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Arachanox
24-11-2007, 20:17
I know there aren't many people like this at all, but I think ULLD would be an interesting experience. One foreseeable problem is the fact that people would be Hell rushed just to gain all those extra skill points. But, any people interested in some ULLD matches (without any skill points from quests?)

jakotaco
24-11-2007, 20:37
ULLD ?

think most realms use the term VLLD for level 9 duels. And it is a pretty big business with many active players and some very impressive chars.

Arachanox
24-11-2007, 20:55
Oh, very? I thought it was ultra. Well, regardless, I didn't know there was a large backing behind it. In all the dueling servers I go to, it's always level 30 and up.

Zangeif
24-11-2007, 23:54
It's fairly popular but everyone is Hell rushed.

Iron man dueling can also be fun. You level up to 9 with other people in game and then duel with only the items you find. It's best if done on HC.

mephiztophelez
25-11-2007, 07:07
And it is a pretty big business with many active players and some very impressive chars.

yarr. best one i ever saw was a level 9 Sacrifice necro. OMFG could that thing hit HARD.

some super-twinked out level 9's can deal out 1500+ damage a hit.

think about that for a second......

boyscouT
25-11-2007, 09:35
Iron man dueling can also be fun. You level up to 9 with other people in game and then duel with only the items you find. It's best if done on HC.

that sounds amazingly fun!! :thumbsup:

Zangeif
26-11-2007, 06:54
yarr. best one i ever saw was a level 9 Sacrifice necro. OMFG could that thing hit HARD.

some super-twinked out level 9's can deal out 1500+ damage a hit.

think about that for a second......

Only 2 level 9s can do 1.5k max.

A might sac pally or a max TS sin. Both aren't very good builds despite their high damage.

Yeah, iron mans are a lot of fun. It's best to make them melee only. Otherwise hammer sins, holy fire/prayer pallys, and poison zons are too overpowered

mystified
26-11-2007, 07:18
try psn dagger nec with bone shield XD
I am not into lv 9 due to it being more expensive and harder than lv 18. but I ;ve seen some good kickers from lv 9 onwards

DIEnamic
26-11-2007, 09:10
Only 2 level 9s can do 1.5k max.

A might sac pally or a max TS sin. Both aren't very good builds despite their high damage.

Yeah, iron mans are a lot of fun. It's best to make them melee only. Otherwise hammer sins, holy fire/prayer pallys, and poison zons are too overpowered

dont forget cold arrow zons :sad2:

Baranor
26-11-2007, 10:53
Level 9 sac-mancers are not to be trifled with. With a level 9 sac on the weapon and AMP damage for the win they hit just as hard, and more consistently, as a level 9 paladin with sacrifice. On top of that they can invest all their points except for one in Bone Armor, giving them a 100 pt recastable HP stack, and err, then they have some skillpoints leftover for Teeth *giggles*

yarr. best one i ever saw was a level 9 Sacrifice necro. OMFG could that thing hit HARD.

some super-twinked out level 9's can deal out 1500+ damage a hit.

think about that for a second......

Zangeif
26-11-2007, 16:12
Yeah sac necros are one of the top vlld builds, but if they don't run away to recast I think jabbers have the upper hand.

Sac scepters can have level 11 charges btw.

Baranor
26-11-2007, 17:36
Ooeeh. That's nasty. You can quite easily double-up with a paladin with a level 9-11 sac weapon and a shield for a sac-a-smiter backed-up by a level 9 might. Alternatively you can max out Holy Fire and Fire resistance. Coupled with a +3 HF scepter you have a nice secondary attack to use in conjunction with a throwing weapon (or just running around and pulsing someone to death... takes a while though :D)


We used to run a very cheap anti-pk build, all you needed was some socketted gear and 13 p rubies. Pruby the armor/helmet, use a 6-sock weapon (crys sword or something), pruby that for 25-30 fire damage, max HF and as many points into fire res as you had spare, 3-4 pts in zeal and zeal away. Although not that powerfull, it has a lot of life for the level, and most of the st00pid 2-handed charger idiots didn't have fire resistance. With 800 life and a good zeal it was quite possible to end their life there and then. Plus, if you lost, you didn't loose anything expensive ^_^

crawlingdeadman
27-11-2007, 22:28
... and 13 p rubies. ...

you mean flawed rubies.

NewForumBloke
29-11-2007, 01:14
I think Baranor must be talking about a lvl 18+ pala since he's discussing the use of zeal, which wouldnt be available to a lvl 9 lol. SO i do think he meant to say p ruby's :laugh:

Baranor
29-11-2007, 10:40
Did I forget to mention that? Oooeeeh... level 18 obviously. Staying on topic is not my strong side. Hahaha.


I'd not try below level 18, as the damage would be far too low anyway. At 18 you could get some 100 dam per zeal hit which is enough to damage people.

NewForumBloke
29-11-2007, 20:53
As fun as urs sounds Baranor, i dont know if it could stand up to the other 18 duelers out there. Good lvl 18 Zealots hit 1k+ themselves and iirc have max block. Theyre rather scary some of em...

Still though, your sounds fun enough to give it an ol' college try lol, pretty sure i have some rubies around :smile:

Zangeif
30-11-2007, 03:55
18 zealers hit 1.2k with 50% crit o_O

Pezmaster
30-11-2007, 06:58
are there any websites/channels to look into where people organize vlld and lld?

Uncle_Mike
30-11-2007, 08:41
are there any websites/channels to look into where people organize vlld and lld?

Websites: google for it
Channels: no idea :smiley:

Zangeif
01-12-2007, 00:07
op lldpk on east

mystified
04-12-2007, 00:41
18 zealers hit 1.2k with 50% crit o_O
assuming full set of cahrms with cleg. darn rich :(
still struggling with charms...they are impossible to get!!!

edit: you meant 1.2 k on LCS, or 1.2k when crit? if former..whooping 2.4K zeal. lol

Zangeif
04-12-2007, 04:42
I mean 1.2k max - 2.4k crit.

Maybe I'm a little off but it's around there.

Baranor
04-12-2007, 13:06
The original idea was not to stand up against serious duellers, it was to kill off those pesky 2-handed level 12-18 chargers that bothered people in the sewers etcetera without spending so much as a dime yourself. With 2-handed chargers, occasionally they get lucky. Its always painfull to see a fully decked out level 18 go, whether you are rich or not, and the P-Ruby fire zealot was cheap and expendable :laugh:

As fun as urs sounds Baranor, i dont know if it could stand up to the other 18 duelers out there. Good lvl 18 Zealots hit 1k+ themselves and iirc have max block. Theyre rather scary some of em...

Still though, your sounds fun enough to give it an ol' college try lol, pretty sure i have some rubies around :smile: