Buriza Do Kyanon?

[onomastikon]

I found this unique ballista with my sorc, and altohugh my zon cant use it yet, it seems pretty good for a mid- level char. Or is this something that people trade? it's the first unique I've found that seems really nice.

[Mperor]

My strafezon's used it from 40s-70, it's really not a bad bow at all. I switched only because I was making a mavina Zon - Buriza can stand quite well on its own.

*Used to be the shiznit back then until the runewords invaded the game.

[rietori]

I always thought it was THE gun. oO Maybe that was a while back...

About the name, I always wondered... is it a pun on "Blizzard cannon"? Because if you wrote Blizzard Cannon in Katakana letters it would read somewhat like that.

[AgentMarth]

About the name, I always wondered... is it a pun on "Blizzard cannon"? Because if you wrote Blizzard Cannon in Katakana letters it would read somewhat like that.

^That's exactly it.


Anyways it is a nice xbow, that has lots of IAS, 100% Pierce, and other juicy mods. If you don't have a way to get something like Faith/Ice/Windforce, it is an awesome weapon to use till then.

[HobbesAC]

buriza used to be an ok bow back in patch 1.09 when guidedarrows could pierce but with patch 1.10 its now a PoC piece of crap. i would rather use witchwildstring that this buri

[Allerii]

buriza used to be an ok bow back in patch 1.09 when guidedarrows could pierce but with patch 1.10 its now a PoC piece of crap. i would rather use witchwildstring that this buri

Buriza was pretty far from OK xbow in 1.09. It was an awesomely strong cannon back than in combination with pierce/GA. Now its still very good weapon for its phys dmg and 100% pierce. But as Mperor said, these 1.10 runewords are much stronger.

[WrongdayJ]

. . .Buriza was pretty far from OK xbow in 1.09. It was an awesomely strong cannon back than in combination with pierce/GA. Now its still very good weapon for its phys dmg and 100% pierce. But as Mperor said, these 1.10 runewords are much stronger. . . .

:shocked: It's STILL pretty far from OK even now.

I have a Frostmaiden wielding one right now that is an absolute wrecking ball. True, there are a couple super-over-powered runewords that can out perform the Buriza. . .but don't sleep on the Burrito. It can still carry a build as an endgame weapon (and in my case. . .it is.):azn:

Also, you don't need Duped runes nor do you have to play on the realms to enjoy using a Buriza!

Keep the Buriza- you'll be glad you did.

[HobbesAC]

:shocked: It's STILL pretty far from OK even now.

I have a Frostmaiden wielding one right now that is an absolute wrecking ball. True, there are a couple super-over-powered runewords that can out perform the Buriza. . .but don't sleep on the Burrito. It can still carry a build as an endgame weapon (and in my case. . .it is.):azn:

Also, you don't need Duped runes nor do you have to play on the realms to enjoy using a Buriza!

Keep the Buriza- you'll be glad you did.

well try to do a baalrun in a 5+player game on hell then youll know how much it stinks :p

[maiku]

Eh? Most character builds aren't very effective in large 5-8 player games, unless they're running with top-notch items or rune words or they can scale up their damage (like with certain spells like Static or abilities like Conviction). That's not really a fair measure to judge Burrito by.

I doubt most people who find it really build for the Ballista, but usually people who have a "Faith" or WF will build and tailor their character for their bows. It's no different with a Buriza. You should play up to its strengths and try to minimize its weaknesses. With the right equipment and planning, a Buriza is great. If using for Strafe, it's important to load up a lot of IAS items, like one would for an Eaglehorn or WF, to make sure Strafe lock isn't a concern. If using FA or Multishot primarily, it increases other equipment flexibility because of its automatic 100% Pierce & other stats. (No Razortail needed.)

[Sako]

I use an upgraded 200% Buriza on my frostmaiden, it's absolutely great on solo game (pitruns etc) using FA doing 3k phisical + 2,5k cold damage, kinda stinks in baalruns, but I think FA can be killer during minion battles, freezing mobs for pala/sorcs to kill them quickly.

[onomastikon]

Hey thanks.

Just one question:


*Used to be the shiznit back then until the runewords invaded the game.


does shiznit mean good or bad?

[MuffinMan]

:laugh: Good

[sorcguy]

In a nutshell I'm going to summarize and say it's a good bow to use until you can use Windforce at 73 or Eaglehorn at lvl 69.

It's worth about 10 pgems or depending on the % enhanced damage.

