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Whats your experience on a fury pvp druid build?
- good or bad
Thanks
thinking of ditching my fury and jumping to a hammerdin.
superjayson
20-02-2008, 01:50
fury druids are fun.
going to join the bandwagon ? thats okay.. i guess. as long as you dont put the word hammer in your name like 97% of the rest of b.net.
BardFaust
20-02-2008, 03:05
Fury druids are insane amounts of fun and can own 99.8% of hdins. Fury v.s. fury duels are awsome dueling other melee chars is fun as well. Plus you can always go fury/rabies but I like my pure fury if you make one good they can stand up great even in pubs. Really come on a hdin?? **yawn**
Verashiden
20-02-2008, 09:58
^_^ They're fun and can their own extremely well. You'll learn to hate Necros though >.>.
xxxkillerxxx
20-02-2008, 11:23
Bad. Very. No, killing idiots, newbs and unprepared players doesn't mean anything.
Summerfun
20-02-2008, 14:09
Fury Rabies is a great build, but its not a build that you just make like a fire sorceress.
You actually have to be in love with the fury/Rabies sub Druid class!:embarassed:
If you happen to fall in love with the druid, im sure you will spend the rest of your d2 playing time, trying to make that druid perfect! rebuilding just to save a few stat points, getting better gear, duelling etc. etc.
If you dont get what i mean, take a look at Kiba :kiss:
cookie_monster
20-02-2008, 16:59
Fury/rabies is very fun. Rabies can kill VERY fast mostle cuz people dont stack psn res as much as light/cold/fire.
i have very good experience with my fury rabies hybrid. still my favorite char for pvp.
it took me quite a while to get the hang of it, and thats also a big part of what made and makes it so fun.
and ditching a wolfie for a hammerdin... :cry:
actually i need it for farming and rushing also... =) well i have both so i can play both at the same time and pvp with myself haha j/j
DayDream
21-02-2008, 05:57
Bad but fun.
Bad and not fun if you hate dying.
Bad but fun.
Bad and not fun if you hate dying.
Agreed.
People on this forum have always seemed to think Fury Druids are a lot better than they actually are.
xxxkillerxxx
21-02-2008, 15:29
Agreed.
People on this forum have always seemed to think Fury Druids are a lot better than they actually are.
People have different views on good thats all. Foh is good too, in fact it's very good and much better than shapers but once people are prepared they aren't that effective anymore. I guess alot of people aren't talking about serious 1v1 duels vs good players when they compare builds.
Summerfun
21-02-2008, 15:40
A Infinity nova sorc can allso be good in pubs, but would be humiliated 100% of the times in any serious duells.
Many of my chars are build only to duell pubs!
And then i have a couple of "real" duell chars
Verashiden
21-02-2008, 20:26
So... now we have to have league dueling in mind when we say a build can hold its own? That's silly. How many "gosu" duelers are you going to find in pubs (which most people play)?
A build "holding it's own" in a pub does not make it great.
A build dominating a pub 1v7 is probably pretty good.
You can use pubs as a gauge of your character's effectiveness, but you have to keep in mind that many of the dueler's you are facing are completely worthless. If your character is often losing to the best player in the pub, it's not a good build (or you aren't playing it well).
superjayson
22-02-2008, 16:32
^^ pleasee lets not do this stupid argument.
a fury druid isnt as good as people make them out to be on here, but they certainly arent as bad as many others claim as well.
xxxkillerxxx
22-02-2008, 16:42
So... now we have to have league dueling in mind when we say a build can hold its own? That's silly. How many "gosu" duelers are you going to find in pubs (which most people play)?
So vs what can shaper hold it's own? Assuming equal competence they lose to all major builds in 1v1. Jumping someone in pubs doesn't mean ****. Period.
I have yet to meet a good one.
The lack of teleport as melee char makes them vulnerable against ranged attacks so much, and close combat skills like ww and smiter are still superoir to fury I find.
