Questions about Fools

[bearlovewife]

For WW, which ar should we refer? It only shows the ar of first claw we equip. BUt I was told the ar of WW is calculated seperately just show the first one, is that true?

And since first claw decide our trap IAS, e.g. I have a chaos and a fool, should I equip chaos first, and then equip fool(assume fool is not "very fast") to reach faster trap cast? what about the ww speed?(now one is 4frame, one is not)

the last question is, as for those low dmg fools, why ppl like them? even if they have high ar, more easily to hit others, but their dmg low

[mephiztophelez]

the fools should be equipped as your primary claw, this is because the first hit-check of a ww-sequence is only for the primary claw.

low damage fools: most of a ww-sins damage comes from Venom and Open Wounds, a high damage fools, while nice, isn't 100% necessary. the ar boost however, is very nice regardless.

[bearlovewife]

i have a chaos and a "very slow fool", if i equip chaos first and then fool, the trap cast speed is OK. but reverse, it will be very slow, so we also need the fool has good IAS? kind be hard....

[sweetalmonds]

i have a chaos and a "very slow fool", if i equip chaos first and then fool, the trap cast speed is OK. but reverse, it will be very slow, so we also need the fool has good IAS? kind be hard....

How can claws be very slow to an assassin? Make sure your not looking at your fool's through the eyes of a barb or somehing. Btw Primary claw is on the side of your gloves and yeah the guy above is right.:thumbsup:

edit: i mean above above which is meph

[bearlovewife]

How can claws be very slow to an assassin? Make sure your not looking at your fool's through the eyes of a barb or somehing. Btw Primary claw is on the side of your gloves and yeah the guy above is right.:thumbsup:

edit: i mean above above which is meph



I know the trap cast speed is decided by Primary claw ias and the average of base speed of 2 claws(e.g. if put chaos on boot side, the 35ias on chaos doesn't work a little for trap cast) . So if equip fool on glove side, then we will need a high IAS bonus fool so that to reach high trap cast speed, which is pretty hard since 40ias+fool+good other mods claw are rare.

and i think many ppl still think ar and dmg of WW are calculated separately...this is true in 1.10, not sure in 1.11

[bearlovewife]

[QUOTE=mephiztophelez;6093372]the fools should be equipped as your primary claw, this is because the first hit-check of a ww-sequence is only for the primary claw.QUOTE]


for WW, assume u r right, ar depends only one the glove side claw, then once hit, the dmg is glove side or boot side?

[mephiztophelez]

[QUOTE=mephiztophelez;6093372]for WW, assume u r right, ar depends only one the glove side claw, then once hit, the dmg is glove side or boot side?
for the first hit-check, only the primary claw CAN hit.

for each subsequent hit-check in the ww-sequence, both claws get a chance of hitting. their ar and damage is calculated independently of each other.

[TienJe]

for the first hit-check, only the primary claw CAN hit.

for each subsequent hit-check in the ww-sequence, both claws get a chance of hitting. their ar and damage is calculated independently of each other.
we're not really sure about that at this point in time. some testing that max did seems to show that its not totally independent, nor is it totally dependent on the primary claw. he has a video of his tests somewhere on these forums.

we were hypothesizing that it had something to do with which claw was being used to set the next hit-check frequency (which alternates when theres no target), but we haven't done any more testing to conclude either way.