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tecnorobo
07-04-2008, 04:27
So I'm thinking I might want to try and build an uber killing necro.
Here are my thoughts

A poison-dagger-curse build

Dunno about sstat/tree points exactly, but I have an idea as to what the build may look like.
fleshripper dagger- (an eth zodded one of these would be great, but then who has one lol)
+200-300% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-50% Target Defense
25% Chance of Crushing Blow
33% Deadly Strike
50% Chance of Open Wounds
Prevent Monster Heal
Slows Target By 20%
Fort or Coh (still dunno which)

umed homunuculus (for skills and faster block rate/resists)

TGods for lt absorb

Umed Guillames face (for added deadly strike, crushing blow)
Maybe a double umed coa simply for resists and dr
An umed rockstopper could be used if i can't afford it

Gore riders (same as above)

Dracs- for life tap/open wounds

No clue on rings/ammys yet (probably a 20dex raven but dunno what else)

I'm also thinking of a beast for morph... but dunno yet.

Skills-

Posion dagger/synergies
Bone armor

Various curses

Anyhow, that's the idea.
Silly? probably
but sounds fun to me atleast :)

Dreadful
07-04-2008, 05:27
if you find a normal fleshripper dagger put an eth rune in it to make hitting ubers easier maybe?

mephiztophelez
07-04-2008, 06:13
i think you may have some trouble with U-Meph and U-Diablo's summons.



Dracs- for life tap/open wounds
surplus to requirements. your a necro, you can just CAST lifetap at will.



I'm also thinking of a beast for morph... but dunno yet.
you will not be able to use poison dagger while morphed

stephan
07-04-2008, 07:21
I don't see the point of Poison Dagger for ubers. It attacks really slow, the damage is low and it doesn't benefit from hitting the target often (the poison duration is way too long for that). On top of that Mephisto is poison immune.

You might as well just use normal attack.

MYK
07-04-2008, 07:53
I don't see the point of Poison Dagger for ubers. It attacks really slow, the damage is low and it doesn't benefit from hitting the target often (the poison duration is way too long for that). On top of that Mephisto is poison immune.

You might as well just use normal attack.

Normal attack doesn't give you any sort of AR booster. :undecided:

I'd love to see a necro melee his way through UT. :grin:

stephan
07-04-2008, 09:06
Well, hmmmmmm. Get demon limb? :grin:

I simply don't see the point of putting 60 points towards a skill and then use it in a place where it barely has any effect at all. If you just only max PD for the AR, I could go along with that, I guess.

DH Amazon
07-04-2008, 11:03
Never tried, but I would go with slow, max resist and absorb route. Not sure if those absorbs heal you or not, at least those normal monsters cant hurt you.
You are not fast, so better survive that 5min per boss.

Fleshripper (19, 35, 58, 99 ias are break points for 13, 12, 11 and 10), so speed 12 or 11 should do. Eth or shael in dagger
Homu shield (15 ias)
Blackhorn (15 ias, 20slow 20% light absorb) or Grishwold helmet (30 ias,cold absorb)
The Rising Sun amu (about 60 fire absorb)
2x Raven (40 dex, ar boost and 40 cold absorb)
Clewclaw gloves (25% slow)
ThunderBelt (20 light absorb)
Guardian Angel (+15 max resist, ar boost for demons)
Goblin boots (25% crush)

20 Poison Dagger (ar boost). You cant leech much, so Decrepify curse. Life tap curse as backup. Not sure which curse works in tristram, attract, dim vision, terror or confuse. You need some private moment with boss. Or maybe use prison/wall to keep you and boss in private chamber. Baal teles, so might be lonely prison at times. What is best curse to keep monster or at least some off your back?

Prebuff with threachery and with 100xantidote and 100xthawning potions.
Resist+life charms to get all resist max after meph conviction (at least this is easy)

Demon limb ar boost is nice addition, not sure it will last whole fight.

edit:
I would go with ias jools in those sockets, quite easy to get max resist (even after conv) using good charms. Guillaume is good helmet too, but maybe better use more 'safe' helmet.

Fleshripper dagger kills even full game baal without any ench, extra cb, so surviving that 2-5min per boss should be main problem. You have all killing power you need in that one tiny dagger. But does necro survive last enough, not likely.

Dreadful
07-04-2008, 13:04
what about a ber rune in the dagger? what would be faster, the sheal, the eth or the ber, extra CB never hurts

MYK
08-04-2008, 00:08
How damage can we get out of a non-eth Fleshripper?

Sixstringer
11-04-2008, 10:55
An interesting idea in the OP, and the idea of absorbs works along with the strengths of dagger--hit 'em, then get out of trouble. I think it could work with the absorb route.


I don't see the point of Poison Dagger for ubers. It attacks really slow, the damage is low and it doesn't benefit from hitting the target often (the poison duration is way too long for that).

The beauty of PD is there's no need to hit the target often. And if you only have to hit once every 15-20 seconds, who cares how fast it is? Dagger allows you to focus on defense while your extended poison duration does your killing for you.

stephan
12-04-2008, 20:38
The beauty of PD is there's no need to hit the target often. And if you only have to hit once every 15-20 seconds, who cares how fast it is? Dagger allows you to focus on defense while your extended poison duration does your killing for you.
The whole point about ubers is hitting the target often. It would take you probably more than an hour to kill the ubers with just PD alone.