveiling plot involving the prime evils, a few corrupted good guys and more customisable characters.

At least that's what I'm hoping for. I do NOT hope for fuzzy looking graphics like those in WoW.

[korialstraz]

Whatever happens, I want a better storyline. If it's after the worldstone was destroyed or thousands of years before the event in Tristram I would love a good story :azn:

[Davio]

Maybe Izual, the corrupted angel, will play a bigger role.

[self biased]

they could always do the first sin war.

[StAlbion]

Aren't there two lesser Evils still kicking around? I'd assume you'll have to deal with their plot to invade/corrupt/destroy the mortal world.

[Davio]

Prime Evils have a way of getting trapped in soulstones and escaping from them, but it might be hard to do when the soulstones have been destroyed at hellforge.

[Sakura]

I don't think diablo has thrown in the towel yet, and he's a pretty important character too the game ;) However, in what way he will reveal himself this time I'm not sure. However, I do believe that Tyrael will play an important part in DIII because he was forced to destroy the worldstone. An improved version of azurewrath on the horizon? :D

[Bioburg]

ehhh, slashing, whirling, bo-ing, kicking, trapping, smiting, hammering, orbing, fireballing, straving, jabbing, boning, tornado-ing, furying, itamz, runewords, gems, gold, crafting, gambling, trading.

And I hope even better looks, same speed, same players, and good resolution for wide screen laptops :wink3:

Oh man, when it comes out, I'll probably need to get a divorce, quit my study and arrange some sort of monthly payment from the government :grin:

[davidmcc]

ehhh, slashing, whirling, bo-ing, kicking, trapping, smiting, hammering, orbing, fireballing, straving, jabbing, boning, tornado-ing, furying, itamz, runewords, gems, gold, crafting, gambling, trading.

And I hope even better looks, same speed, same players, and good resolution for wide screen laptops :wink3:

Oh man, when it comes out, I'll probably need to get a divorce, quit my study and arrange some sort of monthly payment from the government :grin:
you forgot hacking, scamming and duping ;)

[MrProphet]

...boning...


Yes. There will definitely be boning.

[pancakeman]

I hope I get to fight a corrupted Tyrael.

[Friends Call Me Butch]

If the game exists, I strongly suspect it will be about killing monsters and getting stuff. With which one might kill more monsters. That give you stuff. When you kill them.

[Dreadful]

i'm guessing a prequal, proberly putting the brothers in the soulstones.

[Bioburg]

you forgot hacking, scamming and duping ;)
hahaha :laughing:


Yes. There will definitely be boning.

hahahaha :laughing:

arghhhhh, good morning, nice to wake up like this :jig:

[Davidus]

if its going to be an MMO...

Heaven VS Tyrael's corrupted army of men and both VS Hell

Hell
moving treasure chest aka MOBs

Hell is Diablo who want to manifest again and tons of demons

Heaven
player characers

survivers protecded by angels(ACT4 town style)

Corrupted
player charactrs

people who can't be saved. Tyrael picks them up and made his own army

[SiTro]

Weren't the soulstones of both Mephisto (carried out by player, Act IV, quest 2) and Diablo (shown in Diablo II end cinematic) both destroyed on the Hellforge? I thought according to Diablo lore that banished their spirits to the Black Abyss.

There's no record of what happened to Baal's soulstone. He obtains it from Marius in the end cinematic for Diablo II, and is wearing it around his neck in the opening cinematic for LoD. But he doesn't appear in the end cinematic and I can't remember if you can see it on his graphic in game. So it could be that Baal remains as a Prime Evil, and maybe promotes lesser evils such as Belial to Prime status.

Maybe, if Baal does survive, he could attempt to summon his brothers spirits back from the Abyss. (Or something worse? :undecided:)

Another thought is that I don't know whether the ubers quest is considered canon or not. If not, then part of the story could revolve around Lillith taking more of an active role in crushing the mortal world who vanquished her daughter, Andariel.

[ragnar_ii]

I could be wrong as i haven't seen the game's end cinematic in probably 2 maybe 3 years, but isn't Baals soulstone destroyed in the final cinematic. I swear I remember watching a yellowish soulstone being destroyed. I haven't had the game installed in a long time, maybe I can find a video on youtube.

EDIT: had my colors wrong, I think anyway. its been a while

[Bloodedmayhem]

I must add, the people who have been saying about Baal's soul stone. Yes you are correct, it has not been destroyed. Well if it has they did not show/tell us :D

BK,

[ragnar_ii]

Yeah, your right. I just watched the videos. I must have been thinking about when they show mephistos and diablos stones being broken. So, Baal is still floating around.

Also, breaking the stones wont destroy the evils for ever. Its just their spirit that is banished. Blizzard only has to find a way for Baal to unbanish his brothers and we are all set to go again, as SiTro suggested.

Either way, I'm sure I will enjoy this game taking up a lot of my spare time.

[Zeek]

I think the story will be pretty simple really. The resurrection of Diablo. Then fighting the resulting minions released. Then fighting Diablo himself.

How those pieces play out will be fun to play through. I'm confident that Blizzard can come up with something interesting enough.

[Aranock]

Would like to see one of a couple things:

Play it off the of Sin War - basically a precursor to the game we love.

or

Use those other evil foes that haven't been seen mentioned in the Manuscripts found in diablo 1.

I know i'll get bashed for saying this, but i would like it if they took a step towards to gothicy feel of diablo 1 rather then play off the worldstone end of the world deal.

my 2 cents.
-j

[Foolishpleazure]

Possibly, the destruction of the worldstone will throw the world of sanctuary into complete chaos, with some dark, slowly unveiling plot involving the prime evils, a few corrupted good guys and more customisable characters.

At least that's what I'm hoping for. I do NOT hope for fuzzy looking graphics like those in WoW.



Agreed.Please,for the love of God,dont let it look like WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pancakeman]

Aranock, this is your first post?

I think that is the official longest time between joining and posting in the entire Internets. Unless somehow your post count got zeroed, which would be far less cool.

[sarnsereg]

my guess is when tyreal destroyed the soulstones he got turned and in D3 he'll be the new ultimate evil.(keep in mind i can't remember all the cinematics lol)

[Stevinator]

he can't be more evil or more of a bad *** than diablo or baal. he can be a sweet plot device though.

I would like to see the diablo 3 title take place after diablo 2. If they make a prequel, that's cool, but don't call it diablo 3.

[Nostavar]

I don't expect (nor really need) anything special in the storyline. All I hope is that they stick with the basics that made Diablo 2 so awesome and improve the content, classes, skills, etc. :P

.. Hm. All this Diablo 3 talk makes me nostalgic of this game.

[Thrandir]

Wait a minute.

Tyrael seems to be the only archangel in the Diabloverse interested in helping/protecting humanity...
...and everybody thinks he's (or wants him to be) evil? o_O
Maybe I missed something...

[RubenusPontius]

I know i'll get bashed for saying this, but i would like it if they took a step towards to gothicy feel of diablo 1 rather then play off the worldstone end of the world deal.
-j

I'll vote for that...

[korialstraz]

Wait a minute.

Tyrael seems to be the only archangel in the Diabloverse interested in helping/protecting humanity...
...and everybody thinks he's (or wants him to be) evil? o_O
Maybe I missed something...

I'm not really much into D2 lore, but if the Diablo novels is a good start, then Tyreal (Tyrael?) is not the only archangel that wants to help humanity :thumbsup:

[etspaget]

I'd like to see the destruction of heaven where the prime evils (or new evils) invade heaven. Maybe leave the last level of heaven in tact while the forces of light and dark fight on earth and slowly have the player characters make their way through "corrupted" heaven levels.

[KremBanan]

So what do you think or want DIII to be about?

About Diablo?

[mince pies]

I think they'll finally incorporate an episode of My Little Pony in the story line.

That's going to be their next-gen MMORPG

[Remlin]

Whatever Blizzard does with it, I would like to see another great, balanced game. Hopefully with a 'No PK' switch for those who don't want to live in fear of the sociopaths out there.

[Bloodedmayhem]

Wow, some really good thoughts here!
Keep them coming! :smile:

BK,

[Nazdakka]

Another vote for 'evil Tyrael', possibly accompanied by Izual. Tyrael's actions in asking the player to free Izual and destroying the Worldstone are the two things that really stand out as loose threads from D2 and LOD.

[UGTM]

I always thought of an evil...Deckard Cain.
My only thinking of this is himself being the last of the Horadrim, he seeks power to himself.

Actually, even more than this, if you review the D2 quest assignments you see that all the important quests are given to us by him (destroy the Prime Evils + Andariel and Duriel and also the hellforge quest for destroying Mephisto's Soulstone). I do belive that somehow he is the "Master of Puppets" in D2 and we are exactly "the puppets".
After D2, all 3 of the Prime Evils are defeated. 2 of the Soulstones were destroyied + the Worldstone (if what Tyrael does is succeded that is) => we ( and also Dekard Cain) "won", but i can't really imagine a D3 game without the big D himself.

