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Ok i currently have a orb sorc packing 1450 a orb. I usually make short work of ppl when i hit directly w/ orbs but every few games there are these ppl i could orb all day and it doesn't phase them....why? how do these ppl take so much damn damage. How can i make myself be able to take more damage. i noe its not there resist because ive made short work of my friends and my brother who i noe have 75 in hell. so aggravating to be landing my shots home and not do any damage.
my gear
Fathom
deathswing
maras
arachs
sojx2
frosty
spirit monarch is recommendations to better gear for a cold orb sorc this is the best i could figure.
o and a inven full of cold charms,20 lifers,torch, and anni
AxlStrife
02-04-2008, 05:03
Stacked resists (probably 300+) + 2 Ravenfrosts = low damage.
Is that 1450 per ice bolt from the orb? And are you sweetspotting (admittingly close to impossible if they aren't chilled/frozen)? Don't forget 1/6th penalty for PvP.
mephiztophelez
02-04-2008, 05:29
sounds like you've been 'sorbed.
with enough extra res to counter your cold mastery and some 'sorb, it is possible to completely negate your damage.
i have a pally who can pile on ridiculous amounts of extra res. if i'm also feeling rude, i can use 2x Ravenfrosts, if i'm feeling very rude and add in a snowclash, i can tank fully tricked out blizz sorc's.
herein lies the unfortunate truth about elemental attacks in PvP: they can all be completely negated with the right gear.
Spectrus
02-04-2008, 05:36
Orb is very susceptible to this sort of stuff. The damage is low, and if Cold Mastery isn't getting past stacked resists, then after the pvp penalty and resists, the damage is fairly easily absorbed from regular Cold Absorb or MDR.
For cold spells, it's NOT what you can see of your resists, it's the resists ABOVE 75 that matters. Stacked (as AxlStrife says), they have some 300 resists, which isn't reduced past 75 with Cold Mastery. Orb does its work when Cold Mastery can reduce their resists to like -20 or something.
Orb can do nothing about stacked resists + absorb, except ask kindly that they not use it. And if they don't take it off, don't duel them.
accipite
02-04-2008, 06:05
1450 is pretty low damage. full cold resist + Raven*2 can turn 18k blizzard damage into heal
so the answer is dont dual with those guys, no chance to win
mephiztophelez
02-04-2008, 06:38
full cold resist + Raven*2 can turn 18k blizzard damage into heal
you need some kind of Integer absorb to get healed, ravenfrosts are %sorb.
so a Blackoak or a snowclash or some such thing to get "heal".
DiabloLikesMMA
03-04-2008, 05:59
oh man, what if some fool is packing his Luna, pure sorb w/ 2 Ravens
1450 is pretty low damage.
1450 is PRETTY LOW? lol
where have i been. my orber runs 1.25k and jacks up all types of chars. granted she's a defensive Orb/95es build.
Soepgroente
04-04-2008, 17:13
He doesn't mean for orb, just that blizzard/fireball do a bigger punch per hit and are harder to absorb.
If you do 2 damage 1000 times you need 1 absorb to counter it, if you do 1000 damage twice you need 500 absorb to counter it while the damage over time is equal.
The same is going on with orb vs most other skills (obviously much less extreme) which makes orb relatively easy to absorb.
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