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DTtheBlackMage
04-01-2008, 05:39
what weapon is better personally i say finity but i had huge debate today why concetration would do better then conviction yes higher brings it out but im not pvpin
Latex Glove
04-01-2008, 06:00
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Infinity
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Whatever makes you feel better, really. If you have maxed Corpse Explosion, use Infinity, as it will boost such a skill as much as Amplify Damage does. If not, use Pride if you wish.
I personally would use Infinity for area clears, and perhaps use Pride if I was only hunting bosses.
That is, of course, if I were rich enough for such lovely, overpowered items.
infinity....so many discussions already about this though.....the horse has been kicked to a pulp already lol
(Oh, and if you do use both, then put the pride in a nice scythe, it'll make you look great)
DTtheBlackMage
04-01-2008, 06:22
^ good idea i was going to do that with infinity with with ca pride might be made if ikeep my summoner i'm in process of makin shock summoner druid see if its funner then good ol fishy
Bah, eth "Obedience" Thresher FTW!
(Just kidding. Although I made one of these last night and am really impressed with it. I want to try running some bosses on the weekend with my Fishy, just to see how much they squeal when my Merc pokes them for 5K+ damage and 40% CB.)
DTtheBlackMage
04-01-2008, 07:09
obidence is really hard to find i might make one of thsoe to
Moe the Barkeep
04-01-2008, 07:28
Bah, eth "Obedience" Thresher FTW!
(Just kidding. Although I made one of these last night and am really impressed with it. I want to try running some bosses on the weekend with my Fishy, just to see how much they squeal when my Merc pokes them for 5K+ damage and 40% CB.)
I have one made in an etheral great poleaxe. It rocks, takes down bosses faster than some players. :thumbsup:
obidence is really hard to find i might make one of thsoe to
Not too bad, I think, to make. Most of the runes for it can be found in NM/Hell or from bad forges. The ethereal polearm might be the hardest piece to find, and I ended up trading for one and socketing it myself for 5 sockets (thanks Larzuk), but it was well worth it. I had tried running Pits for eth Threshers/Giant Threshers for 2 weeks to no avail. I should've made one of these long ago. This is a serious beatstick and I love the stats on it. Just about perfect for a Merc, and very good for a Fishymancer, because you're casting Amp all the time. With Amp in effect, he should be getting up to 10K damage per poke. I wonder what he would get with a "Fortitude" on...
Moe the Barkeep
04-01-2008, 10:02
Yeah, the runes are pretty basic ones, nothing expensive. I made 3 so far, 2 threshers and 1 GP, all etheral. Gonna hoard them. :grin:
The only minor problem I have with Obedience is the cold damage, shatters some corpses. Otherwise it would be perfect.
Eilo Rytyj
04-01-2008, 13:33
Meh, the Cold Damage isn't that big a deal. It means a little extra enemy slowing for you, which means more crowd control. Like you don't already have enough as a Summoner... Plus a lot of the monsters in Hell are Cold Immune, so they're immune to shattering. I've gotten to the point where I don't care if there are any Cold Mages among my ranks; it's far too annoying to sort through to unsummon them.
I still end up with more than enough corpses for whatever needs I have. You don't need every corpse, one or two lost here and there doesn't matter if everything drops in a matter of seconds anyway.
You can use both. :grin:
Infinity -> merc
Pride -> iron golem
Beast -> U
Thats one hell of a team. Just be carefull the irongolem doesnt die.:wink3: :laughing:
If you use Skeleton Mages, then definitely Infinity. A might merc with a conviction aura on top of that will work wonders for both skeleton types.
nicro tower
04-01-2008, 17:59
Infinity -> merc
Pride -> iron golem
Beast -> U
Thats one hell of a team. Just be carefull the irongolem doesnt die.:wink3: :laughing:
oh my god... that would be some leet damage right there...
bruticus
04-01-2008, 20:39
i heart obedience. cheap and very effective .. the 40%CB without any Ber runes? sign me up.
