zerker or PB?

[sirBeReN]

Simple enough:

What is better for my Frenybarb, to rely on phase blades or xerk axes? What are the differences?
Ofc im talking about runewords here.

thnx in advance.

[stephan]

It depends what runeword. A PB is pretty nice when making Grief and perhaps CM, but you wouldn't want to make Death in a PB for example.

[sirBeReN]

Im have botd and beast as main hand weapons, but can make a fewother words too. Not sure which ones yet.

[phool]

The perfect pvm frenzy setup would probably be indestructible egrief zerker, indestructible ebeast ettin, with 10 oias (highlords). Possible only on NL or RWM'd SP however.

I'm a bit confused what you're asking though tbh; you are set on going beast/bodt but don't know what to put them in for best effect? PBs are the only option for beast if you don't want to have to repair, you're sacrificing a lot if you go for this however, grief is the only RW that doesn't suffer a lot from being in such a low base damage weapon. If you do make beast in a pb put the botd in an eth colossol sword, these have the highest average damage (among swords... I assume you'll want to keep to one weapon mastery though, otherwise ettin axe is best) and you're overkilling on the ias anyway.

If repairing your weapons isn't an issue you can do quite a lot better than beast/botd.

[zzzackkk]

How would you get an indestructible egrief zerker phool?

[jesterlolz]

The perfect pvm frenzy setup would probably be indestructible egrief zerker, indestructible ebeast ettin, with 10 oias (highlords). Possible only on NL or RWM'd SP however

Its cuz back in some earlier patch (forgot which), if you made a runeword which made the weapon indestructable, then hel'd the runeword, it would maintain the indestructable mod. Thats why they can still exist in nl.

RWM is a SP mod which enables you to use ladder runewords, and this mod also made it so the old patch's indestructable weapon glitch still works.

[phool]

There used to be a bug that meant the indestructible property remained, after removing the RW that gave it that property. On SP, at least with RWM, it will work in 1.11b and I hear a small amount of these items remain on NL. Here's (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=593732) a recent thread on the subject in the SP forum.

[sirBeReN]

Oh, I didnt knew I could have ladder RW in SP! Thats great. Do you have a quicklink for that mod?
@phool
I'm a bit confused what you're asking though tbh

1. Thnx for bothering and your help so far. ;)
2. I have many runes (from many runs in a lan-multy with my bro). From what I see, i can make almost any RW. So, Im just asking:
Which combo Weapon/RWs should I use for my FrenzyBarb? I hope now Im clear enough.

[vorstelman]

just to save you alot of runes, don't make a gemmed phase blade, since beast only works for axes/scepters/hammers.

thats why axes are the way to go, since beast is great and you don't realy want scepters or hammers. grief is great with it, so ill suggest grief and beast both in berzerker axe.

[phool]

Well if you're playing SP and you've got the runes, I'd recommend what I mentioned above. An indestructible egrief zerker with an indestructible ebeast ettin, with 10 oias (highlords). To go one final step for the ideal weapons, use eth weapons from 1.07 for extra damage. It'll take about a week to get a char setup for rack running, .07 is a lot harder than 1.09 onwards. Details for all this stuff in the SP section. I've haven't really checked to see if eth and the 07 damage enhancement make base damage so high something else outperforms grief but I doubt it. This is what a .07 ba looks like after the character holding it has been taken across to 1.11b... haven't managed to get an eth one with %ed yet.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4838/image2qc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yeah brainfart on that extra reason why beast pb would be a really, really bad idea t.t

[sirBeReN]

Thank you very much.
Well, now I seriously consider using the RWM...is it supposed to be a cheat? :S

Also, will it work with 1.10 or only 1.11?

[sirBeReN]

I checked, it works for 1.10 too.
but here comes another noob question. Which word is Lacerator?
/me feels definitelly a noob after almost 7-8 years of Diablo2.. crap!

[RibGriller]

Thank you very much.
Well, now I seriously consider using the RWM...is it supposed to be a cheat? :S

Also, will it work with 1.10 or only 1.11?

I'd say 70-80% of the SP community uses RWM. Maybe it's our way of giving the middle finger to Blizzard for not keeping us in the mix. :)

I checked, it works for 1.10 too.
but here comes another noob question. Which word is Lacerator?
/me feels definitelly a noob after almost 7-8 years of Diablo2.. crap!

Lacerator is a unique, not a RW.

[sirBeReN]

I'd say 70-80% of the SP community uses RWM. Maybe it's our way of giving the middle finger to Blizzard for not keeping us in the mix. :)

:D:D

Lacerator is a unique, not a RW.

I searched the ASummit before I asked, but didnt find the word in the unique weapons. Seems i have to search better though..:p

[phool]

Lacerator's a unique winged axe, most significently it's got the godly 33% ctc amplify damage on striking mod, wheras nothing else has over 5%. Not a common weapon by any means.

[sirBeReN]

yep, I fount it before you mentioned it, but thank u again. These fora/members worth a million. I love the climate here, as Im not used to so kind and helpful buddies :thumbsup:
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