need help with tvt barb

[normannen]

hi all

i'm remaking my bvc to a more tvt friendly char atm, so i wondering what the optimal gear choices would be.

the gear i was thinking of is:

helm: 2barb/3bo, coa or arreat? what would be the best choice? 2barb/3bo?
armor: enigma (going to build, so i can wear forti aswell)
amu: highlord
rings: fcr rings / ravens
belt: dungo/tgod/ow belt/tal belt/arach? what would be the best choice? dungo when there is a bowazon in the game? if not arach?
gloves: dracul/trangs
boots: gore
weapon1: grief ba
weapon2/shield: beast ba / storm "eld" (max block)

inventory:
barb torch
anni
max/ar/life scs or bo sks? what would be the best choice?

other gear suggestions?

[xxxkillerxxx]

Switch between coa and arreats (arreats with storm obviously), keep cube containing +5/6 bo helm and +3 wc ammy (and sojs if you want) in inventory for invisible bo-buff. Use a few (0-4) wc-skillers with life, rest rest max/ar/life or ar/life. Keep some life/lightres charms in stash, needed vs some teams. I always like some extra mana on my barbs as well.

Never bother with fort, it's a total waste in tvt. Switch belts between arach, dungo and tgods depending on what's needed. Ow is a waste of time and imo you want maxblock without tal belt.

[Romasm]

If storm has to high str req, u could always try eld'd Whitstands Guard

[Xombie]

barb combat gcs with life > wc gcs with life `-`

[NewForumBloke]

Im assuming he meant the war cry charms for a buff. Otherwise it would be Mastery Lifers > WC+Combat lifers.

It sounds like your building a more BvA build than a BvC build imho. And i dont see you mentioning dual 'Doom's anywhere. Also, think about having some tri res boots in your stash. One last thing i would have to say is aim for 40 fcr (2x rings + Arach or 2x rings+Trang gloves) in your Greif+Beast mode.

Most of this stuff is explained in the countless BvC threads, but the way your describing your gear it sounds like you want a BvA.

[xxxkillerxxx]

Im assuming he meant the war cry charms for a buff. Otherwise it would be Mastery Lifers > WC+Combat lifers.

It sounds like your building a more BvA build than a BvC build imho. And i dont see you mentioning dual 'Doom's anywhere. Also, think about having some tri res boots in your stash. One last thing i would have to say is aim for 40 fcr (2x rings + Arach or 2x rings+Trang gloves) in your Greif+Beast mode.

Most of this stuff is explained in the countless BvC threads, but the way your describing your gear it sounds like you want a BvA.

Tvt barb = "bvc" with max block. You still max leap instead of shout etc etc. Since barbs are mainly bo/leap-golems in tvt it's not a bad idea to use some warcry skillers as well. You can use swords too for good zerk speed with shield.

Dooms were always overrated anyway even in 1v1 and tri-res boots shouldn't be used on ladder. I see alot of people with questionable iq running around with 30frw/10fhr/24fireres/31coldres/26lightres boots or similar instead of gores lol. 40 fcr isn't always needed either, depends on what team you duel.

[normannen]

it's going to be a bva, but i didn't wonder about how to build it... i was wondering what's best in the tvt scenarios. and about the doom question. it's not allowed to use it vs melee chars, which makes it more or less useless in tvt.

my current "plan" is:

helm: 2barb/3bo/10fhr "shael" when using stormshield / coa
armor: enigma (forti for 1v1)
weapon1: grief ba
weapon2: beast ba / stormshield "ber"
amu: highlord
gloves: dracul / trangs (only when i need ravens for cold abs)
rings: ravens / fcr
belt: tgod/arach/dungo + str/life belt (i was thinking only if i don't get enough str to wear stormshield with tgod)
boots: gore

inventory:
barb torch
anni
4x fhr scs
33x max ar life

would this be the best way to go? any opions?

[xxxkillerxxx]

I still wouldn't use that helm with storm, you lose out on 29 dex which is quite alot life + the overall mods on arreats are too good (+2combat, res, str, wah wah).

Draculs are useless in tvt, ow isn't appealing especially since people usually got more life than normal. Just stick with trangs so you always have 20 fcr.

You should be able to wear storm at all times with any gear as long as you use arreats. Ber storm and arach/tgods is nice. Verdungo and eld storm would save some stat points but versatility >

Fhr scs are never needed. Especially not in tvt where you mainly protect chars like zons. I use berserk very much and still don't need them, with pure ww you trade 200 life for nothing.

[normannen]

didn't think of the dex from arreat ^^ do you think i got enough str to equip storm without the str from dracul? i was thinking of always have 40fcr in tvt's, since there will always be some chars you need fcr against..

i was only planning to have dungo (+coa) in stash, when i'm facing druids smiters etc where i i don't need the block but i still want the dr.

don't you play with the 48fhr breakpoint? what do you do against mb etc?

[Xombie]

Im assuming he meant the war cry charms for a buff. Otherwise it would be Mastery Lifers > WC+Combat lifers.

even wc>mastery gcs

barb combats are the only skillers you should be using

if you really wanted more BO you'd just prebuff it lmao

+leap radius #1

[xxxkillerxxx]

didn't think of the dex from arreat ^^ do you think i got enough str to equip storm without the str from dracul? i was thinking of always have 40fcr in tvt's, since there will always be some chars you need fcr against..

i was only planning to have dungo (+coa) in stash, when i'm facing druids smiters etc where i i don't need the block but i still want the dr.

don't you play with the 48fhr breakpoint? what do you do against mb etc?

Yeah with arreats you'll always have enough str for storm. Use trangs+arach+ravens as default then just switch in tgods when needed. 20fcr is plenty alot of the time, especially in shield-mode. 30->48 fhr doesn't make much difference, vs mb-locks you have to whirl/leap/weapon switch out anyway and the rest is taken care of by good wws. Try both and see if you find 48 better.


even wc>mastery gcs

barb combats are the only skillers you should be using

if you really wanted more BO you'd just prebuff it lmao

+leap radius #1

Ogm ogm stop advocating bm tactics, you're gonna tell us to drink juvs like dennis too? I'm so upset, everyone knows prebuff is so bm so stop it, can't win fair==??!!