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KremBanan
24-01-2008, 12:23
Lets work the numbers(on a very low level) a little (mark: Im not really into figuring out numbers in details, I just tested it with my Wf/Faith bowa level 90)

Torch:
Lets say you have one with 20attributes. This will give you 40 more pts into dexterity(20str/20dex). (Im a glass-cannon, so I dont really count the 20vita pts here)
With the 40 dex you get 40 damage and some AR + the small damage gained from the +skills. But with 2x 3max sc or a 6max lc, I get 60 damage. So I get more damage from max charms, than the +skills and damage from the torch. Life and resists aside, you gain more without a torch (and I havent said anything yet about the Firestorm procs from the torch, which we all know is a ***** and causes games to chrash.)

Anni:
Here you get 40damage+1skill on one slot, which is more than the 3max sc.



Im going without a torch from now on.

slayer37
24-01-2008, 12:43
I think you have to put into consideration here that the 1% ED per dex is applied to both base min and max damage. Fine charms only add to max base damage.

Smackin
25-01-2008, 21:30
uh...u dont get 40 dmg from torch, u get 40ED, which multiplies ur ~250dmg bow, giving u 100 more dmg. not to mention +15% xtra dmg from GA/Strafe.

AnimeCraze
25-01-2008, 21:57
You also get anti-physical immune from the fire storm, as well as a buffer valk.

On the con side, you also get more lag.

chien
25-01-2008, 22:16
I'd use them in private games. I've never crashed the system in private games. However, you'll want to take out the torch. Otherwise, prepare to be kicked out of bnet :P

Not only the stats for %ED, they also provide +skills and +resist :)
If you have both, +4 skill = another +20% ED if using strafe or guide arrow and stronger valk. Also, more +resistance never hurts, right?

As above mentioned, the only downside is the firestorm from torch.

Oh, the +max will only add to +max damage. Then, the average damage will be half of that.

Chien

Smackin
25-01-2008, 22:46
Guess blizz never thought about fast attacking characters when they slapped on the firestorm mod on torches.

chien
25-01-2008, 22:55
Yeah, I wish there is a way to turn it off. Or, at least make it more useful => can increase its damage by +all skill items :)

Chien

AnimeCraze
26-01-2008, 02:56
I wonder. Fire mastery of an enchantress.

phool
26-01-2008, 05:23
Think it's should do reasonable damage on an FC bear tho tbh I find it pretty effective vs stuff like souls (high dr low hp) unboosted. Can makes quite a difference jabbing or strafing with crap gear. Anni and torch are both worth at least 3x their weight in 3/20/20s imo, or would be except torch is unusable on a bnet strafer.