Best town camper

[The Cow King]

brainstorm plz

Maybe a cheap FoH town gate camper who stands in town only to nk when ppl run out or hope for 1 hit KO when someone is close to gates?

Maby fire hydra sorc? Since hydras stay even after you run to town, you could nk everyone ez at the gates and camp townguarders. Do facets work for hydras?

Summon dudu... although I'm not 2 sure about the bear AR? Idk but does it have hard time hitting palas and such? I do know a badass bear will one hit almost anything. Does pride aura from ur merc transfer to bear even if merc is inside town?

Or is the fissure dudu best?

What else tell ideas pls.

[akumaxxyz]

ww barb with max vita, have also a druid with max oak sage add a might merc with pride = total lame tg its unkillable to boot, wear a bramble too

[lendial]

do you really want to make one? you will have bucketfulls of tomatoes thrown at you :)

facets do not boost hydras as far as i know and the bolts are REALLY slow to be effective. foh will likely be the most anoying effective albiet rather expensive for a pure lamer character.

[MCpl Slackbag]

ive played a hydra sorc, and its great fun... facets wont work with her though. i've also seen those glitch-aura chars, and they maul everything. and summon druids with bramble and edge kick ***...

overall, i'd go with a summon druid if you dont know how to/ dont want to glithc auras

[lendial]

actualy i take it back, glitch firedin would be by far the best, you will floor everyroom until a pal or barb with a kagilion fires/sorv stomps you.

[The Cow King]

y it needs to be able solo so no pala glitch / extra players

And I'd rly like a build that can just sit in town as much as possible so I dont have to take my chances outside.

i had you pegged as a town hugger kind of guy.

:weep:

*hugs superdave*

[lendial]

i guess teddy bear summoner because there is no way they can possibly kill you without some sort of hack or the minion projectile bug. you wont get much kills after the first few times but its still safe.

in terms of instantaneous raw and resistance penatrating dmg, blizz or foh will do it. they will usualy die if they arent prepared and they likely wont change gear just to duel a town hugger.

[superdave]

i had you pegged as a town hugger kind of guy.

[mephiztophelez]

if you just want to annoy the crap out of everyone, a Slow'a'zon will get the job done.

clegs + blackthorns is enough.

although a Riphook bow is also very promising.

[akumaxxyz]

slow is not a annoyance anymore since they fix that perma slow bug. best you can get now is with wraith,slowbelt,cleg,blackhorns.

[yetidiah]

fissure, run out every few seconds cast run back in watch people die

[akumaxxyz]

you still have the risk of dying with a fizzure dru unless you got massive life
ww barb or summon dru no contest

[kavehtabriaz]

200 fcr fire sorc ,1 hits most players unless they sorb.

[DayDream]

Summon druid
Only requires one click while others that have been mentioned needs you to run out and cast.

[yetidiah]

bow zon with hdin friend, hdin kills everyone you camp the gate with GA

[akumaxxyz]

200 fcr fire sorc ,1 hits most players unless they sorb.

you will never kill a decent pvper or even average with 1 fireball

[Romasm]

My vote goes to summondruid 100%, i think this one is good because u can cast the bear whereever u want, whenever u want and it does some serious damage, high life and even more life with maxed oak sage. + U dont even have to be out of town.. Good chance of killing people, zero chance of them killing u. U dont even have to buy him like a merc or revive him from some sour looking zombie

Without worrying about ur block/life/fhr/etc, u can just stand in camp, get as much skills as possible for the Bear. Skillitems, those are most important. +6bearpelt/soj/bk/enigma or maybe even arkaines for cheapasses/arach/skillers/torch/anni/hoto/spirit, who cares about fcr/block/life for ur summoner. This druid only need skilllls. Summon oak, summon bear, when it dies, summon it again. Keep summoning it.. The people in pubs will freak out. NK here, NK there. Some even get owned by a single or 2 blows from that oversized teddy. GG!

[Sechler]

Do something different for god sakes. If you’re gonna make a bm trash character, at least do it with some style.
Make a Valkyrie zon with max mass pts in Decoy, D/E/A, Critical, Penetrate. Then rest in Guided Arrow. I’ve seen some pvm zons that maxed valk and decoy before and the valk was brutal. Although not comparable to a grizzly but more fun I think with guided arrows to back her up.
Or do a open wounds/venom bowasin with max Mindblast and a lvl 45ish shadow. My lvl 25 shadow with bo puts a real hurtin on a lot of avg sorcies that don’t see her coming, not to mention all the dflight nk’s. At lvl 45 she’d be a crazy whore.
Or come up with some crazy kind of max light mastery, max fire mastery, dream, dragon hydra sorc with an infinity pole.
Just throwing out some ideas…none of which are probably as good as the traditional summoner or fire druid, but still could be fun.

