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DayDream
04-02-2008, 20:59
My friend now switched from his poison necro to FC druid when he found a:
2Shape shift rlvl 30 pelt
-visionary-
1Fury
3 Fire claw
7Energy
1 life
Do FC druids work in lld?
Not really but they are a fun build, and that pelt is ideal for one.
Even though they aren't competitive I would probably make one for fun if I had that pelt.
DayDream
04-02-2008, 21:38
He'll be happy to hear that.
Is there a known guide of the build? Like items/skills.
Not that I know of, but it seems pretty simple to figure out.
Unrealism
04-02-2008, 22:46
what realm is that on btw?
inanefedaykin
05-02-2008, 19:45
It's pretty straight forward, the only really tricky bit may be deciding on weapons and equipment switches.
DayDream
06-02-2008, 01:27
Sorry but.. we still don't know what to max out. xD
Avoid weapon/items that gives another source of element damage? so avoid using sojs?
Max FC and synergies.
1 into prereqs
DayDream
06-02-2008, 05:48
Just that? No special single point into oak or anything? oO
Maybe 1 into oak, I'd probably skip it though.
NewForumBloke
06-02-2008, 08:53
Id prolly skill distribute like this
5 prereqs in the ss tree
max FC for lvl (comes out to 12 i do believe)
2 prereqs in the Ele tree (firestorm and boulder)
max Fissure (comes out to about 19)
then from there you can decide where you want the other 4 or so points to go. You can max volcano, 1 pts into oak/ravens/wolves.
It, imo, comes down to the gear. I dont know how well a FC druid's ar is w/o gelics at that lvl either. You can get up near 2k dmg with +skills, but you'd prolly end up closer to 1.5-1.7k. Not bad i guess.
Hey zang, would he pretty much gear himself out like a fury druid?
-BLoke :smug:
Damn nice pelt though... damn nice :D
DayDream
06-02-2008, 16:25
Thanks for skill layout
Agreed, pelt is amazing.. only if it was +3fury.. I would be drooling over it and ask for him t give it to me =P
Pelt
magefist
Rhyme/Viper?
Spirit shroud/whitstans?
Strings
Sander's boots
+2SS with life ammy
with ar/life/whatever mods rings
or as mentioned above, gear the druid as a fury?
inanefedaykin
06-02-2008, 17:16
I'd probably go shroud (pskull) / whistans (Shael) but both setups would work.
Id prolly skill distribute like this
5 prereqs in the ss tree
max FC for lvl (comes out to 12 i do believe)
2 prereqs in the Ele tree (firestorm and boulder)
max Fissure (comes out to about 19)
then from there you can decide where you want the other 4 or so points to go. You can max volcano, 1 pts into oak/ravens/wolves.
It, imo, comes down to the gear. I dont know how well a FC druid's ar is w/o gelics at that lvl either. You can get up near 2k dmg with +skills, but you'd prolly end up closer to 1.5-1.7k. Not bad i guess.
Hey zang, would he pretty much gear himself out like a fury druid?
-BLoke :smug:
Damn nice pelt though... damn nice :D
Well I wouldn't worry about max damage jewels or charms which means this will be a lot cheaper than a Fury druid.
You can use PRubies in sockets, or stat/60AR jewels.
I'd personally use bloodfists instead of magefist for the gloves. The 40 Life and 30fhr should come in handy.
inanefedaykin
06-02-2008, 21:47
It's been a while since I've tested the numbers but IIRC magefists actually add a considerable amount of damage.
DayDream
06-02-2008, 23:59
So there should be no other source of elemental damage? As in no sojs to avoid lightning damage.
The whole mdr bug thing.
I don't see why you'd worry about sojs when 95% of your damage is fire. mdr bug seems unavoidable.
NewForumBloke
07-02-2008, 01:43
If you can completely focus on +skills in your equipment, and still be able to hit relatively well with ar mostly coming from charms, then all you really have to focus on making sure that you end up with max res, and 86 fhr (though i think druids are pretty good at 56 irrc).
