Building poisonmancer

[DaeMoR]

Greetings.

Well I've been levelling my poisonmancer up to 75 in few days and I have huge problem now. What type of gear I should look for, what talents after synergies are filled. Atm I got
20poison nova
20poison dagger
20poison explosion
1preqs for lower resistances and around 11 on LR

But its really hard to improve my damage after this.. This is purely for grind/farm (not MF) just grind character and I dont really see benefit from summoning skills. I got defensive merc from nightmare (holy freeze) to keep things away from me and I'm mostly geared with random +poison/skill items to improve my damage.

I was looking guides but didnt really understood benefits of some of their itemization since it felt like they are pvp geared. :P

Shako, SoJ, Trangoul gloves (got set on mule if needed), Blackbog's Sharp, Skin of vipermagi I believe.

What would be grindwise most best way to start build it? Remember, its not PvP (since im playin SP), also not for MF fast runs. I just want most effective grind build which i can level and grind stuff fast. :P Getting item's are not really problem since i love farming bosses but runes seem to hate me so no runewords are possible.

I just read through that lower poison resistance thread and item -resistance makes poison last longer, but does it just spread poison damage to that time or increase dmg by that time? ie 5800psn 2sec to 4sec deals same or 11600damage? :) (Or did i get whole thread all wrong).

[NumtyDoo]

if you don't want to go summons but waant increased damage, you could always go with 1 point in revives and max CE.

-poison resists makes a huge difference, sacrifice a few +skills if you need to.

[Mad Mantis]

I just read through that lower poison resistance thread and item -resistance makes poison last longer, but does it just spread poison damage to that time or increase dmg by that time?

It increases the damage by that time. So the more -%Res the better.

[onderduiker]

I just read through that lower poison resistance thread and item -resistance makes poison last longer, but does it just spread poison damage to that time or increase dmg by that time? ie 5800psn 2sec to 4sec deals same or 11600damage?
Lower Resist applies Poison Resist -%, decreasing resistance to poison damage rate (i.e. damage per second); -% to Enemy Poison Resistance applies both PR -% and Poison Length Reduced by -% i.e. increased poison length. Since all monsters in the game have PLR 0% (with only the possible exception of the Ancients, depending on the affixes that spawn on their magic equipment), -% EPR will increase poison length by the displayed percentage, regardless of PR %, by an absolute maximum of 100% i.e. -100+% EPR always doubles poison length (but no more).

When -100% EPR is applied to 5,800 poison damage over 2 seconds against PR 0%, it doubles both poison damage rate and length ((100 - (0 - 100))/100 = x 2), resulting in 23,200 (5800 x 2 x 2) poison damage over 4 (2 x 2) seconds; when it is applied to 5,800 poison damage over 2 seconds against PR 50%, it increases poison damage rate by 50% ((100 - (50 - 100))/100 = x 1.5) but still increases poison length by 100% ((100 - (0 - 100))/100 = x 2), resulting in 17,400 (5800 x 1.5 x 2) poison damage over 4 (2 x 2) seconds.

[DaeMoR]

Ah, thanks onderduiker. Language which i can understand, math. About itemwise which I should look for? I've been trying to farm Mara for myself (using Atma to guide), but after Mara which i should look for.. Got Homunculus few days ago but It doesnt seem that great if i look pure dmg. =P

I've been thinking this kind of setup:
Helm: Harlequins Crest
Armor: Trang Oul's Scales
Shield: Trang-Oul's Wing
Gloves: Trang-Oul's Claws
Boots: Silkweave
Wand: Death's Web
Belt: Arachnid (hopefully, been trying to farm it long time already...)
Neck: Mara
Rings: 2x SoJ

I have most of this gear already but some of it is still on 'farm' status so if you see something which can be done better, please say so I dont farm something which isnt top notch =P

This would be my 'end gear'. Like I said, runes really hate me so getting runeword is most likely not possible, but even so please say if something is better so I might try farm it.

Quick Question: Does RRM modify my character/any items so it will be deleted if i try play Open Battlenet? As I've been using it but i'm afraid to join my friends game if my character get wiped.

[okiimatsu]

Gvandale's poison / summon hybrid is a great guide, and has the majority of its focus on poison since that's what you like. it addresses all the gear you would ever want.
the items you listed were found by you soloing on single player in just a matter of a few days? or did you previously obtain some of the items? It took me two months just to find two of the items you listed and achieve lvl 86 in my single player campaign. bravo.

[DaeMoR]

Item's whats there are part of my collection over years (my ultimate goal is to collect every unique and set item ingame) which i'm missing around 20ish set items and elite uniques mostly :)

But it took about 4days to level my poisonmancer ~75lvl, p8 ofcourse. I was actually suprised that I could farm pit on hell at level 61 (p1) but slowly started raise player# and gained 58-75 in 1day or so.

*added later* my playtimes are usually few days pretty hardcore playing (8-16hours per day) then few days break and do other stuff, or 'casually' play low level character because I hate to reset maps.. as it takes hours just to farm decent map seed which can be done less than few minutes without teleport up to boss, kill it and s&e, repeat... :P

[handofnaz]

Fantastic selection of items there, DaeMoR. About your question, I really enjoy using full Trang's on poisonmancers. And I mean I really enjoy it, to the point that I MF with it. *ahem*

Trang's: no muss or fuss over gear changes, plenty of resists, mana, 25% DR, and it allows you to move around at warp speed. Mara's should take you close to max resists if you aren't already there, and the rest of your gear (boots, rings) is pretty much perfect. And I mean, you have a Death's Web. You could probably wear that and a cracked sash and still own the Pits.

Seriously though, in reference to your endgame gear, I'd switch out Arach's for Trang's Girth and wear maybe Skin of the Vipermagi or something similar for armour instead. As you said, you won't be needing the + to summons anyway. The 40% FRW from Trang's Scales is very hard to let go of once you get used to it, though.

Edit:

I hate to reset maps..

I know what you mean. I have an Orb sorc parked in Act 3 with the waypoint right next to the stairs down to Mephisto, and every time I play her, there's an overwhelming fear of accidentally selecting the wrong difficulty and messing up my perfect map.

[MarShenk]

Ah, thanks onderduiker. Language which i can understand, math. About itemwise which I should look for? I've been trying to farm Mara for myself (using Atma to guide), but after Mara which i should look for.. Got Homunculus few days ago but It doesnt seem that great if i look pure dmg. =P

I've been thinking this kind of setup:
Helm: Harlequins Crest
Armor: Trang Oul's Scales
Shield: Trang-Oul's Wing
Gloves: Trang-Oul's Claws
Boots: Silkweave
Wand: Death's Web
Belt: Arachnid (hopefully, been trying to farm it long time already...)
Neck: Mara
Rings: 2x SoJ

I have most of this gear already but some of it is still on 'farm' status so if you see something which can be done better, please say so I dont farm something which isnt top notch =P

This would be my 'end gear'. Like I said, runes really hate me so getting runeword is most likely not possible, but even so please say if something is better so I might try farm it.

Quick Question: Does RRM modify my character/any items so it will be deleted if i try play Open Battlenet? As I've been using it but i'm afraid to join my friends game if my character get wiped.


Yeah pvm poisonmancer is a good buid, capable of easily bringing down packs of monsters quickly.
1 pt LR works wonders but in hell there you may encounter a few difficulties with the immunes which is why, with your spare points, people tend to charge up summons/revives, although you do not want to do that route.
Considering you will have a lot of +pnb skills and should you have spare points CE is a real good pvm skill 2. :thumbsup:

With your gear setup, 3 piece trangs gives you good bonuses but it might be worth replacing the armor with the belt, and using eni or bramble (for extra dmg). Use a few 5/-5 rbfs in your equipment. I find marrows or waterwalks better bonuses for your necro than weaves.

[DaeMoR]

Actually I was going to use Vipermagi instead of Scales and use Trang Belt and for CE & LR, i started put my points into CE (gonna max it as its range will get better, less casts to clear areas :P) and LR is nicely at -60 so i wont be getting more points on it, found 1 rainbow jewel which lowers resists -5 so with 3set bonus trangoul offhand and Deaths Web I should be easily on -100% PR, just trying get as much as from gear (more rainbows and socket my gear with them).

Yeah, I dont like summons.. Got already skelemancer sittin at 81level and It's not that i dont like it, it just doesnt have that sense of doing things myself =P