[The Cow King]

Do something different for god sakes. If you’re gonna make a bm trash character, at least do it with some style.
Make a Valkyrie zon with max mass pts in Decoy, D/E/A, Critical, Penetrate. -- snip

I did think about uber maxed valk but it hits like 11 fpa and it needs a cruel pike to do any decent dmg. So if you cast it on top of someone most of the time it will only do puny dmg... not to mention the dmg range on war pike is huge. Deadly strike helps heaps though. After some calculations the top dmg that valk could get in case it spawns a cruel war pike is about 10k PvP in case of a max dmg roll and deadly strike ^^

Without cruel war pike the dmg would only be around 2.5k with max dmg roll and DS.

I also though about making the immortal Shadow Warrior with 95% phys / 100% elemental immune, but the claws to make it are just too rare to even be one of a kind on the realms.

I also thought about maxed golem necro but again, it just wont do enough dmg to kill ppl. 60k life Clay Golem with 70% slow would be fun though.

The thing with summon dudus is that they're so dirt cheap to make. Rain > eni, you can just use blue magical items most of the way although getting a good grizzly pelt can be hard.

you will never kill a decent pvper or even average with 1 fireball

Yes you will when the opponent has -100 resists. This char is not for dueling it's for killing the in the most pathetic, despicable way possible. Lame in town until ur opponent is raging dodge then u step outside and FoH him and go back to town. A good dudu bear will one hit BvC if it hits. Same goes for Valk zon but it has a much more wider dmg range than bear.


Or come up with some crazy kind of max light mastery, max fire mastery, dream, dragon hydra sorc with an infinity pole.


Otherwise good but why waste 4 hrs to items that have no effect whatsoever from the traditional hydra camper?

[akumaxxyz]

Yes you will when the opponent has -100 resists. This char is not for dueling it's for killing the in the most pathetic, despicable way possible. Lame in town until ur opponent is raging dodge then u step outside and FoH him and go back to town. A good dudu bear will one hit BvC if it hits. Same goes for Valk zon but it has a much more wider dmg range than bear.


who would have that low resist unless their naked? and with 200fcr your talking risks you can get kill pretty easily by other town campers, and no a stupid bear wont kill a 50% dr 7k life barb in fact you wont even hit it

[The Cow King]

who would have that low resist unless their naked?

That's the point, or at least half of it

and with 200fcr your talking risks you can get kill pretty easily by other town campers

True, fire sorc is a bad idea anyway because it's not about building a real dueler that can go 1 on 1. Hydra sorc would be far better and cheaper than making a standard fire sorc.

and no a stupid bear wont kill a 50% dr 7k life barb in fact you wont even hit it

Your average BvC barb in pubs wears Arreat, and even if they are wearing Strings / Dungo it can still one hit such a barb. I dont know how much the bear has AR though, that's what I'm trying to figure out. For this purpose amazon would be better bcuz Valk gets sick AR bonuses + you can use lvl 50 Inner Sight which will pretty much destroy any defense the barb has.

[yuqing]

To one hit a 7k life barb, even without DR, you'd need 40k+ damage. How is this possible?

[akumaxxyz]

That's the point, or at least half of it



True, fire sorc is a bad idea anyway because it's not about building a real dueler that can go 1 on 1. Hydra sorc would be far better and cheaper than making a standard fire sorc.



Your average BvC barb in pubs wears Arreat, and even if they are wearing Strings / Dungo it can still one hit such a barb. I dont know how much the bear has AR though, that's what I'm trying to figure out. For this purpose amazon would be better bcuz Valk gets sick AR bonuses + you can use lvl 50 Inner Sight which will pretty much destroy any defense the barb has.

you cant 1 hit a 7k life barb with just bear, it needs some massive aura boost same for valk you need to make it spawn a cruel eth warpike of some sort.
even if you have concentrate/might/fanaticsm/heart of wolverine you still cant 1 hit the barb because no one is going to stand there

[Gimmershred]

glitched aura barb doing the flamebellow bug. Immortality is yours, take it...

[The Cow King]

glitched aura barb doing the flamebellow bug. Immortality is yours, take it...

ROFL :grin:

To one hit a 7k life barb, even without DR, you'd need 40k+ damage. How is this possible?

No, because minions dont get 1/6 dmg reduction, only 1/2

Valk can easily dish 10k pvp dmg with max dmg roll and ds if it's a cruel war pike. You can just resummon valk until you get back weapon but then again no one's gona get hit by it, so you really need to spawn it on top of the enemy. That's why bear is more common.

