Synergized ctc spells ideas

[Doppel]

Hi, i'm always up for fun and somewhat unconventional builts, but i also like to not suck so builts just for the hell of it without them being viable whatsoever are completely wasted on me.

Anyways, i like the idea of synergizing certain ctc spells so that they trigger on attack and thus add something to your built wich would normally not be there.

The closest example is that of a dream sorceress, but technically she doesn't synergizes one of her ctc spells, she only maximizes lightning damage via a mastery.

So i looked around a bit and searched for weapons with ctc attacks.
3 of them stood out; Horizon's Tornado, Stormlash and Windhammer.
They offer a good chance of casting a fairly highlevel spell and don't seem to be "bad" weapons, also they fit the druid wich is able to deal fast blows via for example Fury.

So i tested them a bit (mainly i made druids to run for hell hellforges and thus i could test various ideas and builts in the meantime).
I tried both Horazon's Tornado and Stormlash and fully synergized the ctc spells.
With Horazon's Tornado i had an attack speed of 5 fpa with fury (unsocketed because unable to achieve higher attack speed) and dealt 1145-1254 of synergized Tornado damage with 20% chance on hit.
A shaeled Stormlash also gave me a 5 fpa speed and dealt 1491-1619 of synergized Tornado damage with 20% chance on hit.
Synergizing Tornado ofcourse ment spending 62 skillpoints into the elemental tree, so i was quite strapped to send points elsewhere, think i had 1 oak sage point and 15 hardpoints into Lycanthropy and about a maxed fury.
This built also gave me a cyclone armor and hurricane of about level 28 wich is nice but extremely annoying when you have to recast hurricane every 50 seconds.
Also, i'm not sure the Tornado's that triggered actually hit the monster i was attacking, hard to verify.

I also tried Windhammer wich again provided me with a 5 fpa fury (socketed with shael or 15 ias jewel).
Fully synergized the twisters did 390-415 damage with 33% chance on hit.
The good things are that Twisters stun, it requires less skillpoints to synergize and i higher ctc %.
The bad thing is the insane high str req and that the twisters do little damage to the point that the damage actually doesn't matter much anymore, only the stun effect seemed to have some use (which is still nice).

The rest of my gear was basic, jalal, duress, druid T, dracs...

To conclude, has anyone tried any of the things i mentioned and does anyone have some enlightening thoughts on the subject or suggestions, advice on gear/skills, etc,...?
Has anyone tried it in the pvp enviroment?
Is the stun effect from twisters something that is helpfull in pvp?
How could i make this idea more viable in pvm?
And so on.

Thanks to anyone who replies, ideas on such are greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:

[Doppel]

Wow, no one seems to care, lol.
nm

[zarirazz]

check the SPF pat/mat thread.
i'm pretty sure that there are a couple of members who have made such builds, especially the stormlash wolf =)

[Jary]

Naw man it's an awesome idea. I've done it and it does work it was one of my first big builds starting ladder. I eventualy discontinued him for other interests but if I kept improving him he'da been quite a force... force of NATURE, NIIIICE! (jary one)

OhNo_ItsABear lvl 89

Jalal 'shael'
Stormlash 'shael'/SS 'pDmd'
'Rain'
Trang belt (switched later for Cold immunity/life)
dracs
Aldurs boots
1xcarrion
anghellics

Stash: torch, anni, ar/lifers, ar/resistors, ar/dmg lc's, etc.

Skill placement:
20 cyclone, 15 twister, 1 nado, 20 hurricane, 1 lycan, ~8 maul, 20 hunger, 1 shockwave, 1 oak.

ctc lvl 18 twister is really the only legit ctc damage dealer, using my layout I was dishing ~1500 nados left and right. Also, with ctc from Rain armor + carrion I was dishing out massive ~130 dmg twisters which greatly helped stun/crowd control :)

Stormlash hits 7fpa, not 5. But its mods are amazing, just awesome. The crushing blow, static shock, as well as its peak damage works just awesome vs bosses and/or crowds... you can weaken a mob down with static simply by utilizing shockwave and attacking (hopefully your AR won't suck mega like mine and you'll land more consistent hits, it really helps speed things up, fyi... well, live and learn:thumbsup:-that's one thing I'da imroved) you'll lower the minions hp down to a fraction of life, then the constant spam from nados & twisters will many times finish them off.

One awesome and very overlooked mod from using 'Rain' as your armor is the 5% ctc lvl 18 Cyclone armor! you're completely statted around Wind, right? Your cyclone armor should be awesome... right? By simply getting your paws dirty and hungering... furying, whatever... away, you're cyclone will just keep proc'ing over and over, just by getting hit. Then when ppl snarl at you about how "well, you can't cast cyclone in bear/wolf form merr mer" you can just smile at them :grin:

I highly suggest trying the build and going all the way with it it was so fun. I'd say it comes in a very close 2nd to my Shock-Summoner for my most favorite fun builds of all time. The fireworks are just hilarious ;P
I've even thought aboout working in Dreams with Static shock + spam nados/twisters for the ultimate crowd demolisher. Mostly just for fun though

gl dude... oh yeah, btw... here's a vid of him in action in his earlier stages. I've shown it before, yeah yeah... but its cool.:cool: Watch all the fireworks coming from Andy lol. Oh yeah, and this is before I replaced my string with Trang Belt for obvious reasons, after the vid I vowed never to go without CI lol.

Hungry Hurricane Adventure (part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_qD942Uq0)
Hungry Hurricane Adventure (part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWOkHSSR9NM)

mine was still an early cub, I'm sure yours will be much better ;P

[Doppel]

Thanks Jary and zarirazz.
Hmm Rain, awesome idea :thumbsup:.

About the Stormlash speed when in wereform and furying, i could'v sworn it had a 5fpa speed when shaeled.
Or is something wrong with the Wereform Center calculator?
Maybe i'm just losing my mind here. lol

Also can you verify that the nados actually hit the target i'm attacking? They seem to have a weird tendency of having a life of their own, LOL. (you got to love druids and their crazy like spells/abilities).

Glad someone else tried it. :smiley:

Edit: Ah werebear maul, thats where the 7 fpa speed comes from.
I'm a bit inexperienced with druids (only really made a PvM Rabies/Feral Rage druid, lol and a pure Summoner)

[Jary]

wups sry I forgot you were Fury. My selective hearing is already taking effect :laugh:

[Doppel]

Lol, bear vs wolf and visa versa right, almost sounds like paladins vs druids. :grin:

Also noticed that you don't need to put a IAS jewel in the windhammer, it already hits the 5 fpa breakpoint with fury.
Hmm maybe gonna look into a eth windhammer also, apart from the high req its not half as bad as i thought it was, i think. (plus the cb is something that for example a botd doesn't offer, interesting :wink3:).

Nice vids btw, love all the action going about.

[Jary]

Thanks bro. I don't like windhammer 4 3 reasons

-ridiculous strghth requirment
-ctc twister.... LAME. If you're gonna do it, might as well do it all the way. Need Stormlash or Horizon 4 nado buddy :)
-no block/dr

[Doppel]

Yea, might aswell don't bother with synergies if using windhammer, stormlash seems to be the best weapon to use by far.

Great thinking on the Rain, i always like it when a not that obvious or overlooked item/rw comes to good use. :)

[Verashiden]

Twister synergized is like 435-500 damage or something like that >.>

And Jary, you build was hax. Infinite CA FTL >:(

[Doppel]

Nope, only 390-415.

[Verashiden]

Geez, it's even worse than I thought -_-. Also, that's with .1 second stun, right? Windy skills aren't my expertise.

[Doppel]

0.4 secs :S

[Terria]

My favorite druid deals slightly with this play-style. Only I utilize the fire side of the elemental tree.

I've always wanted to make an Armageddon wolf, so I checked out some gear to see what would be beneficial in HC PvM play. I really had no idea that the Phoenix runeword existed, but it seemed to be the perfect candidate for what I wanted. Insane +Damage % (More than Fort), -28% Enemy fire resist, 40% chance to cast a level 22 Firestorm, +50 life, and Redemption.

The wolf was hard on gear and skill points, I wanted an effective enough Armageddon that would deal sufficient damage to creatures in hell, and a decent CtC Firestorm. I ended up Maxing Geddon, Cano, and Boulder, with 10 points in Fissure and two or three in Firestorm. With all of the plus skills, I've got Geddon hitting something like 6.5K and the Firestorm hitting a (roughly) 1.2K. This is, of course, before the -28% Fire resist from Phoenix as well as my merc's Infinity. I one pointed almost all of my shapeshifting skills (Except Lycan) but I've got enough +skills gear to bring everything up to level 21, which is more than enough for my PvM purposes.

I threw on a Druid torch and now I'm a walking fireworks factory, not that it matters much, but I've gotten many compliments on the aesthetics as well as the effectiveness of my build.

I call him the God of Fire (Name: Perkkele) and I was actually thinking about writing a guide to the build, but I figure that it may just be overlooked. If anyone is interested, let me know!

[AnimageCGF]

That actually sounds pretty cool. I'm not a super fan of basing builds around impossible to drop runes, though I make exceptions for pvp builds.

In my opinion terria, you should definately make a write up of it. Would make for a nice read and definatly something to read about as an interesting new build idea.

My love my fire druids as pure fire dealers with summons to back me up, but this sounds pretty cool.

[Terria]

I guess that was one of the big problems for me. I know that Fury/Geddon wolves have been around for a while, and I didn't want to be regurgitating information that the board already knows.

But I'm glad that you show interest in something like that! I might get started soon, I guess it never hurts to try.

[Tyce]

So, when in wolf/bear form, you could have a hurricane going around you correct?

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

Yeah, you just can't recast it in wereform, god knows why, especially since you can cast Armegeddon in wereform. And with a shift duration of 3 minutes or more, and a Hurricane max duration of 50 seconds...

[Mitch Turnbuckle]

Hello,

Terria your build sounds awesome. I am currently making a similar type of build, but using some different yet like-minded equipment and a Werebear. I for one would be pleased to see a build guide for your Wolf.