Merge USEast and USWest??

[JEstevam]

(posted in classic forum, being that classic and classic/hardcore especially will be benefited most)

Clearly there's a shrinking number of people playing the game. While it's not too bad on ladder/classic it's god awful at ladder/classic/hardcore.

i'm assuming most non ladder classic realms are dying, and xpac games might have a lot of games, but probably less than 1/2 of what they use to have.

I think blizzard should merge USEast and USWest to preserve a more solid D2 community. That is unless they want less people to play, but they seem to (for the most part) genuinely care about old games like diablo II and starcraft. (they don't care about d1 at all though.)

I was wondering how many people agree or disagree with me. I think it'd be great if we could get a petition or something for it, and I'd think it'd make it cheaper and more efficient for blizzard anyways server-wise. This is my assumption.

Any problems with my proposal?

[deverse]

one of the main problems with that is LAG. You get alot of lag as it is when you're playing on your own realm. I live in new york, and im playing on east. I am still getting lag on a daily basis. Think what if they merged the servers and us on the east coast, try to play on the servers that are on the west coast. Think of the amount of lag that would cause, visa versa.

[WarlockCC]

Another interesting topic might be character names. I'm guessing quite a few character names are in use on both realms.

[squiggle]

No, Even if enough people did agree, It'd be to much work for blizzard. They wouldn't do it, I bet you :P

The char names would be an issue, Also common dupes from both realms = merged which could be quite crap.

Also all the west kids coming to east would be quite annoying :P

[goomba]

No, Even if enough people did agree, It'd be to much work for blizzard. They wouldn't do it, I bet you :P

The char names would be an issue, Also common dupes from both realms = merged which could be quite crap.

Also all the west kids coming to east would be quite annoying :P

ZOMGWESTEZPK :badteeth:

[squiggle]

West VS East duels may be fun ^_^


But other then that..Nty.

[goomba]

duelling is only fun in my opinion when some over cocky kid attempts to pk in non-duel games and gets himself raped. especially fun when it's a monster they die to, and then get nk'ed time and again either by a party member, or said monster, and end up leaving naked.

actual duel games are usually just full of kids using far too many aiming hacks, fcr/fhr/farcast/tele hacks, autojuv and autotp hacks.

[squiggle]

Also fun pking other mf sorcs when I meet them on my glitcher ^_^

And when I PK their MF sorc, They'll go get their "SvS" or random pvp char, And still end up dieing to mf sorc. :donno:

Yes..Some kids are that bad..(To die to me)

It seems we just hijacked this thread, High 5!

[goomba]

well it was a thread worth hijacking. re: sorcs (or others) that attempt to pk - the most fun I have had with that, is when someone hostiles me, then unhostiles me, and then proceeds to enter the area I'm in... rest assured if I am mfing, questing, rushing, cowing, or csing I have zero interest in taking the time to unhostile someone that had previously hostiled me.

at one point, I was nm cowing with a CE/Summon necro (already in cow portal) when I got hostiled by level 6x ww barb/nub that thought he was going to 'pwn' the game. when he realized that we were all already in the cow portal happily leveling away, he unhostiled, then thought he'd ruin our efforts by unhostiling, and then simply clearing the entire cow level w/out being partied. he made the mistake of WWing through a particularily large herd that I had already amped, but was then in the process of kabooming with CE... of course he left naked...

back to the core topic at hand: another reason a merge wouldn't work so well is that classic/xpac are still sort of fundamentally the same core.

so, while classic, hardcore ladder would possibly benefit the most due to a potential increase in games on the new combined, merged realm think for a second about how many overall people would still be on the new realm's load balanced server pool.

classic can still upconvert to xpac. therefore, if in fact there are zero classic hard core games on any given realm, there may still be literally thousands of non hardcore classic games on that realm's server pool - load balanced among the various types of play (non-ladder, ladder, norm/nm/hell, hardcore, softcore etc.)

if in fact the idea is to promote more players, as someone else mentioned the increased amount of lag due to load, as well as lag induced by more 'network hops' that a player might see would both be extremely detrimental to hardcore play where lag already kills off enough players.

[Voorhees]

I play on east, and the few ex-west insurgents that I've played with make me not want to play with more of them. Also, on the flip side, we've got some real boobs here on east that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

[phool]

ww barbs are the most the irritating pkers because they leave before you can kill them as you can't die during ww - they all do really long wws to give them enough time to escape.

A shared realm you can access from all other realms would be neat. There would need to be a max hours per week per account or per key for this realm as it would risk getting way too heavily used, would be good mostly for pvp. Unfortunately east's higher duperate would leak onto eu values and so on.

[Fearlessone]

Pretty much only if there was some $$ advantage for Blizzard would it do this. I'm aware of only one server for the 500 or so online Diablo1 games. And I wouldn't be surprised if they use this server for other functions/games. So at some point would it be easier or cheaper for Blizzard to merge the realms? The acct and character name duplicity is a problem, and an opportunity for hackers, as has been proven twice, once around Xmas of 2001 and then again a couple years ago. Blizzard would have to increase the number of bytes in both the acct and char fields to accomplish this. Maybe they already have...to solve this earlier problem with hackers taking over people's accts. (The first time this happened it made news in some magazines even and sullied Blizzards reputation even among the sillies who don't know this company all too well like we do)

It was pointed out immediately here that lag issues are potentially bad. Imagine someone from Europe who has an acct on USEast trying to play on servers in California. I'm not sure how things work, but a friend of mine in Australia said he has given up trying to get started on USEast servers.

Interestingly, if you look at all the chat commands closely, there is something about sending a msg to people on other realms. I've never been able to get this to work, and heard the same from others.

Yes, I vote for merged realms. I made a thread about this here years ago, and there was another thread less than a year ago about it.

[squiggle]

I'm not sure how things work, but a friend of mine in Australia said he has given up trying to get started on USEast servers.




Your freind is weak. :P