I <3 Obedience too. Using an eth Thresher one on my Fishy merc, he does a great job.
I'll replace it with Infinity if I get around to it and have the wealth - being a mage user, I'd like to have an aura that helps them too, and makes my CE more lethal. Pride only helps the merc's/skel's melee attacks. It has no Crushing Blow. Infinity seems to offer more overall, and a more balanced contribution. CB, lower defense, lower resists. Yum.
DTtheBlackMage
05-01-2008, 06:56
everyone keeps talking bout pride i have bramble eth andys n finity what would be better obidence or pride?
Best probably would be "Infinity" overall. Ethereal "Obedience" makes your Merc into an incredible physical-damage powerhouse of his own, mangling and killing anything he comes across, but it doesn't really help out your skellies. Both "Pride" and "Infinity" will offer a lot for your skellies, who are the real meat and potatoes of your army. But for me, considering I haven't found legit runes to make myself a "Pride" or "Infinity" (and I'm working mostly with self-found or lower runes I trade for), eth "Obedience" is wonderful, short of an eth Tombreaver or something. If I did find or make legit HRs to make either a "Pride" or "Infinity," I'd make the one available to me and move the "Obedience" to another char.
^^ And out of those 2, via cubing and finding, you'd make yourself an Infinity far sooner than you'd get to a Pride, as a single Cham is 4 Ber... even trading for Bnet dupes, an Infinity is arguably easier to assemble than Pride.
with my infinity my merc still owns pretty much anything with a few pokes......
It's one of the more expensive dupewords out there. I would hope that it would pwn...
I think it all comes down to your merc. In all respects, he is your summoner's most important minion. With pride, you are slapping him across the face with absolutely no on wep ed%. Infinity on the other hand, has massive ed%, which can be multiplied with off wep ed% such as fort for absolutely massive damage.
newerest
05-01-2008, 22:23
No one has even mention that conviction lowers enemy defence by a LOT.
It increases your skeleton's damage over time to be able to hit more often, and that certainly adds up.
Mad Mantis
06-01-2008, 15:04
No one has even mention that conviction lowers enemy defence by a LOT.
This is really only important when it comes to battles against Bosses. Against all other minions the Skellies have really good AR. It is still important, but only when your main concern is battle against Bosses.
This is really only important when it comes to battles against Bosses. Against all other minions the Skellies have really good AR. It is still important, but only when your main concern is battle against Bosses.
I remember you mentioned this one time when I asked about a Blessed Aim Merc. I took a look at a Necro Pet Calculator, ran some numbers, and it seems that skeletons' AR is based off of the Necro character's level in addition to skill levels, so they do end up with nice AR.
You might also consider that if you're ever doing baal-runs you will end up with a paladin in your party making your pride useless.
Then again, I very rarely meet anyone that actually cares about anything during those runs...
And yes, I'm one of those summoners that summons a few minions(5-6) and cast curses instead of sitting around leeching and gets the "Noob" comments in my face :sad2:
I'll go with Infinity on mine since I think the overall effect of boosting both mages and skellies is worth more to me then a "just" another damage aura.
Then again, I very rarely meet anyone that actually cares about anything during those runs...
And yes, I'm one of those summoners that summons a few minions(5-6) and cast curses instead of sitting around leeching and gets the "Noob" comments in my face :sad2:
To teach ignorant pubbies a lesson, cast the modified form of Corpse Explosion on them: Player Explosion. When their precious Hammerdins and Lite Sorcs die in a fiery pop, they'll know who's boss. :thumbsup:
Latex Glove
07-01-2008, 11:35
Another thing to note is that Infinity is likely a much more beneficial/flexible Runeword than Pride, as you can then transfer the Infinity polearm to your Sorceress', Assassin's, or Amazon's mercenary.
Unless you are somehow rich enough that you can create Prides and Infinities whenever you wish.
and it is usually much more beneficial to everybody in a multiplayer game as well.....
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