View Full Version : video: Aldurs Hybrid Windy-Shockbear
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3jbI5qIHDI)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85h-UVoBElE)
(couldn't fit all at once, sry had to cut in half. enjoy)
AnimageCGF
15-02-2008, 10:47
:laugh:
That's a pretty damn good look at what the ele skills can do with aldurs. Though I'm not quite sure how effective your shockwaving is. From the videos you hardly used it, and it seems it was often your downfall in the duels.
I really hate wind druids, but Its nice to see another aldur druid running around with a hybrid setup standing its ground.
Thanks for the vids. I am building an Aldur PvM Fireclaw bear myself. The glow rocks but to see it being used in PvP, that brings it up another level.
SyCoMiDgEt
15-02-2008, 12:32
Aldurs Is A DAMN Good Set!
45 To All Stats Thats Crazy!
Aldurs Is A DAMN Good Set!
45 To All Stats Thats Crazy!
Aldur's is the worst elite set in the whole game. :laughing:
Great videos Jary :thumbsup:
Queen Mebd
15-02-2008, 18:43
Nice videos again Jary, going where no one has gone before, an Aldur's wind druid in pvp.
That ww/ls assassin was horrible - laying a few traps then proceeding to run around them - your windy has much more style. :laugh:
That's a pretty damn good look at what the ele skills can do with aldurs. Though I'm not quite sure how effective your shockwaving is. From the videos you hardly used it, and it seems it was often your downfall in the duels.
I see what you mean. I assure you, it matters though. If I just didn't have it I'd have a tough time staying alive in certain matchups. The ones where shockwave really shines are against (1) desynching hammerdins who tele ontop you, and (2) interupting charge/melee char's when I'm low life. Generally when I'm down to 1 life, dueling a desynching hammerdin who likes to tele right ontop me.. it'd be very dangerous staying in windy form 'cause they're just too fast at the jump... therefore, what I do is use sorta guerilla tactics, hit and run. When he tries to tele on me I shockwave 1-2 times to put him in block lock (slow down his casting outta tele) and run, then he'll try to tele again I stop and shockwave and run. Just wash rinse repeat, basically keep it up a few times and he'll start to get flustered since he wont be able to easily kill you. Even when he catches me with a hammer my facets trigger, he takes more damage, and I just reshape. Most of the better cocky hammerdins I play will get down to a sliver of life... think about it, then just say screw it and run to town lol. One of my easiest duels are hammerdins, they're just sitting ducks for me usually.. but I know there's no way I'd be half as confident if I didn't have points in bearform ;)
Aldur's is the worst elite set in the whole game
That's what a lot of people assume at first, but Aldurs has all the right tools to make a very powerful PvP & PvM character. Yeah, ppl wil say... it doesn't do just ONE particular thing the best.. but if you read between the lines, its strength is what rests in its versatility.
I remember a good 2 months ago, I was dueling a lot with Sonny's amazing Tranghouls Lindwurm char (and this is before he even wrote the awesome guid :) and experimenting with that and I was just amazed at how well his character dominated duels for a set item, just really impressed. I was sorta getting bored with the game for a while and this sorta sparked an idea... how could I make Aldurs Set into a power set? I remember stairing at the set in the arreat summit... thinking about the strengths of the build... I mean, yeahhh.. +45 all stats, good resists, mana regen... it's all good, but then I realized the main strength in the set lied with the 7xopen sockets, yikes!! I wanted to come up with a way to capitalize off that. I owe a lot of my ideas to Sonny, 'cause there were a few key attributes that he used on his necro that stood out:
(1) very fast run/walk
(2) maximizing facet damage
(3) max block
(4) slow fcr, so used EXTRA versatility-- skills, tactics, etc to make up for it.
I sorta molded my whole build around that general concept. When coming up with a build for Aldurs, the first idea that came up was making a godly Aldurs FC build. Problem with going Fireclaw is, it's an inferior setup because of these main reasons:
-primary attack is melee, range dependent, elemental, and interuptible, not on par with speed... therefore my main attack will always be inferior
-secondary attack, fissure, is an amazing backup ranged attack but again since the damage is elemental and easily resisted/sorbed it can't compete on the dueling level
-unlike Sonny's trang necro, the meteor from the 'die' facets is far too slow to effectively finish off.
