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vknez
05-12-2007, 00:27
i made calculations with:
uped bartucs (runic -30) shaeled with 4x ias from bos werebear form assasin. calculator shows 4 frame. but in game assa shifted in bear clearly attacks slower then my true druid bear which have 4 frames attack.

without bos attack speed is like she is frozen or something. dont understand what i have calculated wrong. or calculator is not right

any help?

stephan
05-12-2007, 01:22
On the AB someone mentioned that assassins wielding claws have a different animation speed from all other classes and that the wereform calculator got this wrong, the real attack speed is slower. (as a result of this 2 fpa is not possible as well)

Since I cannot link here, PM me for more details.

stephan
07-12-2007, 00:55
Actually the guy who tested it showed 3 different images for the attack animation.

stephan
07-12-2007, 01:14
I'm in game with it right now. Theres only 2 different animations, a backswing and a frontswing. The reason your tester thought there were 3 different animations is because there are 2 different backswing animations. Every time you attack, it randomly chooses between using the left or right claw. Viewed in 2 frame intervals you can't tell that these are seperate attacks and it looks like 3 different animations.

Instead, what really matters is looking at the HP bar of the enemy; it drops precisely every 2 frames.
Actually no. There are 3 different animations for a swing with one arm. He doesn't just use tests BTW, he backs it up with data from the gamefiles. The wereform calc uses incorrect charspeed for Assassins with claws.

If wereform calc is correct it does also not explain why vknez is seeing discrepancies at slower speeds.

sirhemp
10-12-2007, 09:15
ive been told 2 frame is atainable in were bear form jsut has no dmg
with max bos, and runic talon of quikness shael shael i didnt believe it either but it seemed to be slightly faster than my fc bear but no where neer the dmg :D

vknez
10-12-2007, 16:22
yesterday i recorded assasin with fraps and tried various weapon combinations (bos and fade also). after that i opened with windows media player version 9. you can watch movie frame by frame and runic with 20 ias and 4x bos active is 6 frame (4 frame calculated on wereform central). 40 ias runic and bos active is 4 frame attack, 5 frame with fade

iomanip
10-12-2007, 16:59
might be completely off, but:

i think assa attack speed is calculated from the mean from the Weapon base speed, so if youre using a -30 and a -20 then it would be -25 in total... makes sense?... no...

peace