On another side of the story, there's Tyrael which destroys the Worldstone. Maybe he gets corrupted by it's powers which are already corrupted by Baal => we can expect to see an evil Tyrael, or a "duplicate" one.

[aishilee]

I think they should do something about the cows. i love them. haha i tot they had like a origin/story of how the cow come about.. haha instead it is just of blizzard joke-come-to-life..

Diablo III : The Beef.

[Charlo]

Wait a minute.

Tyrael seems to be the only archangel in the Diabloverse interested in helping/protecting humanity...
...and everybody thinks he's (or wants him to be) evil? o_O
Maybe I missed something...


There's an archangel near the River Of Flame WP that kinda helps you....in some way.

Cant remember his name....Begins With H.

Anyway..

I think your hero should have to face with being corrupted himself/herself.

Since he destroyed diablo + meph soulstones, some shards went into his body (through inhaling or exposed cuts) and every so often he has moments were he turns evil :grin:

[Angel_of_Wrath]

The 'angel' in the RoF was Hadriel. And, as the story goes, it is difficult to toy in the matters of Hell without succumbing to its will. As was the case with Izual, such may be the case with Tyrael.

It obviously has to feature Diablo. There should DEFINITELY be some dark gothic creepiness a la D1 and they should really get Matt Uelmen to do the soundtrack again. It would be cool if they sort of had the D2 classes in the game, like how Blood Raven was supposed to be the D1 rogue and the fake Horazon was supposed to be the D1 wizard. (Corrupted paladin/sorceress, etc)

Perhaps, since Lilith was favoured by Diablo, she could have a hand in helping resurrect him. Belial and Azmodan could be involved trying to stop her, because they see an opportunity to be promoted. Were the soulstones smashed at the hellforge the real stones? Hmm, i have to go watch the movies again to see if Baal's was destroyed. :grin:

(Edit: I only had the D2 dvd so it shows the Mephisto and Diablo stones being smashed at hellforge. One other theory was the soulstones were shards of the Worldstone so, with the Worldstone destroyed, what now? Did a piece of the Worldstone implant into Tyrael and he is fighting not to be overcome by Diablo's will? I love speculation! Also, perhaps it was the angel Inarius that was favoured by Lillith... I can't remember atm)

[oFrostyo]

If I Remember Corretly..the first person who killed diablo was corrupted. So Im Assuming If We Killed Baal That Hero Would Become Corrupted. After Tyreal Destroys The World Stone There Is a Cut Scene "When U Start Game" Showing Youre Body Becoming Possesed. You Come Back Into Reality Now Corrupted And Fight Tyreal. You Crack Him In The Jaw And He Too Has Become Corrupted. Now Youre Playing As Hell's Forces And Invade Heaven With Liliath In Charge And Belial And Azmodan Behind Youre Back With Tyreal.

[Merick]

Whatever Blizzard does with it, I would like to see another great, balanced game. Hopefully with a 'No PK' switch for those who don't want to live in fear of the sociopaths out there.

What's the first balanced game you are thinking of? Diablo is probably the most poorly balanced RPG I've ever played.

[mince pies]

If I Remember Corretly..the first person who killed diablo was corrupted. So Im Assuming If We Killed Baal That Hero Would Become Corrupted.

That's because the hero from DI embedded the soulstone into his forehead. I doubt the hero(es) from DII would be stupid enough to make the same mistake as their predecessor(s). It would also be a major disappointment to people like me who're actually interested in a decent storyline. If they repeated it then it would just be like saying "We're too lazy to be original, so f*** you".

[raishi]

as long as it is dark and creepy with out being resident evil or silent hill esk, have great game play and great story line it could be about my little pony for all I care...the heaven and hell thing seems likely...already covered much of earth and part of hell for d2 so that doesn't leave much left for earth...without repeating...

[korialstraz]

Also, perhaps it was the angel Inarius that was favoured by Lillith... I can't remember atm)

From what I remember from The Sin Wars, Inarius was one of many renegade angels that formed sanctuary along with renegade demons that was sick of the Eternal Strugle between The High Heaven and Burning Hells. Inarius and Lillith became lovers and they got a son (can't remember his true name), that became a student of Trag Oul and the first Necromancer. His new name was Rathma.

Tyreal and the Angaris Council (or something along those lines) was initally going to destroy Sanctuary and the "evil demon spawns" that where half human and half demons, and had potential to become even mightier than the Angels.

Strongest creature to have lived on Sanctuary as far as I know was Uldysian Diomedes who sent all the angels and demons away from Sanctuary, almost followed by his subconcious destroying the world.