My next idea was, what if I did the opposite. If I go the Windy route, then my Primary attack will be ranged and therefore not mitigated from uninteruptibles and less range dependent... just much more balanced. Then my secondary attack, or backup, could be falling back on bearform and shockwave. I'd also not have to waste 3 valuable weapon sockets on shael runes. It sounded like an amazing plan so I PM'd Sonny and told him about it, he said it sounded friggin' awesome so I went iwth it. Based on my results so far, not to sound cocky but this is prolly the best overall build for Aldurs so far.. it is really really good. Generally when you see an aldurs bear in a duel or so, ur happy just ot see him sorta "hold his own" maybe get a lucky kill once or twice, but I literally kill far more than get killed, it's very very good. The versatility comes with it's 3 amazing defenses:
(1) the BEST defense of this build: speed. of course, if they can't hit you they can't kill you lol. The best defense is just raw speed and maneuverability this setup offers.
(2) cyclone armor: of course they have to hit you first, but if you do get hit this skill saves lives. Only in windy form too ;P
(3) reshaping & die facets: Most windies, if they get down to 1 life or low life, that's it if they get hit. Although this build lacks teleport, it makes up for it in the survivability factor. With cyclone & reshaping this build is tough as nails to bring down, its like the little engine that could lol. Also, there's a glitch in the game that's shown in the vids, but I capitalize on it all the time. With 7xdie facets, if an opponent damages you causing you to reshape, the die facets will instantly trigger over your opponents head (wherever they are too tee hee!) making them eat very good blizzard damage @-35% cold resist too, also allowing you to reshape and perhaps retrigger the facets over and over. So by trying to kill me, they oftentimes kill themself and it's really funny when it does happen.. we always get a good laugh ;P
Well, I'm done babbling sry I'm bored and on a sugar high. I'll catch you guys lata if you have any q's or w/e peace
Oilerfan
17-02-2008, 02:40
Whos that sexy wolf holding the hose? ;o
lol.. how cruel and unusal ;P My bear cowered up a tree after that hehe
Cool stuff. What realm are you on? I'm making one, what does your stat and skill distribution look like? This will be my first char after a break so I'm also wondering if this is an untwinked char?
Actually I mean, of all elite sets, aldur's is the worst. But of course it can be used if it's used in the right way, like you're doing. :thumbsup:
AnimageCGF
17-02-2008, 04:09
Do I get bonus points for being the first to comment on youtube :P
Do I get bonus points for being the first to comment on youtube :P
I've given you a bonuspoint :tongue:
Edit: (watch at youtube)
Do I get bonus points for being the first to comment on youtube :P
Yeah man thanks a lot :thumbsup:. You get 10 points, when you get up to 100 you get entered into a drawing to win all of Kibas gear, if he hasn't told you already ;P. Second place wins a Lamborghini diablo, just so there's no soar losers :)
AnimageCGF
17-02-2008, 05:28
Is 3rd place Druid Friends?
Because that's all I need are good friends <3
Is 3rd place Druid Friends?
Because that's all I need are good friends <3
awww... <rereads line> okay, I'm gonna get sick ;P Only I'm allowed to be sappy like that lol :tongue:. Anyone who shows up is my friend, except for porky... I'll make him have to earn it just a tad bit harder than everyone else >.< ha
Lol... and if I had to make a choice between druid friends and the car, I'm sorry verashi but you're so gone ;P jk
I like funny threads. Couldn't stop laughing when i read these posts.
Von Lazuli
17-02-2008, 15:44
I like funny threads. Couldn't stop laughing when i read these posts.
Welcome to the Druid Forums... Where sensible answers are rarely given and personalities eat things.
Lies! I love the Druid Forum, pity my knowledge of druids is so weak... and I play the arch rival, assassins...
