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Swirl
18-03-2008, 13:14
:cool:Hey i've started to play again (Played 9 months ago) and got a decent mfer (Full Tals, random gloves and boots aswell as rings) and pretty good for 2 weeks of playing, she's level 85, same as merc.

Just a few questions...
1) I've started to move away from Nm and on to hell, and i can mf Pits, Countess and Meouselem (Spelling?) but whenever i try andy i kill, but at start my merc always dies. He is equiped with Giant Skull, Leviathon (Woot bargain), and a crappy dmg 15 med insight. Does anyone have any suggestions as to him not being killed every andy run and future hell runs?

2) I am thinking of building a standard Hammerdin Mfer (Already got shako), how much would this cost alround (Low Gear- West Sc ladder). Is it worth it, are standard Hammerdin mfers godly for Hell Meph Runs?

3) has anyone got any efficent ways of making the buck? I hope to get Enigma and or another piece of the hammerdin soon. I always thought rushing, but there are too many scammers out there, Cows are pretty decent for me, scavenging all the items. Although mf has to be the best can anyone tell me the wicked spots? ( Apart from pits, Meouselem and blah)

4) I was also thinking of making a nice Summon/Poison Necro (Which the poison highly reduces the monsters health and minions finish off), would this be good at mfing?

Sorry for all my grammer errors :cool:

theheft
18-03-2008, 15:40
On point 4 I would just go with a pure poison nec, as your minions will be too weak

Swirl
19-03-2008, 11:38
Anyone going to answer?

stfrn
19-03-2008, 14:39
Hell andy is pretty stury, a little too tough to MF with any speed. Better to move on to hell Meph if you want to get lots of items, or go back to NM if you want things faster. If you can teleport fast you can go for keys, the countess is a very easy target.

You don't need a hammerdin, some people swear by them(or just at them). You might as well make one if you want to try it out.

LorveN
19-03-2008, 15:22
1) You need to check out WHY your merc dies. Does he die from poison? If so, get more poison res.
Does he die by physical hits from Andy? Then it's trickier, getting him more %lifesteal and faster attack might help.

2) There's no reason why you should make a hammerdin if you want to run hell meph. A meteor/frozen orb sorc will be just as good, and you will also have teleport. The hammerdin will be waaaaaaay slower unless you get an enigma armor, and that will cost you a rough 2 hr's.
The sorc skill layout can be found in the guide sticky in the sorc forum.

3)
Killing more monsters = more drops = higher chance of finding something good. Luck combined with knowing what items that have a value is the best way.
Keep in mind that items that look bad can have a value to the right person. I especially suggest keeping track of what low-level duellers look for, because that's items that most people throw away without knowing the right person would give you lots and lots for it.
Kill whatever you can, with a hammerdin, try diaruns.

4) Those are pretty good at mfing. They'll never be as fast as a good hammerdin/javazon/sorc, but there's nothing wrong with them. You can make them pretty effective without using virtually any gear.

Uncle_Mike
20-03-2008, 02:35
There is a guide about building wealth in the ***Newcomer Forum Stickied Threads*** in this very forum a few posts above :smiley:

Give it a try.