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Hey.
For the first time in my life i made a Hammerdin!
But he only deals around 3,6k dmg?!
Lvl 75
Skills:
Vigor: 17
Blessed Aim: 13
Hammer: 30 (max)
Concentration: 26 (max)
Holy Shield: 30 (max)
+ Combat skills: 10
+ All skills: 6
Items:
Shako with Ptopaz
Enigma Dusk
Wizzy non-sock
HoZ non-sock
Low WaterWalk
Trang Gloves
Wilhelms Pride Belt (^^)
Fcr ring
Nagel 28
2 Pc + 8fcr + 18@ amulet
17/16 Druid Torch
Resistance in Hell:
80 Fire
75 Light
75 Cold
75 Poison
Stats with current gear:
129 Str
105 Dex (71% block)
399 Vita (1648 life)
34 Energy (553 mana)
78 Fcr
I think it all looks pretty good. I'm still looking for Arach, but does iy make such a huge difference in damage? Or do i just need to level and upgrade Blessed Aim and Vigor more?
Why are you using blessed hammer without concentration? :smiley: Select Conc as your right side skill, hammers on left and check your dmg again :wink3:
You should have invested more into synergies rather than holy shield. That may explain a lot of your low damage since you only have lvl 11 vigor and lvl 7 blessed aim.
Hey.
For the first time in my life i made a Hammerdin!
But he only deals around 3,6k dmg?!
Lvl 75
Skills:
Vigor: 17
Blessed Aim: 13
Hammer: 30 (max)
Concentration: 26 (max)
Holy Shield: 30 (max)
+ Combat skills: 10
+ All skills: 6
Items:
Shako with Ptopaz
Enigma Dusk
Wizzy non-sock
HoZ non-sock
Low WaterWalk
Trang Gloves
Wilhelms Pride Belt (^^)
Fcr ring
Nagel 28
2 Pc + 8fcr + 18@ amulet
17/16 Druid Torch
Resistance in Hell:
80 Fire
75 Light
75 Cold
75 Poison
Stats with current gear:
129 Str
105 Dex (71% block)
399 Vita (1648 life)
34 Energy (553 mana)
78 Fcr
I think it all looks pretty good. I'm still looking for Arach, but does iy make such a huge difference in damage? Or do i just need to level and upgrade Blessed Aim and Vigor more?
Remake your pally. max out Blessed Aim and Vigor. When casting hammers (left mouse), always have Concentration as your aura (right mouse).
No offence but I always wonder how people can get nice items without having such basic knowledge of the game. :rolleyes:
Senshiki
19-11-2007, 02:48
Remake your pally. max out Blessed Aim and Vigor. When casting hammers (left mouse), always have Concentration as your aura (right mouse).
No offence but I always wonder how people can get nice items without having such basic knowledge of the game. :rolleyes:
Remake? He is 10 points away from maxing out both synergies, why remake?
Keep in mind he is putting what is shown on skills tab, not what his hard points are. Since he has 6 to all skills, he only has 11 vigor and 7 blessed aim, making 22 til max synergies.
Which means he has to be level 97 to complete a hammerdin build... with the waste of 19 skill points that put into holy sheild.. which can be use in other much useful skills.
Holy shield is very useful. It's just that he shouldn't have put that many points in it until his damage skills are maxed.
DayDream
19-11-2007, 05:11
Right, with that said, do remake your hammerdin and max out hammer and its syns.
Hammer left, conc right.
Rest you can pump into holy shield
Do i really have to remake?!
I maxed Holyshield first, because i thought i would have a better idea on how much dex i needed for max block.
And yes, i am using concentration while hammering (left hammer, right conc) >.<
Mooranie
19-11-2007, 17:14
no need to remake, but the main idea is that you should have maxed out synergies first. He's stil viable since you have reach this level. However, yes, he isn't pwning as much as you could have wished, but just maxed the synergies next (would time a lot of time) and he'll pwn in no time.
Okay :)
As i still have 2 ancients quests left, i just need to advance to level 95.
