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Bortaz
29-03-2008, 08:42
What is wrong with people? (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342329,00.html)


Lawyer: Woman Forced to Remove Nipple Rings at Airport

Thursday, March 27, 2008

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March 27: Mandi Hamlin, right, demonstrates what she was asked to do by the TSA during a news conference in L.A. with her attorney.

LOS ANGELES — A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation.

"I wouldn't wish this experience upon anyone," Mandi Hamlin said at a news conference. "My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way."

Hamlin, 37, said she was trying to board a flight from Lubbock to Dallas on Feb. 24 when she was scanned by a Transportation Security Administration agent after passing through a larger metal detector without problems.

The female TSA agent used a handheld detector that beeped when it passed in front of Hamlin's chest, the Dallas-area resident said.

Hamlin said she told the woman she was wearing nipple piercings. The women then called over her male colleagues, one of whom said she would have to remove the jewelry, Hamlin said.

Hamlin said she could not remove them and asked whether she could instead display her pierced breasts in private to the female agent. But several other male officers told her she could not board her flight until the jewelry was out, she said.

She was taken behind a curtain and managed to remove one bar-shaped piercing but had trouble with the second, a ring.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Hamlin's attorney, Gloria Allred, reading from a letter she sent Thursday to the director of the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties.

Hamlin said she heard male TSA agents snickering as she took out the ring. She was scanned again and was allowed to board even though she still was wearing a belly button ring.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Allred said in the letter.

Hamlin filed a complaint, but the TSA's customer service manager at the Lubbock airport concluded the screening was handled properly, Allred said.

Allred said she might consider legal action if the TSA does not apologize.

On its Web site, the TSA warns that passengers "may be additionally screened because of hidden items such as body piercings, which alarmed the metal detector."

"If you are selected for additional screening, you may ask to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search," the site says.

Hamlin would have accepted a "pat-down" had it been offered, Allred said.

Hamlin was publicly humiliated and has "undergone an enormous amount of physical pain to have the nipple rings reinserted" because of scar tissue, Allred said.

"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary," Allred wrote. "The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

TSA spokesman Dwayne Baird said he was unaware of the incident. There is no specific TSA policy on dealing with body piercings, he said, "as long as it doesn't sound the alarms."

If an alarm does sound, "until that is resolved, we're not going to let them go through the checkpoint, no matter what they're wearing or where they're wearing it."

People routinely pass through security wearing wedding rings without problems, and it might take a larger bit of metal to trigger an alarm, Baird said.

Johnny
29-03-2008, 08:59
Bigger than a wedding ring?

Now this woman I want to meet.

crawlingdeadman
29-03-2008, 14:00
i just dont get it. it didnt set the big one off so why'd they go to the hand held one in the first place?

MixedVariety
29-03-2008, 14:33
Obviously, those innocent-looking rings could have been assembled later, in the airplane lavatory, to produce an Uzi.

Johnny
29-03-2008, 14:37
But atleast you're keeping your freedoms safe from being opressed by those evil evil islamists.

buttershug
29-03-2008, 14:59
C'mon people she could have had a wardrobe malfunction with those things.

razen
29-03-2008, 18:37
i agree... they need to stop hiring 5 years old to handle airport security.

apology? not only would i ask for apology, but i would sue the crap out of TSA. that offended civil liberty in like every way possible. this country is not at war. there are no martial law implemented. (p.s. war on TERORISM is a slogan, not an actual war. war on IRAQ is imprialism, not a war. don't argue me on these) why the hell are civil liberties suspended?

has TSA never heard of roosevelt speech? there is nothing to fear except fear itself.

this country was founded based on the all important bill of rights. that part was so important that without it, we might still be a state of england right now (or canada2, i dunno) has the TSA/BUSH not taken any american history course? i know bush average a c- in freshman and sophomore year... maybe that's the problem? (since ameican history is usually lower level courses and if he is failing those... maybe he is not fit to run a country?)

kobold
29-03-2008, 18:39
war on IRAQ is imprialism, not a war. don't argue me on these)

So, is this to make yourself feel warm and fuzzy by avoiding the term war?

:point:

BobCox
29-03-2008, 19:05
I'm guessing you never saw the right scenes in The Pink Panther and Austin Powers movies

llad12
29-03-2008, 19:06
i agree... they need to stop hiring 5 years old to handle airport security.

apology? not only would i ask for apology, but i would sue the crap out of TSA. that offended civil liberty in like every way possible. this country is not at war. there are no martial law implemented. (p.s. war on TERORISM is a slogan, not an actual war. war on IRAQ is imprialism, not a war. don't argue me on these) why the hell are civil liberties suspended?

America's fading republic is subservient to insidious militarism and hubris. Our freedoms and liberties are being replaced with propaganda, war, and the myth of the American soldier.

SQUATMAN
29-03-2008, 19:07
When I first saw the thread I thought Borty was checking nipples. You never know she could have had a hand grenade hanging from those rings.
:laugh:

razen
29-03-2008, 20:14
So, is this to make yourself feel warm and fuzzy by avoiding the term war?

:point:

you voting for mccain? if not... you clearly don't understand obama/hillary

(so what i am saying is... you are wrong either way)

(during the british gulag of suppression of kenya, they fought kenyans with pitch forks using airplanes and machine guns. they call that a war too. so what i am saying is... no iraq is not a war. its a massacre. 4k us soldies? so what. tens of thousands iraqi's died already and we dun give a shat natz. seriously, republicans misjudges the situation, go fight in a "war" they do not understand, and then suspend our civil liberties. does that make sense to you? or is the woman with nipple rings al quaeda? i dunno... you tell me?)

th5418
29-03-2008, 20:20
Obviously, those innocent-looking rings could have been assembled later, in the airplane lavatory, to produce an Uzi.

Oh man, you are awesome. :point:

kobold
29-03-2008, 20:51
you voting for mccain? if not... you clearly don't understand obama/hillary
Nope, not voting for mccain, obama, or hillary. Nor will I be voting for Harper or Dion. Hopefully I've left enough bread crumbs for you to figure it out.


(so what i am saying is... you are wrong either way) Well, BobCox's comment made me wonder if I missed an attempt at humour. Otherwise, nope, can't see that I am.


(during the british gulag of suppression of kenya, they fought kenyans with pitch forks using airplanes and machine guns. they call that a war too. Bully for them. Although I will thank you for the reference, as it is something that I would like to read up on.

so what i am saying is... no iraq is not a war. its a massacre. 4k us soldies? so what. tens of thousands iraqi's died already and we dun give a shat natz. seriously, republicans misjudges the situation, go fight in a "war" they do not understand, and then suspend our civil liberties. does that make sense to you? I've typically been very careful to stay out of the whole sabre rattling argument. In a lot of ways, I quite frankly don't feel qualified to take part. I tend to read more of what is said than contribute to the mire.

or is the woman with nipple rings al quaeda? i dunno... you tell me?) I'd have to inspect said nipples for myself before giving you a solid answer on that one. :wink3:

I know where you are going with what you said. There is even merit for taking that position. There is also (I think) sufficient evidence to be able to use the term "war" when describing what has happened in Iraq (hint: look up the definition). I was simply picking up on the "don't argue with me on these" comment that you made. I found it funny, and had to argue with you because of it.

BobCox
29-03-2008, 21:06
Where the hell are you quoteing me from? No link and it's not in this thread.

kobold
29-03-2008, 21:09
Where the hell are you quoteing me from? No link and it's not in this thread.


I'm guessing you never saw the right scenes in The Pink Panther and Austin Powers movies

There weren't that many posts to sort through. :wink:

BobCox
29-03-2008, 21:43
I thought you were referring the quoteed bit as being from me, OK I kind of get it now.
I was referring to the dagger Boobs from the Oktoberfest and the Sex-bot scenes BTW.

kobold
29-03-2008, 21:50
I thought you were referring the quoteed bit as being from me, OK I kind of get it now.
I was referring to the dagger Boobs from the Oktoberfest and the Sex-bot scenes BTW.


Ahh.

mmmmm.... fem-bots...

BobCox
29-03-2008, 23:41
I wanna be the TSA guy in charge of nipple checks.

ModeratelyConfused
29-03-2008, 23:50
Did you see her picture?

BobCox
30-03-2008, 00:59
But it did not show Nipplage

DarkMasterX
30-03-2008, 11:05
I hate airports so very much.

kobold
30-03-2008, 12:06
Did you see her picture?

No. Is she a two-bagger?

ModeratelyConfused
30-03-2008, 13:58
No. Is she a two-bagger?

At least .

SQUATMAN
30-03-2008, 14:34
Boy MC *scary tar*.

ModeratelyConfused
30-03-2008, 15:37
You should see the full sized version.

*Shudder*