will conviction work

[BgJordan]

so i was thinikn of makin a smiter and im tired of fanaticism and was thinking convition lowers defense.Also lowers resist and/or breaks immunities for party members with elemental dmg.So i was wondering will it work???

[TheMayor]

i believe so, but i believe that there is a penalty after normal. also, unless your dealing elemental damage, i think it would be a waste of skill points. i stopped playing pallys years ago so everything is a little hazy.

[BgJordan]

Is there a penalty or do u just think cause i did see that it cant break imnnuity in hell but nothing about the defence thing

[BgJordan]

nvm i figured it out it will work cause ill use the voice of reason so i can cast ice orb on strking with smite yay and convic will help yey

[mephiztophelez]

the conviction will work great for any elemental users in your party, but will be totally wasted on your attack.

you see, smite ignores defense and blocking. so you'll hit a 40k def barb (for example) just as easily as you'll hit a 2k def sorc (again, for example) with 0 +ar gear. smite doesn't need AR checks.

a Level 2 pally, with 1 point in Smite can hit Hell Diablo just as well as a level 90 pally with maxed smite (well, his damage will suck and he'll probably get pwnt by hell D in a matter of seconds ,but you get the idea)

[Nimbostratus]

Conviction will help your party members who use elemental attacks or have trouble hitting with weapons, but it's entirely useless for a smiter.

1. Smite completely ignores defense.
2. Smite cannot do elemental damage.

[Copilot]

Why are you categorizing fanat with conviction, you can't substitute fanat for conviction.

[Paladingo]

I've got a conviction smiter in mid hell and he does alright. That's a PURE smiter with maxed smite that uses NO other attacks, no zeal etc. Conviction helps your merc a lot and is good with any "chance to cast" or "on attack/on striking" like with rift weap etc when you smite it makes frozen orb.

So IF you are sick of fanatic smiter then a conviction smiter can be fun but it is NOT a strong build. It is a great build for party play though! 5 second smite length and lvl 30(ish) conviction aura...

[Neksja]

But isn't Conviction capped to level 25? So no for 30ish conviction :smiley: everything else sounds very nice and fun.

[NumtyDoo]

Conviction is not exactly capped. At lvl 25 it removes 150% resist, it will not go higher than that. However it will continue to lower def for every point after that.

[HCKull]

You are sacrificing a lot to use only conviction while smiting. It does not help much.

I have a zealot who uses fanat most of the time. He only switches to conviction in order to override a bad guys conviction (such as Uber Meph) or to help against non-undead phy immunes.

[Paladingo]

Yeah it's not as stong as fanat BUT like I said is great for party play, if you play alongside a Tesladin etc! :grin:

Also lvl 30 (ish) conviction is good for overriding any monsters that have conviction aura. The higher the better. Like I said, not a strong build but a "theme" one. Sometimes you have to try something a bit different and a bit harder, which was similar to the opinion of the OP I think!

[safetypro]

I'm playing a build that will be the best of 3 different builds combined. He's a Conviction/Fanatic Zealot/1 point Smiter. On first switch he uses Voice of Reason Phase Blade/Spirit SR with Conviction. On second switch he has Astreon's Iron Ward/HoZ with Fanaticism. On second switch he can either zeal or smite.

Other gear:
Guill's Face
Duress
Gores
TGods
Drac's
Highlord's
Raven and either BK, Dwarf Star or Nature's Peace depending on area

He'll have 98% CB on second switch and a Holy Shield Prebuff with 8 additional PCombat Skills (13-14 total).

Skills:
20 Zeal
18 Conviction (25-26 with plus skills)
20 Fanaticism
20 Holy Shield
1 point in prequisites and Defiance and Salvation
remainder into Sacrifice

A very versatile fun build to play.

[Paladingo]

Looks good! Enough of everything to do well.