Lite/Nova sorc hybrid?

[zooply]

I was just wondering if it would be a worthwhile idea to combine the 2 builds into one for PvP. After all, nova is a synergy to lightning anyways. You could do an eschuta's setup, but with nova's damage you'd need infinity for it to be worth anything. Anyways........ (this is just me modifying the guides already in the library btw)

Skills:

20 lightning
20 nova
20 lightning mastery
20 telekinesis
1 warmth
1 thunderstorm
1 energy shield
0-1 into chilling armor (depends on gear)
Rest into chain lightning/charged bolt

Stats: (the usual)

Dexterity: None
Strength: Enough for gear
Vitality: 100
Energy: Rest here

Gear: Griffon's, Infinity, Viper, Arach, Magefist

For the 117 bp, you'll need 22 fcr from your jewelry. So you could go with a 12+ fcr ammy & 10 fcr ring, or 10 on each piece.

Switch: Not sure. You could go with a nice memory staff, a CtA staff, or a CtA flail with a lidless. If you go with a memory/CtA staff, try and get one with chilling armor.

Basically I guess this would be an infinity lite sorc with just a different synergy maxed (I didn't see any infinity lite sorc guides in the library). A problem I see is of course even with optimal gear, you could only fit in one SoJ. If you prefer, you could put the remaining synergy points for lightning into ES for more defense.

Thoughts?

[zooply]

I am thinking I may go ahead and try building something like this. I'm just curious if you guys think it's worth the time to try it out.

[Lizardking]

Nova isnt that powerfull these days, i got the same setup @ skills Only got Chain lighting maxed full and nova is doin 1 K damage mayb... Waste of time if you ask me

[zooply]

Nova isnt that powerfull these days, i got the same setup @ skills Only got Chain lighting maxed full and nova is doin 1 K damage mayb... Waste of time if you ask me

Well, with optimal gear my nova should hit around 2.5k. I'm of course going to be relying on the -res from conviction and the rest of my gear so my nova packs a nice punch.

I did find this thread here though

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=578025&highlight=charged+bolt

I am just messing around with the stats and gear a little cause I have some concerns

- Just how well will TS do for me in PvP?
- Would lightning be more valuable than TS in PvP for this build?
- How about maxing charged bolt as a secondary?
- On that link they mention that you'd need a strong ES since the build lacks any blocking. Would just maxed telekinesis be good enough? (with optimum gear I'd reach lvl 20 ES, giving me 75 absorb)

[sirpoopsalot]

I don't play PvP, so this is mostly educated guesses:

- Overall, I think you're going to be in for a rough time against some/many enemies. Nova is an up-close-and-personal spell, you won't be able to block/avoid (m)any attacks, and sorcs are fragile. I think that a highly mobile BvC or even bowazon could eat you up fairly easily... not to mention a few other builds that I don't know of (with my lack of PvP knowledge).

- TS is (almost) always worth at least single point for PvP - it's an auto-hit/auto-cast attack, so it's essentially free damage for a single-point investment, and it's easy to cast it at the start of a battle and forget it. Of course, you can always find an orb that grants TS and use that (prebuff) instead of spending points. I don't know how well extra points will do, they may - or may not - be worth it. I would suspect they aren't.

- I think without a shield that 75% ES may even be a little low, but I don't know for sure. Open Wounds will be dangerous against you with all the points you'll have in Energy, so increasing your ES/Energy might actually be a bad idea if it means you have less life.

- I think maintaining your distance with Lightning could be a little better, since it'll give you a little more space & time to protect your weaknesses (fragility and no-block). However, conviction has a short radius, as well as a relatively long time to activate, so maybe that wouldn't work after all.

- I suspect CB is too slow-moving to be useful. Most people can simply run/teleport away from it if you attack from a distance, and up close Nova is sure to be better anyways.



all in all, I'd have to say I'm skeptical. You'll likely have some glaring weaknesses that most good players can exploit.

[jesterlolz]

I'm actually writing a guide for my nova/light hybrid sorceress. She's more suited to 1v1 dueling, not public dueling. Some people you can do better using a nova sorceress gear (infinity etc.), and some people you can do better using a 142 fhr/117+ fcr damage gear, so unless your planning on often switching your gear, I'd do more private dueling. A straight up nova, or a straight up light sorc works better in public duels.

If you want to be as cool as me, you can also use max block.

I'd say go for it, if you want a basic layout / a preview of the guide, I can message it to you.

[zooply]

SirPoop:

- I don't know either. True, with nova I'll have to jump up in people's face. But I *may* be able to play it like a nec's nova, as in leaving a few for them to run into and scampering off. Not sure how well I'll be eaten by melee.

- Well without the conviction I wouldn't bother considering over 1 pt into TS. But with it...... I'm not sure =P

- I haven't a clue on ES either. Perhaps I'll put a small topic in the PvP thread asking how well 75 ES with no block would work.

- Just how short are we talking about here? I assume by the activate time you mean it takes a bit for the aura to show up on them? Hmmmm...... well that may be a problem for the nova, but perhaps I'll still be ok with all the -res without conviction for the lightning. But ya, that's what I was going for with the lightning. It would give me a nice distance spell, plus it has higher damage than TS.

- Well for a synergy I had to choose either CB or CL. I thought CB might be a nice area effect spell like teeth. CL though apparently can be used to take out minions (druids & necs), so that's always a thought.

Jester: Funny thing is I was curious and thought about asking you for how you set up yours. I saw a post by you somewhere while searching around, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you mention using Crescent Moon? How's that working out for you with nova? I may try the build I mentioned here though, as kind of an experiment. Just checking here first, as I don't want to find out so & so part of the build is lame and I would have known had I asked. =P

[jesterlolz]

I dunno, I sorta forgot about my old posts, but I think crescent moon would be a viable option.

That might be a good medium between infinity/no shield, or the gear with a small amount of -res. However, I think its more of a poor-man's option on nl instead of an infinity (which can be difficult to find on ladder).

[zooply]

Ok now you really lost me lol

How do you do enough damage with your nova + have max block if you don't use Crescent for the -res? I could see -55 with 5/5'd griffs, 5/5'd armor, 5/5'd weapon, and 5/5'd jmod.

[jesterlolz]

I don't see why everybody says nova must have tons of -res on a nova sorceress. Admittedly, I do like to have a good amount of -res on my sorc, but its not necessary. Against windies and es sorceresses, I make a point not to have much -res, but more straight up damage and fhr. -Res doesn't work against cyclone armor, and es is unaffected by resistances.

Also, some types of characters, when you duel good ones, have so many resistances stacked up, its nearly unnecessary to have -resistances, and so max block and high damage gear works well.

However, these duels do take longer. You must take the advantage of nova's area of effect. I really like using nova against barbarians. If they accidentally make a bad telewhirl, and whirlwind past me- if I go to the side and nova, all of them hit. Lightning is more powerful and more useful when you know you can hit with it, but nova is better for small damaging hits.

[zooply]

Well I figured you were using it for major damage =P

It sounds like you've got it to do the things lightning lacks, such as smacking up barbs that miss, and using it as an AoE spell that's harder to avoid than regular lightning. Assuming here so I may be wrong lol. Anyways I really look forward to seeing your guide when you get it finished :grin:

[jesterlolz]

Well I figured you were using it for major damage =P

It sounds like you've got it to do the things lightning lacks, such as smacking up barbs that miss, and using it as an AoE spell that's harder to avoid than regular lightning. Assuming here so I may be wrong lol. Anyways I really look forward to seeing your guide when you get it finished :grin:

Nope, you are 100% right on :grin: .