Laz
Hey Jary. My druid is now lvl 80 with full aldurs. I earned it all in 2 days, haha. So I just need 7 die facets thats it?
My equip is going to end up like this I think:
Helm: cham rune/die facet
Belt: Arach mesh
Shield: spirit monarch
Gloves: Trangs
Rings: rare 10fcr
Amulet: rare 10fcr
Then the other sockets with die facets.
looks great dude.
personally I only use 40% fcr ;P, from magefists & arachnid. If you're always on the run, with enough frw u can sorta bypass needing huge fcr since you're always shooting and running with your nados :) I also stash trang gloves, but I just like the mana regen better usually hehe. I use 2xbk's, but fcr rings are great too since all in all speed is what wins duels :wink3: Don't overlook stuff like Cats Eye ammy too, huge speed boost. I'd stash at least, run down pesky bowas using run/walk tactics
I'd probably use Stormshield 'facet' primary if you can, maybe stash Spirit Monarch if you know it's a casters only duel though. It's your only source of damage reduction vs any melees or bowazons and I found max block is a lifesaver as you can see from many of the run ins I had, my dext is at 221, but I sorta overshot a few points too
You'll want a good 7-9 ele gc's, preferably inertia if you can. Anything is good though, more damage nado/hurricane = more cyclone too. If you're fast and don't get hit, who needs a lot of life anyways :P You either block everything or have cyclone heh
looks great dude.
personally I only use 40% fcr ;P, from magefists & arachnid. If you're always on the run, with enough frw u can sorta bypass needing huge fcr since you're always shooting and running with your nados :) I also stash trang gloves, but I just like the mana regen better usually hehe. I use 2xbk's, but fcr rings are great too since all in all speed is what wins duels :wink3: Don't overlook stuff like Cats Eye ammy too, huge speed boost. I'd stash at least, run down pesky bowas using run/walk tactics
I'd probably use Stormshield 'facet' primary if you can, maybe stash Spirit Monarch if you know it's a casters only duel though. It's your only source of damage reduction vs any melees or bowazons and I found max block is a lifesaver as you can see from many of the run ins I had, my dext is at 221, but I sorta overshot a few points too
You'll want a good 7-9 ele gc's, preferably inertia if you can. Anything is good though, more damage nado/hurricane = more cyclone too. If you're fast and don't get hit, who needs a lot of life anyways :P You either block everything or have cyclone heh
And how many die facets do I need for the glitch to work?
just one die facet is enough
KellKheraptis
05-04-2008, 23:47
Jary, something I've wondered after seeing the vids...what are you using for CBF? Or is one Ravenfrost a situational item? I'd hate to waste a socket on a cham when I could get another facet in the helm o.o
Generally... nothing. :tongue:
I do have a ravenfrost... I'll use vs bowas and cold sorcs at times, but that's about it, only situational--good quest'n. From bowas the cold length is generally very brief too, almost nonissue. Cold damage can be ignored usually, it doesn't slow down cast rate just running, so if I don't have to run much it's not really an issue.:wink3:
The Son Of Disaster
06-04-2008, 05:41
Think something to this effect could be workable in Wolf-form as well? I remember you posted something like a Wind Synergised Fury wolf using Stormlash to cast high dmg nados. Of course this would knock off Aldurs :(
Mitch Turnbuckle
08-04-2008, 04:05
Hello,
Great videos Jary! When I watch how effective a Hurricane/shifter can be it reminds me how much it sucks butt that you cannot cast stupid Hurricane while shifted. Just think how convenient that would be. Stupid Blizzard!!! Where is the consistency?
xxMADDhandlz15xx
12-04-2008, 02:50
great video. just made a char a couple days ago following yours but instead of aldurs set, i use regular 99fcr//99fhr//max block/dr set up with a doom zerker and 4 cold die socketed monarch on switch. I transform into bear when im low on life and i can hold my own against charger pallys cause of the holy freeze. thanks for the inspiration
Probably the worst druid I've ever seen. Im saddened to have even watched that video. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Probably the worst druid I've ever seen. Im saddened to have even watched that video. You should be ashamed of yourself.
This is not a attempt to make the most powerful build in the game, but to try something different. So of you could make it better with Aldur's, go ahead. Now you should be ashamed of yourself.
PacoQuerak
12-04-2008, 14:46
This is not a attempt to make the most powerful build in the game, but to try something different. So of you could make it better with Aldur's, go ahead. Now you should be ashamed of yourself.
true dat. No one liked my fury rabies aldurs idea tho...
An aldurs could still make a half *** town guard bear that would piss a lot of people off i betcha. Making fun of people for being killed by a bear + aldurs set = priceless
question tho, you enjoy this more than your shock summoner build?
This is not a attempt to make the most powerful build in the game, but to try something different. So of you could make it better with Aldur's, go ahead. Now you should be ashamed of yourself.
It was a joke, I <3 Jary. Stop taking things so seriously.
It was a joke, I <3 Jary. Stop taking things so seriously.
Oh, haha :laugh: Actually there are tons of people like that around so I did'nt knew it was a joke. Sorry then :tongue:
KellKheraptis
12-05-2008, 05:54
Another one for you Jary, I'm not seeing anything with FHR in the mix. Is that another stash item, or just not an issue if played properly as a "Run and Gun" dueler? I'm considering making one and getting to about level 80-85, for full synergy on wind, and a few extra into Oak, 7 Facet setup with BKs/Mara's, and then a full 10x3% FRW scs to go with 9xEle/FRW gcs. Would I be better off with life there, or fhr in some increment? Stash gear I could see being alternate belts and gloves, maybe an amulet or two (Cat's Eye for sure), and at least one Raven Frost if I really need the CBF. Any ideas?
~Kell
rCt Arbitur
12-03-2009, 21:19
Im fixing a werewolf aldurs build atm that will reach 4-5 fpa attack speed (calced that days ago, lol) which will be nice since the set gives the mace good damage, with fury and feral i will do around 4k dmg with 4-5 fpa speed ^^ nice build tho, why not make a list of what gear u used??
heffaklump
16-03-2009, 00:47
Allright this isnt directly druid related, but it is thread related :thumbup:
Hopes its okay. You say that the facets autoaim? Then if you have another char tranformed into bear, like sorseress, does the 1 hp transform back to human work the same and triggering the facets?
Then imagine the following:
6 Sox Sword 6x 5/5 Cold Die
4 Sox Armour 4x 5/5 Cold Die
3 Sox Helm 3x 5/5 Cold Die
4 Sox Shield 4x 5/5 Cold Die
+Whatever
Soso Max Blizz, Synergies (Works with facet blizzard?), Cold Mastery (Works with facets?)
I call her the suicide bomber ^^ If i made the right calculations, if all facet blizz hit once its close to 200.000 dmg.. and - like 275 to res.. ~ 8 k pvp dmg with 75 res wich should be kinda hard to have !
(I havent made it, just got the idea from this cool thread, but could it work?)
/Heffaklump
tcpgeest
16-03-2009, 01:25
Maybe u could give the soso a beast indeed.. might be fun.,.
I say try it out and tell us..
Allright this isnt directly druid related, but it is thread related :thumbup:
Hopes its okay. You say that the facets autoaim? Then if you have another char tranformed into bear, like sorseress, does the 1 hp transform back to human work the same and triggering the facets?
Then imagine the following:
6 Sox Sword 6x 5/5 Cold Die
4 Sox Armour 4x 5/5 Cold Die
3 Sox Helm 3x 5/5 Cold Die
4 Sox Shield 4x 5/5 Cold Die
+Whatever
Soso Max Blizz, Synergies (Works with facet blizzard?), Cold Mastery (Works with facets?)
I call her the suicide bomber ^^ If i made the right calculations, if all facet blizz hit once its close to 200.000 dmg.. and - like 275 to res.. ~ 8 k pvp dmg with 75 res wich should be kinda hard to have !
(I havent made it, just got the idea from this cool thread, but could it work?)
/Heffaklump
ROFL!
That would be funny as hell >.> Thinking about that cracks me up lol, do it
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