How long would it take if you know? And should i baalrun or diarun? :)
zarirazz
19-11-2007, 17:21
well, if you're confident of taking your character to level 97 where all your synergies are maxed, there's no need to remake.
i still think with all the points put into synergies up to level ~85 will boost your damage by another thousand or two, definitely enough for pvm..
too bad that the "synergy" you didn't max wasn't concentration since it'll be boosted by +skills=)
too bad that the "synergy" you didn't max wasn't concentration since it'' be boosted by +skills=)
I don't understand?
zarirazz
19-11-2007, 17:32
well, blessed hammer damage can be increased by;
1.points in the skill itself and +skills from gear
2.hard points in its synergies ie ba/vigor
3.the level of concentration aura (not really an offical synergy hence the "..")
points 1 & 3 will give you higher damage output with higher skill levels. the former being the raw blessed hammer damage while the latter the aura that provides %enhanced damage bonus to that raw damage.
hope this explains=P
Still don't get it.. Whatever..
But what's fastest? Baalrunning or Diarunning?
And i'm lvl 80 now, which means 4.4k hammers :)
Mooranie
19-11-2007, 18:44
I'd say it belong to you. I'd says brun because they are easyier and safer. (normally no oblivion knight or 1 kill *****)
you dont need to remake at all, u just wont have all synergies till a bit later than you could of had. I believe the reason that your dmg is so low is because your not using concentration and hammers together??? this is the only thing I can think of because with your setup you should be doing atleast 8k dmg. Make sure youve got concentration selected on your right side and put hammers on primary attack.
4.5 k with concentration now!
btw lvl 95 aint that easy. up to 90 is easy. 92-93 is about 60 baal runs 93-94 roughly 120 baal runs 94-95 about 300+ baal runs
BobTheWarrior
19-11-2007, 20:52
It will take you dozens of hours of mind-numbing baal running to get to level 97. I believe it took me 4+ hours of straight baal running to get from 90 - 91 in a well organized eight player game. You could remake your pally and be into the 80's with maxed synergies in less than 4 if you're of the mind to do it.
Your choice. Post in the Player Matchup or similar thread for help rushing, or better yet try to find an uber-leveling game you can leech in.
mystified
19-11-2007, 21:28
it took me enitre ladder 3 to lv my barb to lv 92..
ofc not much of baalruns instead I was staying in trav but you cna see where this is going.
gl to lv 97. you will need that. if by some off chance you lagged or something happend and you end up dead..well..thats few hours well spent...gone!
I'd rather re-make as it will boost your dmg and allow you to make better char overall in terms of dmg output. Doesn't take too long either. (what, 3~4 hours to 80?)
Okay. This char is not meant for pvp. If i take him to lets say lvl 90, will he be good enough and able to do chaos sanctuary in 8player games?
mystified
20-11-2007, 09:15
get p torch and anni, and you are probably better using 1 x 10FCR ring and Hoto. Also some pc skills. after maxing one synergy (probably vigorby the looks?) at lv 90, you will do reasonably well in chaos. 10~11K+ dmg is still easily reachable. so yeah, he will to 8 player game. just give him some nice gears :)
He is 84 with maxed vigor now.
Yeah, i should prob. get p torch and more skills, as he is so survivable (is that a word?)
just keep in mind that in all those points wasted on holy shield (1 hard point is enough with plenty of plus skills for the block bonus). You could have place them in resist lightning for +max resist. Also leveling from 1-90 is easy, but to level to 97 is a pain. I really suggest you to remake if you would like to be a "proper build hammerdin".
btw my level 30 lld hammerdin alredy has 2.4k hammer damage @ 125fcr.
intimatetouch
22-11-2007, 02:00
u dont really need to spend any skill points in any elemental resist. Mine is just fine and dandy without it. Eventually you'll find better gear if you're gonna MF with that hdin and you'll eventually just be maxed out no problems. Get a Mara's if u can.
u dont really need to spend any skill points in any elemental resist. Mine is just fine and dandy without it. Eventually you'll find better gear if you're gonna MF with that hdin and you'll eventually just be maxed out no problems. Get a Mara's if u can.
Guess you don't pvp do you? :P
Putting 2 hard points into a resist aura (mostly lightning resist) gives you a +1 MAX resist in that element. So with 20 hard points spend into the aura, you'll get +10 max resist, increasing your resist from 75 to 85. Since you're a pure hammerdin, you should have plenty of skill points left.
In pvp having max resist is a BIG adventage when against lightning trappers, and many other char that is lightning based.
BTW my hammerdin has enough stacked resist to counter a -300 resist and still have 95 resist if i want to, so resist is not my concern.
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