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TopGun
10-01-2008, 07:09
Can someone please explain in detail what a 30/20 shield is?

1)What is 30, and what is 20?

2)Whatever 30 and 20 is, can you buy in shop?

3)Can a magical 30/20 come with 3 sockets too, or would that have to be rare?

4)How much does a typical 3 PDiamond, 30/20, prismatic resist shield go for?

5)What type is preferred for sorc rusher (1)Large-req. str.-34, 3 os max, 32% block, (2)Bone-req. str.-25, 2os max, 40% block, or (3)Tower-req. str.-75, 3os max, 44%block...or the Ward?

6)Explain fbr, fhr, % to block and how they relate to being able to block effectively without being block-locked.

Thanks,
-TG

sumzy
10-01-2008, 14:18
30/20 means 30% increased chance to block and 20% faster blocking and you cant get them socketed

TopGun
10-01-2008, 15:07
They won't spawn socketed? Even on a rare?

goomba
10-01-2008, 15:09
Can someone please explain in detail what a 30/20 shield is?

1)What is 30, and what is 20?

2)Whatever 30 and 20 is, can you buy in shop?

Yes, they can be shopped

3)Can a magical 30/20 come with 3 sockets too, or would that have to be rare?

No, you can't get them with 3 sockets, even if they have been through the Act5 Exploit/hack

4)How much does a typical 3 PDiamond, 30/20, prismatic resist shield go for?
See above - no such thing

5)What type is preferred for sorc rusher (1)Large-req. str.-34, 3 os max, 32% block, (2)Bone-req. str.-25, 2os max, 40% block, or (3)Tower-req. str.-75, 3
os max, 44%block...or the Ward?
Depends on preference. Most folks prefer as low of str as possible, with 30/20 priz/stacks bone shields

6)Explain fbr, fhr, % to block and how they relate to being able to block effectively without being block-locked.

there's a search function on the forum. in a nutshell if you have poor teleporting skill/luck you can find yourself teleported right into the middle of a series of monsters that will attack you and put you into a state where you are in block lock. in otherwords your character is automatically attempting to block, and your hit recovery rate is so low that before you can initiate another action such as teleporting away you are in block animation again due to the next incoming hit.

for pvm it's rarely a problem. for pvp, you have a long ways to go before worrying about it based simply on asking the questions above (not intending to sound arrogant with that, just stating a fact)
Thanks,
-TG

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goomba
10-01-2008, 15:11
They won't spawn socketed? Even on a rare?

not on classic. for rares to be socketed one must use the soj/cube recipe, or trade for one that was socketed in a fashion that is now patched.

TopGun
10-01-2008, 15:31
OK, no offense taken by the way...things starting to make a little more sense now. I mostly didn't get why a 3soc Large shield was recommended for a rush sorc, but everybody was talking about a priz 30/20 Bone shield everywhere else I saw. (assuming high block+stacked res for regular chars>higher res+lower block for rush only chars)

Thanks for the answers guys, and feel free to keep educating me on the finer points of said shield/blocking/faster hit recovering lore.:thumbsup:

-TG

Also, where at in MI Goomba? Grand Haven here...

goomba
10-01-2008, 15:43
Also, where at in MI Goomba? Grand Haven here...

I'm old. Therefore you'll usually find me on the road between Macomb County, Southwest Oakland County all the way up to just south of Flint, depending on the time of day. :thumbsup:

rush sorcs are usually "finished" at a certain level, so on softcore it's only an inconvenience if/when they die during a rush - simply have the rush sorc exit and rejoin. therefore the 3 socket pdia shield is often sufficient for simple/partial rushes - even if rushing multiple people through act2 hell.

re: pvp comment. a very large percentage of pvp/pk'ers use various fhr/fcr/frw hacks - if you go without those hacks, and with gear that has low fhr/fbr then you'll often get stunlocked by various attacks from enemies - an example is fballers with their massive cast rates, and their hits that send you into block/hit recovery animation.

WretchedOtis
13-01-2008, 18:32
I mostly didn't get why a 3soc Large shield was recommended for a rush sorc, but everybody was talking about a priz 30/20 Bone shield everywhere else I saw.

I think the idea with this is for the resistance. (3pdiamonds = 57 resist all) With a rush sorc fbr/fhr is not as important. Death after all isn't really a concern as Rush Sorcs are typically not going to rank on ladder.

As well, its a question of economics. Can you afford a 30/20 priz bone sheild? Or can you afford a3 socket large shield (fairly easily found - run around in Cow games)

Of course, there is also how good your character looks to consider - if you are so inclined. Bones/Grims just plain look cool (imo)