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oodjob
13-02-2008, 03:05
I am making a pure PvP Blizzard Sorc (for pub dueling) and plan to use the following gear:
Ormus
Fathom with 6 Bo ES Staff on Switch
3/20/2 Circ (has two P Rubies in it right now)
3/20 Ammy (has 95 life on it)
Spirit
Frostburn/Magefist/Blood
Soj
Soj
Treks
Arach
9x Cold Lifers
10x Mana Scs
Here are my following questions:
Should I even go ES?
If I do go ES, do I put every point into Energy and none in Vitality?
If I do go ES, do I need to max Telekinesis and one point into ES?
If I do go ES, do I need to get Mana SCs rather than Cold Lifers?
If I do max Telekinesis, what other skills should I max?
Should I also have MB with a SS or Sanctuary? If so, which one?
And finally, should I put one point into Warmth and one point into Frozen Armor?
All help is greatly, greatly appreciated.

DayDream
13-02-2008, 05:35
3/20 Ammy (has 95 life on it)
Huh? what kind of amulet is that?

Some es Pvp blizz goes a few cold lifers and rest mana/life scs while others go full cold lifers and rest mana/life scs. I prefer the x9 cold lifers with mana/life.

1.Sure
2.- I would like to know what kind of amulet that amulet is with the life and "3/20" If it does indeed have that much life than sure go full energy. Your cold lifers and gear should cover the life problem.
3.20TK is a must while avoiding hardpoints in ES. (Lots of annoying prebuff) Some do x9 light gcs with 3 light skill circ/amulets
4.Preference thing I guess.. some prefer tank over damage and vice versa.
5.You max TK and rest into blizz+syns.
6.Don't really need mb with ES but it does help against some chars. Preference but it will cut your energy down because of the requirement to use spirit. if you do go block then go whitstans.
7.One in warmth, one in each cold armors (shiver and chilling could be prebuffed.)

I am sure some people will appear here and answer your question according to their preference like I have.

Es is different when you are 1v1 gming or pub dueling. Which are you doing?

oodjob
13-02-2008, 05:58
The Ammy is 3 to Cold Skills with 95 life. I thought it had FCR but it doesnt but that doesnt matter anyway as I am at 115 FCR.
So what I understand is go ES, full Energy, max TK, Rest in Blizz/Synergies, do not go Max Block (unless I really want to), 1 in Warmth, 1 in Armors, and to answer your question I will be dueling mostly Pub with a chance of some GM private duels (I duel GM anyway, regardless how others will respond).
Quick question though: is ES still very good even if I do not prebuff at all? I am way too lazy to do so. All I would be doing is switching to the ES CTA for BO.

DayDream
13-02-2008, 06:04
You may duel gm but the way you prebuff es depends on whether you will 1v1 gm or not. pub gm is different and well you can do prebuff but aren't allowed to in some 1v1 duels.

ES to 85% is good enough.
85% ES or non es block with sanctuary

oodjob
13-02-2008, 06:10
I would be doing 1v1 Gm duels which would not allow prebuff anyway. Will this be a problem?

DayDream
13-02-2008, 07:06
What I don't quite understand about the es prebuffing is if you are allowed to fully prebuff at stash.
What I do know isn't allowed is:
- Leaving town to prebuff and returning to stash

This is pretty much the difference between gm prebuff and bm prebuff... a few skill points.

Wait another day to see more responses to confirm/argue/assist.

oodjob
14-02-2008, 01:44
Prebuff I would be doing allows no return to stash. You bo and duel with gear on you.

DayDream
14-02-2008, 03:44
So you can prebuff at stash but cannot return to stash after leaving town.
Doesn't it kill the purpose of having an es stick cta?
You could prebuff ES with memory and other stuff then switch back to cta/spirit (more bo level) then head out to blood moor, bo, and duel. This is allowed, correct?

oodjob
14-02-2008, 04:09
If you can fit it into inventory. As soon as you enter game, you put everything you want in inventory then never go back to stash.
Also I may not hit 85% if I do not change gear for prebuff. Is this a problem?

DayDream
16-02-2008, 09:36
It usually is.. the lower es% you have, the more you will need to make up.

So you can't swap 9 cold gcs for 9 light gcs to prebuff then back to cold gcs?

oodjob
16-02-2008, 09:41
Too lazy. I hate prebuffing. I think I just screwed up so badly on this Blizz Sorc. I cannot survive like any attacks in PvP or Hell PvM because my life is just too low and even though my Mana is godly, my % Change to Mana is too low. UUUUUGGGGGHHHHH, I am so pissed right now. I will have to remake her. This is the 4th Sorc I have had to remake because ES screwed me over.... :banghead:

DayDream
16-02-2008, 09:44
What is your es% at right now?
Es tends to be expensive.

oodjob
16-02-2008, 10:16
At best it is at 75% and that is already with switching armor, helm, and ammy for plus to all skills.

Reticent Drappa
17-02-2008, 09:10
Too lazy. I hate prebuffing. I think I just screwed up so badly on this Blizz Sorc. I cannot survive like any attacks in PvP or Hell PvM because my life is just too low and even though my Mana is godly, my % Change to Mana is too low. UUUUUGGGGGHHHHH, I am so pissed right now. I will have to remake her. This is the 4th Sorc I have had to remake because ES screwed me over.... :banghead:

Hmm, well if you hate prebuffing, and you do not actually max es, there really is no way to get it to a nice absorbtion rate without prebuff gear, ie light amulet, gcs, es staff, etc. I am not sure how many hard points you have into Es as of now, but if you do not like prebuffing, then perhaps a vita blizz would be more suiting. Es IS possible without much prebuffing gear, but you'd have to unfortunately max it which would cut down your blizz/blast dmg noticeably. For eg my orb/Es sorc maxed Es and only has to switch to the es staff and an amulet to get 95% absorbtion rate.

Also, you could, if you choose, utilize max block for certain duels, as it really helps. Fhr also helps aLOT in duels. A sorc without sufficient fhr will not stand up to much of anything for long.. :sad2:

If you decide to keep her as is, you may want to put a bit into vita if her aborbtion rate is low, as certain things (is poison, open wounds) cut right through Es and apply directly to vita. Ofc if her absorbtion rate is 75%, a percentage of everything she encounters will go to her life. Therefore if you decide to keep a 75% or so Es, I would consider (depending on charms etc) having a decent vita pool to improve survivability. :wave: