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This char i decided to kinda go all out on and not skimp any where as far as bp's and such. so here is where i am atm.
2-20 Rare circ str, mana, um'd for res.
30 mara
MP nigma(?! that ok?)
trangs
Shadow Dancers
10fcr res life ring
RFrost
but here is where i get frustrated.
A) according to the guide im aiming for the "venom base" build, but having trouble finding 3os Greater Talon or GT fool's claw. Now is that seriusly the only claw i should use? or is there another claw thats just as good as that specific 1.
B) another thing i seen in guide was WSM? or something along those lines. i tried reading into it but just got soo lost.
Other then the weps this girly has her 7x lifers with 2x fhr gcs, 20 stat HF/anni, just waitin to rock :thumbsup:. thanks
DayDream
25-01-2008, 10:27
Not just as good but you could probably use fury runeword temporary (ar problems apparently when using this claw)
well, eh i already took the time getting all the lifers, so i might as well just stay aiming for GT chaos, and GT fools claw. what is so gg about that specific claw?
DayDream
25-01-2008, 12:43
I think it is just specifically the ar problems
If you were to go physical then going fury is no problem because your damage increases with max/ar/lifers.
Venom types don't go max/ar/lifers and use shadow/lifers so less ar than physical damage.
TienJe is probably going to post here sooner or later to explain better.
i know ;) im hopin. i just wanna know if their is a just as good wep i can make chaos in and is there really a GT fool's claw, cuz i just cant seem to find 1. and if there is a just as good fool's claw. cuz like i said im not trying to skimp on this char.:thumbsup:
Runic talons are great to shoot for as well. Same speed as GT's (-30). Ferals work as well (-25) just need to get a bit more ias to reach 9 fpa trapping.
just use your judgement when picking claws. the setups listed at the end are just general examples, and are in no way the only choices.
the rationale behind using GT's is that they are the fastest claws available, allowing you to hit 9 frame traps with relative ease, while still staying low in reqs so that you can keep your life up. if you have enough dex to use runics, you're more than welcome to do so. if you need to place some points into dex, the choice will be up to you.
GT's, runics, or ferals will be your only choices for the most part. if you don't mind WSM bugging, you'll have a lot more choices.
i'm not sure if you've seen the updated version of the ghost guide (updated maybe a few weeks ago). take a look at the trap laying speed and WSM bugging sections. they should answer a lot of your questions.
p.s. make sure you check the BP's for trap laying. you won't hit the 9 frame bp with your current setup.
Well, the good new is is i got an RT chaos w/venom, wof mods. now this fools claw RT im lookin at is +2 skill, 14xxar (based on char skill lvl), some res, blade fury, dflight mod (eh) but only 15ias but its 1soc. should i drop a shael in there to pick it up a little, or is this gonna phase me? or should i even trade for it? will i hit the 9frames? or should u rip the Um out my helm and shael that? AH i just want the char to be good to the T. >.>
Well, the good new is is i got an RT chaos w/venom, wof mods. now this fools claw RT im lookin at is +2 skill, 14xxar (based on char skill lvl), some res, blade fury, dflight mod (eh) but only 15ias but its 1soc. should i drop a shael in there to pick it up a little, or is this gonna phase me? or should i even trade for it? will i hit the 9frames? or should u rip the Um out my helm and shael that? AH i just want the char to be good to the T. >.>
Trap Laying Speed- 9 frame with Fade. This is one of the most confusing parts of building this Assassin, so I’ll take some time to explain the mechanics.
9 FPA is the fastest trap laying can be, and is based on the average Weapon Speed Modifier (WSM) of your two claws. If you look at the base claw types on Arreat Summit, you will see a WSM corresponding to each type, ranging from 10 to -30. The lower the number, the faster the claw. Just like the IAS requirement for attacks is based on what weapon you are using, the trap speed bases the IAS required on the WSM of the claws. However, because the sin is dual-wielding, the average WSM (AWSM for short) is used instead. I.E. the AWSM for a -30 WSM talon and a 0 WSM claw will be -15. For future reference, the primary claw is above the gloves, and the secondary claw is above the boots.
The amount of IAS required for each AWSM is listed below. IAS is counted from every piece of equipment, except for the secondary claw. Note that any AWSM faster than -30 requires WSM Bugging, which will be explained later. Although your AWSM can be slower than -20, the breakpoints are not included because they require too much IAS to be efficient.
AWSM | IAS %
-20 | 63
-25 | 52
-30 | 42
-35 | 34
-40 | 26
-45 | 19
-50 | 13
sorry, i'm too lazy rehash an answer.
its ok, i somewhat get it. I just Lack Reading Comprehension skills ever since elementry. so if some 1 could simplify it a little bit more so i could fully understand id greatly appreciate it.
You put the slow on the glove you nut, drink it all up
You put the fast on the boot you nut, drink them both together
Lift the slow with your mouse you nut, drink it all up
drop the slow in same slot, mix them both together
And some more about coconuts/limes and you're done.
Follow that and you'll be WSM bugging. It in a nut shell is finding the average, and adding the faster claw's speed (usually a negative 20/30 so it results in a lower negative which means fast)
If reading isn't your forte, then maybe math. (suwayyah + runic)
WSM = average + (right WSM – left WSM)
WSM = -15(the average of 0 and -30) + [-30(our right) - 0(the suwayyah on the left aka glove side)]
WSM = -15 + (-30)
WSM = -45
Much faster than the -15 if you put the runic in first over the gloves.
Ok here is what id like to do. Im going to list my gear, in somewhat detail and id like to make sure from others here that i am hitting every BP neccessary.
Helm: 2-20 1soc (i think theres a 15ias-15res jewel in it :( . if i leave that in will i still hit the breakpoints?) anyway.
Armor:MP nigma
Gloves:trangs
Ammy:Pmara
ring1: 10fcr, lifer, res
ring2: 240-20dex frost
Boots: Shadow Dancers
Wep1: 3Venom Runic talon Chaos
wep2:40ias 1os Runic talon Fool's Mod
Inventory:
7x 25-29lifer shadow skillers
2x 14 fhr shadow skillers
20 stat HF/anni
10x max dmg/ar/lifer scs
My main questions are. What should i socket the Helm and Fool's with?
My main concern is making sure im hiting the Neccessary breakpoints. Like i said earlier im trying to go a bit all out with her.
Runnin' around 3rd on my way to home, thanks guys. :thumbsup:
My main questions are. What should i socket the Helm and Fool's with?
My main concern is making sure im hiting the Neccessary breakpoints. Like i said earlier im trying to go a bit all out with her.
Runnin' around 3rd on my way to home, thanks guys. :thumbsup:
If that jewel is a 15/15 then Leave that jewel! Lol
Sounds like you got a decent fools if it has 40ias built in. Socket it w/ an Um. Also just curious, what are the staff mods on that fools?
Currently you should be good for 9frame traps.
I know your tryin to make a near perf build the first time, but I’ve remade my sins countless times just tweak little things.
I’m not to sure about using maxer scs. If you set on using melee charms, then go with ar/lifer scs. If it were me, I’d use res/life scs to get a little stack vs. cold and light.
good call, i actually did sell those 10x maxers for 6x perm 20-5's and 4x 5res scs. so whatever. that was another thing i had 2 more questions actually.
1) Claw Mastery- 20
Venom- 20
Mind Blast- 20
Claw Block- enough for 60%
Fade- pump until 50% DR with equipment
Wake of Fire- 1
Lightning Sentry- 0 (1 if you like using LS or have extra points)
Blade Shield- 1
Blade Fury- 1
Shadow Master- 1
Dragon Flight- 0 (1 if you really want it)
All other prereqs- 1
according to the guide that's roughly how my skills should look. "..fade-pump until 50%dr with equiptment.." how do i check that!?!
2) esiest and least-gear-restraining way to max my resists for stacking those element!
Fire-Nokozac works very well for my Barb
cold-snowclash is the only thing i really ever used, ne thing else easy?
Light- how i can max my res in this catagory im lost. i was thinkin bout Lo'ing this kira i got laying around but i dunno if just +5% will do the trick, that and a tgod maybe. idk.
She is lvl 84 and rising now. these last 2 question will finish her up. please hurry. i wanna duel :thumbsup:
Fade's DR is pretty easy to measure - each skill level = 1% DR (counted at prebuff if applicable). Meaning if you cast a level 35 Fade, you get 35% DR. Just add whatever DR you get from your gear to it.
I use a 2sin/10fcr ammy, bk and raven typically for jewelry. You’ll need a jade w/ a res/ias jewel or just an ias jewel to get some stack. But also, I’ll put on a fcr ring w/ fire res and rising sun vs. bm fire. Hotspurs of course are icing on the cake. When it comes to cold I don’t really do much except rely on claw blocking. You could go 2 ravens and a 10fcr ammy w/ jade to maybe get you through 2 blizzes, but depends on the blizz dmg. Vs. bm light I go one Wisp w/ fcr ammy. If it get’s ugly I throw on top an Ort Kiras and tgods and I’m usually ok vs. strong fc’ers. Usually I’m fine w/ a Wisp as you should stun lock ‘em before they can get more than a couple farcasts off.
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