I dont say it's pure trash but good people will not lose to shapers in my opinion.
cookie_monster
22-02-2008, 18:39
u can get smiters down. sure if the use holy freeze ur in trouble. but dont forget the high life u can get on them (Highest in game??)use rabies to get the life down to 1/2-1/3 run a bit then switch to fury zappzappzapp dead.
^^ pleasee lets not do this stupid argument.
a fury druid isnt as good as people make them out to be on here, but they certainly arent as bad as many others claim as well.
You took the words right out of my mouth errr... should i say "fangs"?!:thumbsup: Sure some boast or are a little to eccentric (woof growl awrooo.) about the cuddly furry dr00ds but most of the veteran druids are just chill and laid back fellows that dont really care about winning all the time.
So vs what can shaper hold it's own? Assuming equal competence they lose to all major builds in 1v1. Jumping someone in pubs doesn't mean ****. Period.
:cloud9:
I have yet to meet a good one.
The lack of teleport as melee char makes them vulnerable against ranged attacks so much, and close combat skills like ww and smiter are still superoir to fury I find.
I dont say it's pure trash but good people will not lose to shapers in my opinion.
Define a good player. Oh no wait ill give the answer.
"A player who does not die/lose to a Shapeshift Druid in any shape or form at any given time.
Never
Ever
Never
Ever
Never
etc... (see infinite recursion)
The only way a Shapshift Druid has a chance to -"Win vs Competent Duelers"- is to give said Competent Opponents a severe flea & tick infestation. The only way to counter it is to buy OFF Repelant from Akara."
~Kiba
So vs what can shaper hold it's own? Assuming equal competence they lose to all major builds in 1v1. Jumping someone in pubs doesn't mean ****. Period.
What do you have against shapers and what do you consider major builds? I'll admit shapers aren't the best when dealing with multiple targets but 1v1 is a different story. Yes they lack mobility (damn sorcs :wink3:), and 9/10 you'll probably loose to smiters. But they're really not as bad as you make them out to be and if you play east nl I can show you what a decently geared ss druid can do. :thumbsup:
jesterlolz
22-02-2008, 22:01
A Infinity nova sorc can allso be good in pubs, but would be humiliated 100% of the times in any serious duells.
Many of my chars are build only to duell pubs!
And then i have a couple of "real" duell chars
HEY!!! Infinity nova sorcs work fairly well, even in private games. You just have to also have a non-infinity switch, and maxed lightning, and the rest of your points into other lightning synergies.
So pretty much a light sorc with an infinity switch :grin:.
Verashiden
22-02-2008, 22:22
I like loading my Wolf up with FRW and Desynching :). It's like an 8k life ninja O_o.
And Fury/Rabies is sexy ^_^.
The only way a Shapshift Druid has a chance to -"Win vs Competent Duelers"- is to give said Competent Opponents a severe flea & tick infestation. The only way to counter it is to buy OFF Repelant from Akara."
The way to counter it is to not get hit.
The way to counter it is to not get hit.
Cant dodge a flea jump. They have auto aim from two screens away.
But certain characters can only dodge fury for so long before they have to get in rang to hit. BvC and elemental druids are good examples.
I like loading my Wolf up with FRW and Desynching :). It's like an 8k life ninja O_o.
And Fury/Rabies is sexy ^_^.
Hahaha, sounds like fun. How much frw do you need to desynch as a wolf.
callmejay
22-02-2008, 23:41
seem to me like people are basing their opinions from dueling random wolves.
my f/r for example has 105 frw with normal setup and packs 9700+life without bo.
so whats a competent dueler?hdin,smiter etc etc...go make a real char ^_^
i know that if i duel a sorc..either es or not,i can catch her.
hammerdins arent all that great,and there a way of dealing with a desynch hdin as well
theres very few chars that a WELL made fury or hybrid cant handle
and a necro is the only one that comes to mind,and if hes gm(no bone prison)its fair game.
a f/r doesnt need to hit you..to kill you.
zombies are wonderful for that purpose
AnimageCGF
22-02-2008, 23:42
Dueling with a SS druid is more about skill as the user than the build itself IMO.