Anyway a storyline including some D2 lore would be awesome :wink2:

[Merlin The Wizzard]

Focus on the order of the mages who vanquished the three evils at first (The order of which Deckard Cain is the last member, The he...something thingies).
a) Cain wants to resurrect their old leader, the one who held Baal prisoner and got corrupted.
b) This is succesful, but as a result, some rift grows and evil threatens to pour out, especially now that the worldstone is gone
c) On a quest for knowledge in the old lairs of the three evils the characters find many new clues (this means the tristram cathedral, the Seven tombs and the Durance of HAte)
d) They finally figure out that they have to go into hell to find the final answers. PErhaps save Cain from the corruption first by destroying the leader ... again.
e) They go to several new places (think assassin fortress or the forests of the druids for example) to find answers and a back door to entering hell.
f) In hell they have to vanquish the whole spectrum of evils, culminating in a final fight against Diablo himself. (think Lillith, Andariel, Duriel, Beelzebub, Belial and all sorts of other demons, and finally the three prime evils.

[mince pies]

I don't think they should bring the other two Lesser Evils in (Belial and Azmodan) because the Prime Evils were pretty pathetic in DII (fighting wise) so bringing in Belial & Azmodan into DIII would be even worse because I assume that the Primes would be stronger than the Lessers.

[mince pies]

as long as it is dark and creepy with out being resident evil or silent hill esk, have great game play and great story line it could be about my little pony for all I care...the heaven and hell thing seems likely...already covered much of earth and part of hell for d2 so that doesn't leave much left for earth...without repeating...

How can you say that you want it to have a great storyline then say you couldn't care less whether it was about My Little Pony or not?

[raishi]

well since we killed andy and dury in d2 they need some new low level bosses to beat on...

because blizzard is just that good...:P besides they wouldn't want to pay the royalties to use my little pony...though it could be the new cow level...bwahaha blasting of the evil corrupted ponies...

[Thrandir]

Oh, btw, is there any official canon DiabloII lore on what exactly Trag'Oul is? Where did he come from? What is his ...ah...alignment?

[oFrostyo]

Beat The Game Legit With Items You Find No Hacks No Rushers No High Lvl Killers To Help You The Bosses Are Hard. Try Single PLayer

[Aranock]

I'm a bit rusty on lore, but what happened to the other evils mentioned in Diablo 1... the "Lord of Sin" i think was one....er was that durial? Can't remember! I believe it was refering to the Sin War.

On a side note: If you haven't already, read the new diablo3 info section. Great insights there as far as what the game could possibly be about. (strong allusions to a sin war type of enviornment) Either way, a battle between the heavens and hell, whether continuing the storyline or a prequil to it, both sound great! And i also dig that comment about Baal's soul stone, and what that may lead into.

But i think we'll all agree in saying, somehow, creatively, diablo needs to show his face in that game.

For the love of god, er the devil rather, i hope it's not Anything like wow though........nuff said there. It's already going to be discouraging to see the overturn of wow'ers if D3 is an MMO. =\ I'm hoping that's the initial d3 they shelved

P.S. - In answer to a previous comment, yes this is officially my second post since 2004 heh. Been reading diabloii.net prior to the very first diablo2 trailer. I still remember downloading that in what...98? I originally registered to use the Trading section of the website well after i started playing d2. Guess i never posted!

[Friends Call Me Butch]

Been reading diabloii.net prior to the very first diablo2 trailer. I still remember downloading that in what...98?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--v3YHmiUHk

1997, I think, just a few months after "Diablo" was released. Though if people's exposure to it was on the original "Starcraft" disc, it would have been 1998. Remember when 40 second videos bigger than a postage stamp were too prohibitively large to post on the internet?

[skyjuice]

Blizz can spin a story pretty darn well (based on their track record). Somehow someway they will "spawn" Diablo back in to 3.

It's silly to not have the big red coming in when his the star of the show.

:edit: and reading the above posts in regards to D3 possibly looking like WoW? That would be disappointing coz the cartoony, over the top gfx for WoW just don't work for the diablo universe. And i remember reading in one of blizz's Blizzcast episodes, with metzen mentioning about creating art for the different franchises. You can view it here (http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcast/archive/episode2.xml) plus transcript.

[korialstraz]

Oh, btw, is there any official canon DiabloII lore on what exactly Trag'Oul is? Where did he come from? What is his ...ah...alignment?

As far as I could understand based on the Sin Wars, Trag'Oul is kind of the essence of of Sanctuary. Many look at Necromancers as twisted, evil and dark person when they are really the protector of The Balance. Trag'Oul is described as a dragon like creature. Trag'Oul is definetly a good creature. He kept Sanctuary hidden for a long time, and tried his best to keep it hidden from the sight of the High heavens when they where going to destroy the humans and Sanctuary as well as meeting the Burning Hells in battle.

Also the spells a necromancer have, or more precicely bone teeth and bone spear is refered to as Trag'Ouls teeth and claws.

[RimuZ]

Diablo has always been a role playing game and I really want it to be ROLE PLAYING. Meaning it needs a story. Let's all agree we don't want it to be WoW like though.

What I really love is a war broken world with few havens for players or other innocents. How about this?

After the world stone is destroyed mankind enters some kind of anarchy. The power of the Wordstone has to go somewhere so it shatters all over the world of Sanctuary. Important factions such as Mage factions, Paladin factions, Assasins Guild and renegade Barbarian tribes fighting for the power they where sworn to protect. Outside this we have Necromancers and Druids doing God knows what. This is the main idea of how the game world should be.

The plot... well we need Diablo, defiantly. In Diablo 2 he was just this big bad *** fire boss. I want him to be EVIL. I want him to stretch out his arms and grab the souls of man from the Abyss itself. He and the other demons should act like some kind of Gods or Arch Demons corrupting heroes rather than interfering them selfs. Same goes for the forces of Heaven.

The focus should be on Tyrael and his growing power. He should be mad from the powerss of the Worldstone that he destroyed.

However, I want Diablo to skulk in the shadows. I want him to manipulate everything to his own will. Everything he does should be sick, perverted and purely Evil. You get the name Diablo for a reason. Although Demons are fighting Heaven and they are trying to stop Tyrael, Diablo should have his own agenda.

The player should basicaly be customized. Focus should rely on items. Not sure about skills though :\

[Hawera]

I think your all missing a key person, INARIUS!!!


SPOILER WARNING - VEILED PROPHET!!





He was the "prize" given to Mephisto at the end of The Veiled Prophet, and taken to hell... who knows what they have done to him, but in any case there are 2 lesser evils and Inarius still in HELL!!!

make what you will of this info, its going to be special =)

[Bloodedmayhem]

Oh, btw, is there any official canon DiabloII lore on what exactly Trag'Oul is? Where did he come from? What is his ...ah...alignment?


Trag-oul is the guardian of sanctuary(Diablo World). He is stars. Its really hard to explain but if you read The Sin war trilagy it explains what he is. :grin: In some books he is also said to be the necromancer god (You will understand if you read The Sin War books)

Regards,
BK,

[oodjob]

According to the booklet that came with the game (and site), Trang-Oul is a giant dragon on which the earth sits upon (which Necromancers believe). The Necromancer's Teeth and Bone Spear spells are also called the Teeth of Trang-Oul and the Talon of Trang-Oul respectively.

[Thrandir]

Interesting! I'd known the stuff from the D2 manual, but not much about the Sin War trilogy.

A couple more questions, then.

-Do we know who created Sanctuary?
I had been assuming it was Heaven that created Sanctuary, but now people are saying Heaven itself doesn't really have Sanctuary's best interests (ie. Humanity's) at heart. Did Trag'Oul create Sanctuary?

-Kinda following that, did Trag'Oul then create humans? Does the diabloII mythology even go into that?

I've been trying to figure out who's on humanity's side in all this war. We know who's evil, but who is good? Again, I had been assuming it was heaven, but it looks like Trag'Oul seems to be more loving (or at least more protective) towards people in Sanctuary than Heaven, with the possible exception of Tyrael.

[UGTM]

Sanctuary was created by the angel Inarius, and some other renegades angels and demons.

[korialstraz]

The angels let the humans live, and made a "deal" with the demons (SPOILER: Inarius taken to hell, Mephisto leaving his mark (I think it was Meph), and agreeing to let the humans live without interference)).

[Hawera]

The angels let the humans live, and made a "deal" with the demons (SPOILER: Inarius taken to hell, Mephisto leaving his mark (I think it was Meph), and agreeing to let the humans live without interference)).

That is indeed the case - more spoilers


The Angris council agreed to let Mephisto take Inarius to Hell as his Prize, aslong as he layed his mark on Sanctuary(his blood). When that was done, the edyrem's minds were set back to before strange things happened, and thats where it stops.

[minister667]

Chuck Norris, father of diablo, will take over the world and you have to beat him......or not.