[The Cow King]

Here's the stats for the valk if I calculated it right (not including skill shrine)

passive sk +9
Torch +3
Anni +1
Athelete Gloves +3
Gymnast Amu +3
Gymnast Circlet +3
Peace +2
Arach +1
SoJ +2
Cta +1
HoTo +3
Spirit +2

total = +33 passive skillsSo lvl 53 valk would have

6160-7392 life
+1300% DMG
+2920
+520% defense

74% CS chance with one point in the actual skill *
61/70/61 dodges with one point in the actual skills *

And you would have Inner Sight that has -3915 defense, which is enough to nullify any defense except full out eth bugged exile smiter

So actual damage numbers:

Normal War Pike

462-2492 | 924-4984 with CS

total PvP damage range 231-2492Cruel War Pike 250% (max is 300% but I'm calculating the average cruel)

1610-8722 | 3220-17444 with CS

total PvP damage range 805-8722Those are the damages without pride, I'm not sure if pride aura will effect your valk from merc if merc is inside town so for now I'm ignoring it.

I guess for best effect I'd be using Might merc with Pride + ditching/switching Cta for Beast on switch, which would boost the damage... alot :p

I'm so gona make this lol

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*If the valk synergies work the same way as dudu summon synergies, meaning +skills count toward synergy.

[Uncle_Mike]

You cannot re-summon valk fast, there is a delay between casts, it's a "timered summon" unlike bear.

Bear wins.

[nex]

Duh. You are all ignoring the obvious #1 char for this: trapper. If you want easy lame (naked) kills there's nothing better than trapping the town exit and spamming mind blast like a mad man :smiley: Actually, leave MB spamming to shadow master and you can take a nap :smiley:

[The Cow King]

you need to be outside 24/7 to make kills with traps = fail

[Sechler]

glitched aura barb doing the flamebellow bug. Immortality is yours, take it...

Can you do anthing except stand there while flamebellow bugged?

[Gimmershred]

Can you do anthing except stand there while flamebellow bugged?

yes, you can go drink, eat, read a book , watch t.v. etc. and still make kills.

[akumaxxyz]

you cant kill people with the bug.

[Gimmershred]

you cant kill people with the bug.

First you do the aurabug, then you stand there with the flamebellow bug. The aurabug is what makes you kill, the flamebellow bug is what makes you immortal. Anyways, it was just a joke and i don't hope to ever see this lame char in a duelgame. I'll just not host or rejoin then anyways and the barb itself won't be able to host anyone after he has done the flamebellow bug.

[akumaxxyz]

First you do the aurabug, then you stand there with the flamebellow bug. The aurabug is what makes you kill, the flamebellow bug is what makes you immortal. Anyways, it was just a joke and i don't hope to ever see this lame char in a duelgame. I'll just not host or rejoin then anyways and the barb itself won't be able to host anyone after he has done the flamebellow bug.

you still wont be able to kill because aura bug takes way too long, since you can move people can just go out of range and you dont have synergies to begin with so your doing much much less damage, but i can see how lame this would be.

[DIEnamic]

all you have to do to defeat the aura glitch flamebellow barbs is smite the hell out of them until their dreams/dragons break.

[zeiris]

Bear druids are tough to get kills with. Fissure druids kill everything, but can die easily since they sacrifice everything for damage. 6K life won't help when you have 0 resists no block and no DR.

The only way to deal with that is expensive. If you built said fissure druid with 5/20 scs, tri-res boots, perfect anni+torch, and a perfect maras you'd hit like 170 res max. You could, of course, prebuff with treachery or rely on Anya quests, rejoining whenever you died. Also, you can use a faceted JMOD and get max block versus WW barbs and the occasional charge.

Although you eventually realize that you always die within grab range from town, so who cares... Playing a fissure druid makes you apathetic to death.

(Interesting question: if you cast fissure with a wizardspike/stormshield switch, then switch to the 20/20 + 30/30, what will your damage be?)

[thepandafactor]

Do auras work in flamebellow mode?

[Godstomper]

Fissure Druid. Got into a game with a Summon Druid, casted some Ravens > GG his bear.

I'll use a Ber'd Stormshield for when I really PvP and with the 30/30 Sword and Ravenlore, it still does enough damage. 51DR and max block.

Debating whether to part my Zon to upgrade my Fire Druid. Pretty much made with mule leftovers.

[Mythatic]

Summon Druids works so well against melee characters, especially smiter. Barbs however, ruins the fun with Howl...

[scottymill]

there was a nova sorc with infinity and another lite sorc that was nkin everyone outside of gate last night and imo they were the most annoying i have encountered since i started playing 3 months ago.