View Full Version : What is the Pure weakness of bowzon
xJLx Slayer
16-11-2007, 23:09
Okay before You start telling me that almost every character with the correct gear can defeat a bowzon. This is not true I have try many thing. I have a Bvc Barb with.
CoA ber'ed
Nigma
Doom
Beast
Arach
2Raven and Highlord
Magefist
Gore rider
and many other charms. I have a fire sorc with 200 fcr and 22k FB. I have a Palladin with Ebotd. Guess what All this character have such a low chance at losing. I barely win with my Bvc barb. Its like 10-7 for me. My Hdin has a chance because I use charge with Ebotd. My fire cant win I have to rely on Fire Wall.
Dont say that my skill at dueling suck I use my character very very good, nor perfect but damn close. Now before you guys go like what what build is he talking about, then here is the answer. 1-Its a Bowzon with all its stats on Dex, with Titan and SS on switch. Yes this is called a hybrid -_-
Now doesn't anyone believe that they all a little overpowered with Multi Shot and Guid Arrow
Their weakness in my opinion is a ghost or hybridsin, Traps + mb + ww is plenty of stun and d/a/e lock, and they've got shadow master stack to avoid some arrows, and of course the master may cast mb even from of screen.
Also chargers can pose a problem unless you're good at using the ss switch.
Sure guided and multi makes them rather powerful, but the lack of fast tele usually makes up for it I'd say.
xJLx Slayer
16-11-2007, 23:22
Their weakness in my opinion is a ghost or hybridsin, Traps + mb + ww is plenty of stun and d/a/e lock, and they've got shadow master stack to avoid some arrows, and of course the master may cast mb even from of screen.
Also chargers can pose a problem unless you're good at using the ss switch.
Sure guided and multi makes them rather powerful, but the lack of fast tele usually makes up for it I'd say.
You do know that most Ama stay in one spot and shoot the living crap out of you.
You do know that most Ama stay in one spot and shoot the living crap out of you.
... huh?
Can't claim that's what I experience when I duel as either my zon or sin. :cloud9:
DayDream
17-11-2007, 02:28
You do know that most Ama stay in one spot and shoot the living crap out of you.
Whoever loses to this kind of zon is pretty bad then, you know?
Whoever loses to this kind of zon is pretty bad then, you know?
vouch etc.
I'd have to say max block/es/chilling armor sorcs.
xJLx Slayer
17-11-2007, 06:02
Whoever loses to this kind of zon is pretty bad then, you know?
NO way this Amazon is very good. Its actually my freind lol. I know his gear inside out. Here I will tell u
G skull-2 40 15 jewel
Fort
2Raven
Gores
Knockback gloves
T-God
Titan
Faith
SS-Um'ed
All his charm are about Dex and Ar. He has around 500 life. When I duel him the problem is not killing him, but by the time i get to him he spammed soo many arrows that they hit me+knockback to hurt be soo badly.
The reason why I posted it in this topic is because most of you people are Amaon player and know your of weaknesses
yetidiah
17-11-2007, 07:36
what character are you using the most?
DayDream
17-11-2007, 08:10
Lol glass cannon
Don't use fball
use fire BOLT. Alot faster and one hit will definately kill glass.
NewForumBloke
17-11-2007, 10:00
Id like to know as well, and w/e char your using against him does he have max block? Are you gunning straight towards him? Ive never met a zon that sticks in one place and doesnt die by my hand or anyone elses. Every zon that ive run into that has laid me to rest had an annoying Titans+SS switch to block me :undecided: and then either jab me, or switch and GA me to death quickly or soemthing lol.
G skull-2 40 15 jewel
Fort
2Raven
Gores
Knockback gloves
T-God
Titan
Faith
SS-Um'ed
with all respect, that amazon doesn't know what he's doing.
G skull and knockback gloves, overkill anyone? Dual knockback doesn't help anything.
T-God? Unless you are fighting an lightning based char, this is total crap. And even against a lightning based char with a glascannon, this is very debatable.
close to no frw? So he really counts in getting people killed before they reach him.
What about amulet? If it's highlords, or cats eye, he has an ias problem - or a glove problem -, and if not, then what is he using?
xJLx Slayer
17-11-2007, 16:46
with all respect, that amazon doesn't know what he's doing.
G skull and knockback gloves, overkill anyone? Dual knockback doesn't help anything.
T-God? Unless you are fighting an lightning based char, this is total crap. And even against a lightning based char with a glascannon, this is very debatable.
close to no frw? So he really counts in getting people killed before they reach him.
What about amulet? If it's highlords, or cats eye, he has an ias problem - or a glove problem -, and if not, then what is he using?
That his gear for public, but he does have Cat;s eyes. He also has 120 45 and you are absolutely correct. he only chance at defeating people is before they reach him.
I.E. If I use my fire sorc and I do use fireBOLT and firewall because he dies in under 0.222 second to firewall. But by the time I get to him my life from 1213 is down to 210 and I finishes me off easily.
If I use my Palladin if he hits me once me life is half. Dont say that my pally sucks. He has 75% block, he isa hadin but i use him to charge. He has 2k life with no Cta.
Now my barb who is the strongest dueler i have he can probably win, but 5 hits I am dead and i have 6k life 15 def. I use doom.
If you have videos post them if u can
thepandafactor
17-11-2007, 18:03
Hardest to easiest for me:
(Easiest)
ES or Vita Sorcs
Hdin
Necro
Trapper
Wind Druid (50:50 point)
Smiter
Good Hdin
Ghost
BvC (I can almost never win)
(Hardest)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Khdgro_qM
well I have a windy, that I rarely lose to amazons with. but id say the best character against a zon would be a 200fcr fire sorc or trap/ww sin. But like u said in ur original post, any character can kill a zon, its just learning how they duel.
The characters that will do better vs zons are chars that tele fast n dish out good dmg.
MysticDragon
17-11-2007, 21:41
Block Nec #1.
mystified
18-11-2007, 02:03
auradin. :p
to be specific torchadin for wide range and make crap with CoA socked with 2 facets. the pulses are usually strong enough to kill amazons since they lack res department. (depending on gear ofc, but fort using glass canons shouldn't be prob)
Eilo Rytyj
18-11-2007, 05:43
Don't use fball
use fire BOLT. Alot faster and one hit will definately kill glass.
wrong, FBolt and FBall = same casting speed, same travel speed. Test it out, hold right click and switch between the hotkeys. both move same speed.
And if FBolt/Ball are less than slvl45 then FBall does more dmg. It's only when more than slvl45 FBolt/FBall when Bolt does more dmg.
DayDream
18-11-2007, 06:43
wrong, FBolt and FBall = same casting speed, same travel speed. Test it out, hold right click and switch between the hotkeys. both move same speed.
And if FBolt/Ball are less than slvl45 then FBall does more dmg. It's only when more than slvl45 FBolt/FBall when Bolt does more dmg.
Really? Hm.. fbolt looked faster
Why do I often see people switch from bolt to ball in duels? Always thought it was because travel speed
MysticDragon
18-11-2007, 08:12
Really? Hm.. fbolt looked faster
Why do I often see people switch from bolt to ball in duels? Always thought it was because travel speed
2.5 mana cost.
Barcelona
18-11-2007, 08:35
What is the pure weakness of bowzon : Decrep =D yeah i knwo its BM but the OP didnt mention GM :smiley:
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