Saying they're bad, just proves that you don't have what it takes as a dueler with an underappreciated build.
Any idiot can sit 2 screens away from everyone spamming firebolts every direction thinking they're good.
Fury/Rabies druids are by far my favorite pub dueling dueler.
seem to me like people are basing their opinions from dueling random wolves.
my f/r for example has 105 frw with normal setup and packs 9700+life without bo.
so whats a competent dueler?hdin,smiter etc etc...go make a real char ^_^
i know that if i duel a sorc..either es or not,i can catch her.
hammerdins arent all that great,and there a way of dealing with a desynch hdin as well
theres very few chars that a WELL made fury or hybrid cant handle
and a necro is the only one that comes to mind,and if hes gm(no bone prison)its fair game.
a f/r doesnt need to hit you..to kill you.
zombies are wonderful for that purpose
Wow only 105 FRW?
My LLDs all have more than that - how do you expect to desynch well with 105?
Theres a reason that there has never been a Fury druid ranked anywhere on the open ladders in any league or forum.
It's funny that you consider a smiter a top dueler. You clearly have no idea of what builds are on top right now.
superjayson
23-02-2008, 02:18
It's funny that you consider a smiter a top dueler. You clearly have no idea of what builds are on top right now.
he never said a smiter was a top dueler.
and since everyone else is just going to repeat them selves over a stupid argument, i'll repeat myself as well.
fury druids aren't as good as people make them out to be, but they arent as bad as some people in this thread claim. any "competent" dueler should know this ;p
AnimageCGF
23-02-2008, 02:45
There's dueling outside of melee gm dueling?
theres very few chars that a WELL made fury or hybrid cant handle
This is completely untrue.
AnimageCGF
23-02-2008, 02:56
This is completely untrue.
And what would that be? A sorc who stays 2 screens away at all times? A wolf can desynch just as a zon or paladin.
I'm not going to preach about fury druids being the best class, but they are certainly able to hold their own, just like every other class.
superjayson
23-02-2008, 03:00
I'm not going to preach about fury druids being the best class, but they are certainly able to hold their own, just like every other class.
no ones said fury druids are the best class. far from it. any experience druid player knows and accepts this.
they also dont suck, something these competent heads can't seem to understand.
but yet people are arguing over it in this thread
ps Zangeif, way to screw up that quote there ;p
And what would that be? A sorc who stays 2 screens away at all times?
Yep, welcome to reality. This is what dueling vs. a good sorc means. At least if you somehow manage to get lucky and hit them, you can do a good 50 damage to them after 95% ES.
A wolf can desynch just as a zon
Yep, they desynch just like zons.. oh wait, they are melee characters that need to get within range 5 to land a hit. Guided arrow is a little bit better.
no ones said fury druids are the best class. far from it. any experience druid player knows and accepts this. they also dont suck
As far as I am concerned they suck. They can't beat any of the top classes.
Diablo is a game that convinces everyone that their build and skills are good. Everyone has their success in pubs, and everyone can always find an excuse for their losses.
AnimageCGF
23-02-2008, 04:18
Yep, welcome to reality. This is what dueling vs. a good sorc means. At least if you somehow manage to get lucky and hit them, you can do a good 50 damage to them after 95% ES.
Rabies completely tears apart ES sorcs.
I seem to think you're living on :cloud9:
Obviously your skull is too thick to let any kind of common sense in.
Summerfun
23-02-2008, 05:32
Wow only 105 FRW?
My LLDs all have more than that - how do you expect to desynch well with 105?
Theres a reason that there has never been a Fury druid ranked anywhere on the open ladders in any league or forum.
It's funny that you consider a smiter a top dueler. You clearly have no idea of what builds are on top right now.
fury/rabies builds has won EP many times
EP has ridiculous rules that ban every decent item.
callmejay
23-02-2008, 06:21
i had a whole thing wrote out,but not worth my times to go there.
have your opinions no matter how stupid they are.
i doubt you have ever in your life dueled a competent shape druid
shapers are not the best or most viable char in existence
but they can hold their own with any other build
sorcs,pallies etc etc
the only exception is a bad mannered necro,even they arent impossible
druids also arent worried about their epride and raping a game 7vs1 either
and we usually dont keep a win/loss record
we get along fine though
have fun with whatever cookie cutter done 10000 times over char you duel with,im willing to bet you will meet a good wolf/bear someday and your perspective may change a bit.
JaY
I've seen your s/s gear and it was pretty nice. ccsoq is very impressive. So are your helms - unfortunately the better one got 1os. Of course this old school Fury gear is just for show since it is crushed by Grief/Fort.
whats a top build these days?
ill tell you,a top build is a person that puts alot of thought and energy into a build,practices,and gets very good with it.
thoughts?
didnt think so
No. A top build is a build that wins.
The funny thing about this whole thread is that I never build the chars that dominate. I love the "fun" and "different" builds that can hold their own against some classes, but get slaughtered by the top builds. However, I an admit to myself that these characters are not good and they cannot compete with the c/c builds that dominate the game.
i would hope that in the future you would give us some reasoning as to why you think a shapeshifter is the worse class that you can make on d2.
I already have. A Fury druid needs to run up to a teleporting character and attack it in order to hit. Since you chose to socket your Tomb Reaver with 2x 40/15 instead of 2x Shael it is especially hard to score a hit with a 7 frame initial Fury.
Ranged > melee, and it always has been. I have no problem with Fury druids, I'm just trying to be realistic.
BAMFSpecialOps
23-02-2008, 06:52
Being realistic is accepting the fact that fury druids can hold their own. They take a lot of skill and the player has to think about every situation not just cast hammers or smite. You say you love the "fun" builds Zangeif, yet your putting a SS druid down in every way possible. I think you should sit back and let the experienced druid players tell the pros and cons.
Being realistic is accepting the fact that fury druids can hold their own.
They sure can hold their own in pubs.
And since when is "holding your own" something that makes a build good?
He only asked good or bad. Simple answer is BAD.
xxxkillerxxx
23-02-2008, 14:36
The only way a Shapshift Druid has a chance to -"Win vs Competent Duelers"- is to give said Competent Opponents a severe flea & tick infestation. The only way to counter it is to buy OFF Repelant from Akara."
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Rabies isn't poison so antidotes do not stop it.
What do you have against shapers and what do you consider major builds? I'll admit shapers aren't the best when dealing with multiple targets but 1v1 is a different story. Yes they lack mobility (damn sorcs :wink3:), and 9/10 you'll probably loose to smiters. But they're really not as bad as you make them out to be and if you play east nl I can show you what a decently geared ss druid can do. :thumbsup:
I have nothing against shapers but what you refuse to understand is that they will never win a series of duels against any major build assuming equal competence. I don't care how many idiots you kill in pub games, I can do the same with teleporting ik barb. Wolves lose to necs, barbs, hdins, smiters and the only way they can beat any elemental character is to get healed by their attacks.
Cant dodge a flea jump. They have auto aim from two screens away.
But certain characters can only dodge fury for so long before they have to get in rang to hit. BvC and elemental druids are good examples.
Get real, barb played by a nerd with enough patience can just whirl around the poor wolf and never get hit. Shapers are about the only class where 1.10-style clipping still works lol.
i had a whole thing wrote out,but not worth my times to go there.
have your opinions no matter how stupid they are.
i doubt you have ever in your life dueled a competent shape druid
shapers are not the best or most viable char in existence
but they can hold their own with any other build
sorcs,pallies etc etc
the only exception is a bad mannered necro,even they arent impossible
druids also arent worried about their epride and raping a game 7vs1 either
and we usually dont keep a win/loss record
we get along fine though
have fun with whatever cookie cutter done 10000 times over char you duel with,im willing to bet you will meet a good wolf/bear someday and your perspective may change a bit.
JaY
You've never dueled any real barbs, necs, pallies so stop pretending. The best shapers all agree that good necs are impossible, yet some clowns claim they can beat bad mannered necs lol. _Your_ perspective is royally screwed and won't change until you duel good players of the classes you claim holding your own against. Good luck.
Anyone who thinks rabies does anything should duel someone with a brain asap.
He only asked good or bad. Simple answer is BAD.
BardFaust
23-02-2008, 14:59
isint this a really stupid thing 2 arguee?? If you have a good fury or fury/rabies druid well... you have a good one if he sucks then well ditto. Answer 2 the question is yes they can be good and they are super fun plus not everyone and there mom has one.
Skullbash
23-02-2008, 15:29
They're good, just not the best. Most importantly, they're fun, this is a game here, right?
Elcazuto
23-02-2008, 16:38
Shape druids definitely have their limitations and when I go dueling with my Fury/Rabies wolf I do it for fun, not because I expect to dominate the game I'm in. Some people tend to exaggerate their abilities, but most who play them realize their limitations and strengths. Most builds have an advantage over wolves, that's a fact. A good wolf isn't completely helpless though.
cookie_monster
23-02-2008, 16:53
i dont have to run after sorc/hammerdins etc.. u run from them use shift so u get the fury going and they tele right in to u instant kill.
xxxkillerxxx
23-02-2008, 17:13
u run from them use shift so u get the fury going and they tele right in to u instant kill.
Ah right I totally forgot how everyone you duel will tele right into you so you can kill them. My bad, definately redeems shapers. They're really good imo, just run away and hope people will tele into you lol.
cookie_monster
23-02-2008, 17:16
why run into hammers when u can bring the hammerdin to u?
SHAPERLOVER
23-02-2008, 17:28
why run into hammers when u can bring the hammerdin to u?
i see u r from europe, hope nld if y pm me ur acc and letd duel (will use hammer)
xxxkillerxxx
23-02-2008, 17:29
why run into hammers when u can bring the hammerdin to u?
Yeah I bet your wolf just drool at them and they immediately jump you hehe. When you've gotten hit by 5-6 hammers and haven't seen the hdin on your screen once you know you're dueling someone who doesn't suck, until then by all means run and shift fury lol.
BAMFSpecialOps
23-02-2008, 17:51
So what defines good or bad? Good because you can kill...well last time I checked you can kill with a SS druid. Good because you can go clear pubs? Go make another Hdin. Bad because you can't clear pubs? Sorry, a SS druid cant clear pubs, but so far I have found its the funnest char I have dueled with. Isn't that what this should be about anyways, having fun?
superjayson
23-02-2008, 18:22
As far as I am concerned they suck.
This is completely untrue.
isint this a really stupid thing 2 arguee??
yaya someone competent enough to understand !
xxxkillerxxx
23-02-2008, 19:26
So what defines good or bad? Good because you can kill...well last time I checked you can kill with a SS druid. Good because you can go clear pubs? Go make another Hdin. Bad because you can't clear pubs? Sorry, a SS druid cant clear pubs, but so far I have found its the funnest char I have dueled with. Isn't that what this should be about anyways, having fun?
Bad because ss druids lose against all major builds assuming equal players. Simple enough?
MysticDragon
23-02-2008, 19:50
Fury druids are insane amounts of fun and can own 99.8% of hdins. Fury v.s. fury duels are awsome dueling other melee chars is fun as well. Plus you can always go fury/rabies but I like my pure fury if you make one good they can stand up great even in pubs. Really come on a hdin?? **yawn**
Fury Druids cannot own 99.8% of Hammerdins.
i dont have to run after sorc/hammerdins etc.. u run from them use shift so u get the fury going and they tele right in to u instant kill.
Dang! I totally forgot about telestomping a Fury Druid. Yes, Fury Druids are the BEST!
I have nothing against Fury Druids. I'm just saying that Fury Druids aren't that great.
i dont have to run after sorc/hammerdins etc.. u run from them use shift so u get the fury going and they tele right in to u instant kill.
lol only a fool would fall for this tactic.... i mean a sorc tele on top of a fury druid hoping to tank? rofl?
I've never lost to a single shifter with a hammer based char, even when i switch in my one point smite setup for fun.., any half *** skilled hammerdin would simply desync rings around you and wont even get hit at all
99.8% hammerdins get owned by fury druids ....?
Guessing with Shift/Fury vs. hammerdins doesn't work often.
Most of the time you will be deal without even seeing your opponent.
Verashiden
23-02-2008, 22:48
This conversation is still going on?
For the Hammerdin debate:
No, a Wolf can't beat 99.8% of Hammerdins. However, Wolf's aren't helpless either. Desynch is indeed a powerful skill that favors the Hammerdin. The Wolf can dampen the impact with liberal use of Spirit Wolves. AI sees through desynch and can warn you/eat an invisible hammer to help shape your path. The match is by no means easy. However, it's not a 10-0 like people seem to be suggesting.
Cookie Monster: No one in their right mind would Telestomp a Wolf.
Also, Fury/Rabies >>> Pure Fury for general dueling >.>.
MysticDragon
23-02-2008, 22:50
This conversation is still going on?
For the Hammerdin debate:
No, a Wolf can't beat 99.8% of Hammerdins. However, Wolf's aren't helpless either. Desynch is indeed a powerful skill that favors the Hammerdin. The Wolf can dampen the impact with liberal use of Spirit Wolves. AI sees through desynch and can warn you/eat an invisible hammer to help shape your path. The match is by no means easy. However, it's not a 10-0 like people seem to be suggesting.
Cookie Monster: No one in their right mind would Telestomp a Wolf.
Also, Fury/Rabies >>> Pure Fury for general dueling >.>.
West NL? I duel Hdin vs Wolf yeah. OR Starcraft.
*MysticDragon
AnimageCGF
23-02-2008, 22:58
I think the only realm I find hammerdins completely viable is east, due to rampant hack using. I'd discuss further, but I'd like to not be banned.
I've made quite a few desynchdins and wanna be telestompers auto-tp to town with one fury.
cookie_monster
24-02-2008, 01:19
i dont say its the best char but its fun to see the reaction when the hammerdins get killed. and yes i have been telestomped ALOT.. Shapers isnt the most played char and the realy dont know the power of them (could be why they telestomp)
PVP: FURY DRUID good or bad
hmm.. good question. To answer this, first let us dissect or scrutinize first, what is good? Good is is a subjective metaphor based on different opinions and sociologic aspects of life. What is life? life is a systematic anomoly if different events that come down to a purpose..that purpose, playing D2. To some ppl, playing D2 is life...
...so yeah, Fury's good.
that help? : /
(yeah, I dunno wtf I'm talking bout, just trying to kill this thread with jibberish lol)
superjayson
24-02-2008, 02:20
hmm.. good question. To answer this, first let us dissect or scrutinize first, what is good? Good is is a subjective metaphor based on different opinions and sociologic aspects of life. What is life? life is a systematic anomoly if different events that come down to a purpose..that purpose, playing D2. To some ppl, playing D2 is life...
...so yeah, Fury's good.
that help? : /
(yeah, I dunno wtf I'm talking bout, just trying to kill this thread with jibberish lol)
no jary, they suck at life. and im going to be really argumentative and stubborn until you get this. :banghead:
i thought you were more competent than this !
MysticDragon
24-02-2008, 02:42
Whisper me on West NL for Hammer vs Fury. Account name is:
*MysticDragon
xxxkillerxxx
24-02-2008, 03:14
I think the only realm I find hammerdins completely viable is east, due to rampant hack using. I'd discuss further, but I'd like to not be banned.
I've made quite a few desynchdins and wanna be telestompers auto-tp to town with one fury.
Cause hdins aren't viable without hacks LOL. You've obviously never seen any of the 10-20 top european hammers, or the 50-100 almost as good. Then again noone is preaching shapeloving here either. For those of you who believe in god, is this a coincidence? I think not...
jesterlolz
24-02-2008, 10:55
Cause hdins aren't viable without hacks LOL. You've obviously never seen any of the 10-20 top european hammers, or the 50-100 almost as good. Then again noone is preaching shapeloving here either. For those of you who believe in god, is this a coincidence? I think not...