[Aranock]

I think the tally leads to 5 main things unaccounted for:
1. Inarius (see posts above)
2. Azmodan (Lord of Sin)
3. Belial (Lord of Lies)
4. Baal's Soul Stone
5. The World Stone aftermath

(Made a lengthy post on the 2 lesser evils mentioned above if you are interested in reading up)

[aishilee]

yea. i m interested. where is ur post . ?

[sirwhere]

Oh man, when it comes out, I'll probably need to get a divorce, quit my study and arrange some sort of monthly payment from the government :grin:

Sounds pretty much like a 3 month vacation. Start saving those days RIGHT NOW.

[sirwhere]

Corrupted
player charactrs

great idea. players get to choose whether they want to fight for Diablo or against him.

Submit to blizzard NOW

[sirwhere]

I always thought of an evil...Deckard Cain.

Deckard Cain should put be on the "to be erased" character list. He just annoys me with his trivial comments. Heck, he keeps talking about the wonders of the horadric cube, yet he only knows 1 or 2 recipes... geeezzz.. what a useless guy.

[sirwhere]

I'd also like to see players spells and skills hurting players themselves permanently.

I mean... you gotta make the game inconsistently realistic. As in: it's ok to summon an unrealistic meteor from the skies, but it's realistic to have it blast yourself if it lands on top of you.. LOL

[Aranock]

yea. i m interested. where is ur post . ?

Here it is Aishilee: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=652464

[Turtleism]

how about... your character typically starts off in a little home town which oneday is destroyed, you (being the character) run away from the demons chaseing ur *** and deckard cain comes outta no-where and lays down the wrath with his staff. u then follow him beliveing everything he says and doing whatever he wants without knowing the truth, he has sold out humanity inorder for him to become more powerfull.

somewhere along the road u find out who he really is and you turn against him but he escapes, you then try to fight to save humanity and meet up with tyreal and join sides with him.

but only when humanity is just about to win u find out that tyreal is evil and deckard was right, then there is some big shiney movie clip and out comes deckard who helps u fight against tyreal and save everyone :)

how do u like them apples?

[Bloodedmayhem]

I just thought of somthing. What of Lilith? Yes i know you kill her in the game. But she has been banished many times and still finds her way back, let alone her daughter ^_^

Regards,
BK,

[BlackAlien]

I just thought of somthing. What of Lilith? Yes i know you kill her in the game. But she has been banished many times and still finds her way back, let alone her daughter ^_^

Regards,
BK,

Lilith is fallen angel and ex love of angel Inarius

[UGTM]

She's a demoness and not a fallen angel. :smiley:
She's the daughter of Mephisto, IIRC. She was indeed the lover of Inarius, at the creation of Sanctuary.

[Dorfoumous]

how bout a game where you fight off blizzard employees that delay the game further..?
j/k

How bout playing as Diablo?

[korialstraz]

Lillith is as UGTM said a renegade Demon from The Burning Hells, and was also the lover of the renegade Angel Inarius.

I'm 99% sure Lillith is the daughter of Mephisto.

[Mickden Bright]

Lillith is as UGTM said a renegade Demon from The Burning Hells, and was also the lover of the renegade Angel Inarius.

I'm 99% sure Lillith is the daughter of Mephisto.

Yes true, Inarius and Lilith where lovers, and yes Lillith is the daughter Mephisto and the brother of rathma.

This is a really good thread! Somone should ask one of the mods or higher dudes to stick this thread!

[Thrandir]

Wait, who's the brother of Rathma? If you meant Lillith, wouldn't that be 'sister'? And if so, then Rathma is a son of Mephisto!?

[Aranock]

Here is an excerpt on lilith & lucion:

"In the new Diablo novel, The Sin War, it is revealed that Mephisto had two children: a son, Lucion, and a daughter, Lilith."

"Lilith is introduced in the 1.11 patch. She appears in a quest called the Pandemonium event requiring the hero to collect three keys and transmuting them in the Horadric Cube to form a portal to her realm. She is described as the Queen of Succubi and the Matriarch of Demons.

The addition of Lilith has caused some controversy, as she was never mentioned in previous texts (which had only seven Great Evils and named all of them). Many players do not consider her canon. However, Lilith (almost certainly the same character) is a major character of the Sin War trilogy, where she is revealed to be the daughter of Mephisto and sister of Lucion. It is possible that offspring of the Great Evils are not considered to be Great Evils themselves. This presents another problem, as Lilith is described as Andariel's mother."

[korialstraz]

Yes true, Inarius and Lilith where lovers, and yes Lillith is the daughter Mephisto and the brother of rathma.

This is a really good thread! Somone should ask one of the mods or higher dudes to stick this thread!

