Need help with PNecro

[boldbehan]

Hey all,

Recently I've started a PNecro and things had been going pretty smoothly until I sorta hit a wall with my character at NM CS. I really cannot do **** in NM CS, like my character is so weak, at lvl 46, that if the party moves on an I'm stuck there with one monster, I have to run because I can't kill it myself. The only monsters I can actually kill are the flying ones that mana drain (sorry not good with names). The Venom Lords aren't immune when I cast Lower Resist on them, but they might as well be because my nova does around || that much damage to them. In the switch on the right side that spawns all the Lords I've just taken to casting Decrepify.

Now I understand a PNova Necro isn't going to be as strong as other setups, but in no way was I expected to be this weak. Especially since my character is pretty decked out. Here's my gear: Wormskull, Silks, +1 ammy, Ume's Wand, 49 res Ward, Frostburn, Nightsmoke, 2 FCR rings, and 30fwr boots with some res. So in total I've got +5 skills from my gear...

My nova does 1056 to 1146 damage over two seconds, which shouldn't be too bad but it honestly feels like nothing. I've got 22 points in nova, 16 in poison explosion and 10 in poison dagger. On curses I've got 8 in Decrep and 7 in Lower Resist

I'm thinking about just chalking the character because even though it's a lot of fun I really cannot do **** at these higher levels... anyone got some advice?

[naskali]

get revives and u will have more time to psn ur enemies

[Demek]

don't add more in decrep if u have ume
solo if ur damage is too weak
for u it's more important to run faser than fec ;) than do 100 more psn dmg, so ditch silks and ward and get some bone prism (shop at nm drognan) and twitch/mageplate
the pn/ce hybrid is fun btw ;)

[chants]

You should max the poison skills (all 3!).
Put the rest of your points into corpse explosion/revive/skeleton mastery. (your choice..on my psn necro, I maxed corpse explosion with no revive/mastery, and a few pts in lower resist [by level 86])
Don't put any more points into any more curses!
You will hardly touch venom lords in hell with poison.
I think the runs for you to do once in hell, will be flayer jungle runs.
You can poison nova, and revive a few to take hits, and corpse explode too.

[WarlockCC]

You should max the poison skills (all 3!).
Put the rest of your points into corpse explosion/revive/skeleton mastery. (your choice..on my psn necro, I maxed corpse explosion with no revive/mastery, and a few pts in lower resist [by level 86])
Don't put any more points into any more curses!
You will hardly touch venom lords in hell with poison.
I think the runs for you to do once in hell, will be flayer jungle runs.
You can poison nova, and revive a few to take hits, and corpse explode too.
Indeed, it makes quite a difference to max them. And since his nec is poison, why not max his poison skills. :)

I like your idea of flayering with a poison nec. Aren't they annoying though, with their blow-darts or spitballs, whatever they shoot with their straws ? Which monsters can be immune there ?
I should just invest some more time in the hide-behind-minion skill, that is, after all, what the minions are for. :)

[phool]

In classic your necro's skill trees should probably look something like

20 pdagger
20 pexplosion
20 pnova
~10 lower resist
1 pre reqs
1 bone armour optionally
1 clay golem optionally (+1 golem mastery optionally)
^~lvl 78
1 revive optionally
rest in CE

This should amount to around 2.7k listed pnova damage and a -60 LR, over 3.5k with top gear. At your level you should be managing about 1.5k with a -45-50 LR. Between 7 wasted points in decrep and the str to wear silks a remake might be a good idea. A poison nec isn't a build that's able to pwn in classic p8 however godly your setup though. You'll want a blizz or hdin for that =/

edit:realised you were listing skills at values after +skills. Maybe try and shop a better wand, just a magic +2 necro wand with 2-3 pnova automod and 20 fcr, that should help a bit.

[struikje]

edit:realised you were listing skills at values after +skills. Maybe try and shop a better wand, just a magic +2 necro wand with 2-3 pnova automod and 20 fcr, that should help a bit.

I think he'll have a hard time finding such a wand :D.

I haven't made one in classic (yet), so I can't help you any further :D

[chants]

You can't get +poison nova on wands, or any level 30 skill in classic.
I forgot to add, hell cows with only yourself in the game are a breeze, for poison necro with corpse explosion.

I think I was only able to get my damage to 2300 poison? With my +skill items on. I think I had +5 total added. (Don't forget magefist add a skill to corpse explosion [it is a fire skill!])

[phool]

Sorry for bad advice, I had no idea. Good to know next time I try to sell a wand and ppl say 'nn I need bs' :tongue:

[chants]

Yeah, in classic bs is bone spear not spirit, when I first played classic I didn't know either.

[phool]

I meant, I've sold wands with +bone spear but had them refused on the grounds they weren't bone spirit.

Did the necro get any better? You may end up reduced to an exploder with maxed LR but it might be quite fun to pvp on against people who don't bother with poison stack, wearing blinkbats irathras etc.

[fredsta54]

You can't get +poison nova on wands, or any level 30 skill in classic.
I forgot to add, hell cows with only yourself in the game are a breeze, for poison necro with corpse explosion.

I think I was only able to get my damage to 2300 poison? With my +skill items on. I think I had +5 total added. (Don't forget magefist add a skill to corpse explosion [it is a fire skill!])

there is a pala scepter gives + to foh ;)



Fred