Wait, are you saying believing in god translates to believing fury wolves are good or something?
fury druid is very good char. more entertaining than lamerdin. i would like to see how powerfull will be this all top duelers without teleport...
Uncle_Mike
24-02-2008, 12:34
fury druid is very good char. more entertaining than lamerdin. i would like to see how powerfull will be this all top duelers without teleport...
EU NL? I haven't played in a while but wouldn't mind having some duels vs. you on a hammer :smiley: PM me :wink3:
fury druid is very good char. more entertaining than lamerdin. i would like to see how powerfull will be this all top duelers without teleport...
Fury druids would still die to most every build without teleport. Why do you think they've never been popular?
EU NL? I haven't played in a while but wouldn't mind having some duels vs. you on a hammer :smiley: PM me :wink3:
Psst. Uncle_Mike is ez and abuses BM
xxxkillerxxx
24-02-2008, 14:12
Wait, are you saying believing in god translates to believing fury wolves are good or something?
Go figure
fury druid is very good char. more entertaining than lamerdin. i would like to see how powerfull will be this all top duelers without teleport...
Fury druid is very bad char, only entertaining if you like dying. I would like to see how powerfull will be all this fury newbs without werewolf skill...
BAMFSpecialOps
24-02-2008, 14:38
Last time I checked, werewolf was a class skill. Pallys don't have tele as a class skill. This is what vknez would be refering to. Take away enigma or even better yet, all the duped runes and see how far you get.
SHAPERLOVER
24-02-2008, 16:04
the answer is simple:
BAD
superjayson
24-02-2008, 17:32
Go figure
Fury druid is very bad char, only entertaining if you like dying. I would like to see how powerfull will be all this fury newbs without werewolf skill...
dude give it up. the horse has been beaten, slaughtered and long been dead.
you keep arguing that a fury druid isnt a good char to duel with other people of equal skill or *competenance*. EVERYONE agree's with that, so its kind of pointless for you to keep arguing that.
but beside all that they still dont suck. be as argumentative or stubborn as you want (or already have been), but it wont change this fact. A competent fury druid is a good fun class to play, but it will always struggle severly against the majority of builds out there. we get it, you won the argument.
xxxkillerxxx
24-02-2008, 17:56
Last time I checked, werewolf was a class skill. Pallys don't have tele as a class skill. This is what vknez would be refering to. Take away enigma or even better yet, all the duped runes and see how far you get.
LOL yeah duel my vipermagi wiz spike shako desynch hdin with your shael'd death cleaver shaper please. You shape lovers are really grasping the last straw with this "ok they suck but they would be better if there were no dupes"-argument lmao. Shapers sucked in 1.09 as well so don't cry about 1.10 runewords lol. Imagine how good barbs would be if people didn't use these noobish enigma and cta runewords omgomg. BM?
dude give it up. the horse has been beaten, slaughtered and long been dead.
you keep arguing that a fury druid isnt a good char to duel with other people of equal skill or *competenance*. EVERYONE agree's with that, so its kind of pointless for you to keep arguing that.
but beside all that they still dont suck. be as argumentative or stubborn as you want (or already have been), but it wont change this fact. A competent fury druid is a good fun class to play, but it will always struggle severly against the majority of builds out there. we get it, you won the argument.
I don't spell that bad but yeah, _you_ got it, the other stubbornly ignorant shaper lovers obviously didn't.
AnimageCGF
24-02-2008, 18:15
PVP ability doesn't change the fact that all the character look completely terrible minus the wolf+bear shapes :P
Imbecile
24-02-2008, 18:16
The first step in becoming a top player is the realization that playing to win means doing whatever most increases your chances of winning. The game knows no rules of “honor” or of “cheapness.” The game only knows winning and losing.
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Uncle_Mike
24-02-2008, 18:20
And the above post concludes this thread :laugh:
Summary: fury druids are fun chars, most experienced players tend not to consider them a top class irregardless of the fun factor involved.
edit:
Shaper threads are somewhat boring
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