I dont know how badly 2 soj's would hurt your dmg, youd have to check, but @ phool each source of ele dmg is seperately calced (iirc) so that would mean the 1.5k-2kish then the 1-2 light or w/e it is on each soj. Correct me if im wrong though, becuase sadly its been a while :sad2:
-BLoke
inanefedaykin
07-02-2008, 02:55
The extra elemental damage only reduces physical damage which won't be particularly high anyway.
Definately use 2x soj.
I would say use VMagi vs casters and a 194 life armor (Artisans armor with 3x PRuby) vs melee.
inanefedaykin
07-02-2008, 18:55
Why life armor?
I'd prefer the life over +1 skill.
NewForumBloke
07-02-2008, 22:29
So for armors itd be like the 194 for melee, and spirit shroud with pruby for ele? or possibly a 15 res jewel?
superjayson
08-02-2008, 01:15
Hey zang, would he pretty much gear himself out like a fury druid?
oh god no. an fc druid is completely different from a fury druid.
also beside sly it doesnt seem anyone has thought of getting any FHR. i dont lld so maybe im just ignorant but, is FHR pointless in LLD ?
Also can someone explain the "mdr bug thing".
crawlingdeadman
08-02-2008, 02:44
here's the mdr bug explained. (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=549866)
fhr is very relevant especially with melee characters. depending on how much fhr you hit shaeling helm/viper might be better than w/e you'd use.
oh god no. an fc druid is completely different from a fury druid.
also beside sly it doesnt seem anyone has thought of getting any FHR. i dont lld so maybe im just ignorant but, is FHR pointless in LLD ?
Also can someone explain the "mdr bug thing".
Besides the pelt, both are basically the same for lld.
sojs, 6 shael weapon, sanders, bloodfists...
DayDream
09-02-2008, 08:22
So the weapon will be shael'd military pick and war scythe?
dainbramage
10-02-2008, 03:20
Use a naga/war axe over a mil. pick. A mil pick needs 128 ias to hit 4 frames (i.e. impossible) - the extra range from a naga will be more useful, as they attack at the same speed anyway.
War Axe is the way to go to save many stats.
crawlingdeadman
11-02-2008, 03:13
Use a naga/war axe over a mil. pick. A mil pick needs 128 ias to hit 4 frames (i.e. impossible) - the extra range from a naga will be more useful, as they attack at the same speed anyway.
i'm confused. mil pick has -10 wsm when the other two have 0 so...
yetidiah
11-02-2008, 03:51
i'm confused. mil pick has -10 wsm when the other two have 0 so...
the fastest speed that either can reach is 5 fpa so the extra range is the deciding factor
crawlingdeadman
11-02-2008, 05:02
i realize that range is the deciding factor, but the way he said it it seemed like naga/war axe would be faster... to me anyway
SmittySixTen
11-02-2008, 05:07
Noticed you were talking about life armors. I'll just throw this possibility out there:
Artisan's of Stability or Holy of Stability /w 2os. If you're lacking FHR it will help free up some charm space for extra 15's and net you more base life than you'd get otherwise. Though, that's if you need the fhr...
EDIT: Oh, if you go with a Pick then go with Bear. Something in the back of my mind tells me that a Bear can get a faster speed than a Wolf when using Fireclaws. Maybe I'll check weapon speed calculations to be sure...
dainbramage
11-02-2008, 09:33
i realize that range is the deciding factor, but the way he said it it seemed like naga/war axe would be faster... to me anyway
With 5 shaels, both attack at 6fpa
With 6 shaels, both attack at 5fpa
See any difference? I don't. The fact that the war axe needs 120 ias as opposed to 102 (mil. pick) in this case makes no difference.
NewForumBloke
11-02-2008, 16:01
Not to mention that using a 6 sheal'd war axe saves a BOAT load of stats like Zang said.
I think that you can have a lot of fun with this build with such a nice ideal find. Let us know some of the results when youve gotten it up and ready, maybe even throw a fraps video our way lol.
crawlingdeadman
12-02-2008, 00:33
so i misunderstood, my ****ing bad.
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