Lillith is not (according to the Sin Wars novel) the brother of Rathma:shocked:. Rathma is the son of Lillith and Inarius :wink:

[UGTM]

Indeed, Rathma is a first-born of Lilith and Inarius, which was raised by Trag-Oul. This name was given by Trag-Oul IIRC, his birthname was Linarian.

[korialstraz]

I had almost forgoten is birthname, but wasn't it Linarius and not Linarian? :shocked:

[UGTM]

It's Linarian. :smiley:
It was the name Inarius gave him.

[korialstraz]

When you mentioned Linarian I was almost sure it was Linarius lol. I'm glad he changed name to Rathma though. Much more stylish :hide:

[Bloodedmayhem]

That boy got style!!

[mouseman]

It's all so simple. They left clues all over the place in the end of LoD.

The destruction of the worldstone changes the balance of the universe so that the black abyss is opened. The two brothers are returned from the black abyss (where they were banished by the player by smashing the soulstones) (and Tyrael is revealed as a traitor, knowing this all from the start).

Like the end in diablo 1, they planned this as well. Remember that they were originally doing diablo 3 straight after D2, so the story isn't the problem here. They don't have to improvise some lesser evils or a prequel.

It would be so lame to have DIABLO 3 without diablo.

It would also be lame to have a prequel. The player would know the ending from the start and there wouldn't be any real surprises along the way.

[Lanthanide]

I don't think they can seriously do a prequal set immediately before Diablo, however they could easily do one set in the sin war some hundreds of years earlier, or during the time of the first capture of Diablo and his brothers in the stones.

[Bloodedmayhem]

I don't think they can seriously do a prequal set immediately before Diablo, however they could easily do one set in the sin war some hundreds of years earlier, or during the time of the first capture of Diablo and his brothers in the stones.

I hope they do it in the sin war, would be a great story line!

[Mickden Bright]

maybe they will do something about the dark exile?

[PoiZonCraZy]

i heard a rumor that diablo is actually your friend in diablo 3. and you play a flute or something to call him and he serves as backup and kills a whole bunch of things. then he uses his wings to fly away. that's what i heard don't kill the messenger.

[Pwnubis]

i heard that u r decard cain in diablo 3 and some example skillz are the "stay awhile and listen" where u bore deamons to death with long stories, and the "og crip walk" where decard cains childhood of growing up in compton comes out of him

[Drakaan]

More demons, more combat, better graphics the works =P. It might just become another WoW sadly =\. The magic and old world of warcraft was wanted to be seen just as much as this Demon world (diablo) I bet in 3d and everything.

[robzombiesslave]

i heard that u r decard cain in diablo 3 and some example skillz are the "stay awhile and listen" where u bore deamons to death with long stories, and the "og crip walk" where decard cains childhood of growing up in compton comes out of him

Lmao wtf?! Been a while since I laughed at something I read lol.

[Luzt]

What I think might happen, or would be cool. Is when the Worldstone was destroyed it unleashed the Seven Gods to save the earth. When the gods came to earth they were scattered across the world struggling to find each other so they could save the world. All had one godly item with them that when used together could save the earth or destroy it. But a mysterious being is telling you that the gods are actually the bad guys and you need to kill them and collect the seven items so he can bring them together to save the earth. In Act Eight you meet the creator of life and earth, he tells you that the mysterious beings name is Tyrael, a god that has turned evil and you have given him the seven godly items ensuring the destruction of earth. He then says you must kill Tyrael and return the items back to him so he can bring them together and save the earth.

I also think they should make it 3D that would look pretty cool. :thumbsup:

[stillman]

Seven Gods...Oh No! Not again....
It was already resolved that Christanity was the religious lining through the game (from all the holy crosses we see in D1 and D2). So the problem is, if there is Christanity, then there can be no other gods but the one almighty God. One of the ten commandments is that there must only be recognition of the one God.
But of course, D2 was very shrewed and held back from even mentioning God (even though there are crosses in the game), and there are gods and goddesses that grant the pally and amazon magic powers. So what I am still struggling with is...which is it?--Is there the God of the Christain faith or are there a bunch of lesser gods? There can't be both.
Maybe if Blizzard made it clearer who the heros are fighting for (besides "The Light"), there wouldn't be so many extremely mean kids on bnet. Maybe I'm aiming too high.

[stillman]

Ok. Here's an idea that incorperates other ideas I found in this thread.
The hero(s) who killed baal in D2 step through the red portal that Tyreal makes and they unknowingly spend eternity going back in time reapeatedly doing the same quests over and over getting infinitely powerful. It is sort of a paradise for them, as they have become addicted to the power gain. But it is also a hell from which they can never retire from. See, the portal was too close to the corrupted worldstone, and it tinkered with the hero's minds and, at the same time, contorted the dimensions of reality to allow multiple plains to exist (but only for those in the red portal). Whenever the heros finish the last quest, they step though the red portal again, and yet again Tyreal throws the sword at the worlstone and we can see the rippling nova radiating. The portal gets hit with the ripple, and this happens to the heros every time for the rest of eternity. So that takes care of them. Now, the rest of the world is screwed becasue as someone else said, the pieces of the corrupted worldstone fly all over the place in the end-game animation. They get scattered all over the world and corrupt everyone. Tyreal or someone higher up sees that all of the world has become evil.
So Tyreal looks down and (in D3) picks out people who he thinks can save the world. He removes their evil, and they suddenly wake up realizing they are wearing black, evil armor etched with demon worshiping symbols. Tyreal's magic causes this gear to dissolve off them and the players start as naked humans with nothing more than a white rags tied around their waists (and chests for female heros). Tyreal also gives them a safe sanctuary and their choice of weapon from the armories of Heaven. They are now briefly told what they should do by Tyreal and set off to kill everything in the world. The people they are killing are summoner necros, unholy paladins, druids who made themselves undead to live forever (come on, who ever heard of a good werewolf?), and other former D2 heros. Remember, these are the total jerks we saw in D2--paladins dueling, a bunch of greedy mfer sorcs, "heros" who call ppl "noob" all day, barbarian brats, etc. All must be eliminated from the world by the new hero classes.
Keep in mind, D2 did a lot of D1 bashing: the designers burned Tristram, killed everything except the essential Cain, killed off (and corrupted) the warrior hero, and tortured the rogues. Maybe D3 will follow that tradition and spew out all the D2 characters.
As for Lilith, Baal, and others from the expansion, well none of that may matter in D3. It was just an expansion. I'm uncertain, but the D1 expansion didn't have concepts afffecting the core story of D2. They just rolled on with the story starting off with the warrior returning to Tristram, celebrating, then the problems happening from the souldstone in his head. Maybe, then, Blizzard will just say Baal is dead/banished, Ubbers--same deal.
I think Tyreal should remain a good character. In my idea, he looks at the big mess he's made and has to carry the horrible weight of what he did (turning the world evil by shattering the corrupted worldstone). In fact, doesn't Anya say she was surprised that Nithalik did not have the worldstone on his person? That shows us how little the world knows of the true size of the worldstone. So the world has no defense against the debree taht corrupts them. Just because I like Amazons, let's say the zons manage to flee to the arcane sanctuary where the broken lumber of the worldstone didn't land, then they go home to the Amazon Islands. There are no evil amazons there becasue every last amazon left to fight in the first place.
I like the Chuck Noris idea too. Maybe the cow levels were all just one of Cuck Noris' dreams.
Tyreal must make absolutely sure that he has chosen the right heros to kill the corrupted heros. He keeps them in the dark about Diablo, who has become more powerful than ever now that he has the whole world on his side. The heros must learn of Diablo on their own without too much intervention from the archangels. Tyreal and other angels also give them quests and challenges along the way so the heros can prove their worth. The heros start off at lev 0 (because Tyreal memory-wipes them), but whatever build they make for themsevles turns out to be their skill set of their former selves when they were evil. This gives the heros a sense of deja vu, and an edge to help explain how they are learning their skills at such a fast pace. This time though, they follow the path of good, but also have the choice of using some very evil skills. After all, the skills are already embeded in their implicit memory from when they were evil. An example of implicit memory is riding a bicyle. They are sworn to only use their evil skills for some greater good of serving Heaven. However, this causes a complex war to rage on inside their souls. They can choose to not invest in any of their evil skills, but this makes the game much harder.

[Bloodedmayhem]

Nice:thumbup:

Regards,
BK,

[lumpor]

Wait a minute.

Tyrael seems to be the only archangel in the Diabloverse interested in helping/protecting humanity...
...and everybody thinks he's (or wants him to be) evil? o_O
Maybe I missed something...

Yes, that's the thing! Isn't it a bit suspiscous that Tyrael helps mortals while the other angels don't? He's a traitor!

[lumpor]

It would also be lame to have a prequel. The player would know the ending from the start and there wouldn't be any real surprises along the way.

Nope. You'll know what happens AFTER the game, but maybe some untold/forgotten events are seen in a prequel.

edit: Oh right, forgot I already had posted, sorry