[WrongdayJ]

. . .well try to do a baalrun in a 5+player game on hell then youll know how much it stinks :p. . .

Hehehe. I have. Actually- I still do. . .and it rules. :jig:

But then again, I built my Frostmaiden around that weapon.

Do Boss runs take a while? Well. . .kinda.

Do they take a while with ANY bowazon? Yes. (There are exceptions here but for the 99.9% of us who aren't SuperDave or Crawling Dead Man, Bowies naturally kill Bosses a little slower than the Lightning Javazons regardless of what cannon they are packing.)

Now- take that same Buriza (that you just said 'stinks') and go Cowing with it and then tell me how much it stinks. The Buriza was MADE for crowd control. Those pesky swarming pigmys in Act III are easy money with a Burrito, too. In fact, I could sit here and list 1000 situations where the Buriza is awesome, but only 1 where it really is just OK. Boss Killing.

So I suppose I am kinda failing to see how that weapon stinks.

[lendial]

my oldest memories of d2 invole an amazon going through a bloodfoot hills run with a 5 or 6 socket bow filled with perfect emeralds. it took about 2 hours to kill one enslaved. soon after i got a burito cannon and everything just fell over and died. this was of course years ago when you saw clegaw/buritto spammers in pvp.

[wraith985]

Don't mind all of the people who say it's bad, once you've gotten used to a +3 Faith it's hard to go back to anything else, and i'm guessing a lot of the 'gosu' people don't remember what it's like to be poor and unable to afford all of the expensive runewords. Keep it and use it, it'll serve you well. It's definitely not a bad bow by any stretch.

Another awesome mid-level bow is the Witchwild String, as was mentioned elsewhere in this thread. So if you do find yourself one of those, keep that as well :thumbsup:

[Allerii]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HobbesAC
. . .well try to do a baalrun in a 5+player game on hell then youll know how much it stinks :p. . .
Well, what bow/xbow would you use for killing Baal, heh? Since GA no longer works with pierce you have to use something with CB or use CS if you have a hybridzon. Nonetheless, Buriza IS a viable weapon.

[Smiffy]

Here's a guide to the proper use of the infamous Buriza do Kyanon:

Click (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=142367&highlight=guide+punch)

Very informative! :grin:

[Von Lazuli]

You can build around Buriza, but unless you do, the bow tends to be less than optimal. If you build around it though, the build is an absolute powerhouse. 3 frame strafe with that crossbow is insane... it does an absolutely rediculous amount of damage, couple that with huge peirce and cold damage and you have a monster...

Laz

[MalVeauX]

The noob cannon is great.

I up'd mine and put it on an ama built around getting the fastest attack possible out of the Xbow since they're cap'd slower than normal bows.

Harmony is the best runeword per cost.
Buriza is the best unique per cost, and beyond.

Look the reqs. Look at the mods. Look at the damage. If you scoff at 350 damage bows, then clearly you have something way higher and that's fine. But for people who are just getting interested in bows/xbows, the noob cannon is an incredible weapon to start with.

Cheers,

[Dacar92]

The only problem people have with xbows is that they're slow, compared to bows. That is why xbows get a bad rep. But Buriza and Hellrack can own in their own way. Hellrack is a great bow even for a non amazon who wants to wield a bow, like a bowbarian...fun build, but a little slow in attack. It is hard to get used to the slow attack once you've used anything from WWS on up.

[onomastikon]

I think that Buriza has something like an 80% IAS -- I've never seen that mod before. So that makes it just as fast as anything else around, right? (It's the IAS on a weapon's mod that counts for faster strafing, not IAS elsewhere (like on gloves), right?)

[Dacar92]

IIRC, Buriza's normal attack speed is 13/3. Quite slow by bow standards. The fastest it can get is 11/2 if I recall correctly. I may not be remembering correctly though. Someone correct me if that is incorrect.

[stephan]

I think that Buriza has something like an 80% IAS -- I've never seen that mod before. So that makes it just as fast as anything else around, right? (It's the IAS on a weapon's mod that counts for faster strafing, not IAS elsewhere (like on gloves), right?)
IAS for strafe can come from all pieces of equipment. The problem with crossbows is that they are capped at a slower speeds than bows (for strafe it is 3 vs. 2 fpa). If you could give a crossbow 2 million% IAS it still wouldn't reach the speed a bow can.

[wraith985]

IIRC, Buriza's normal attack speed is 13/3. Quite slow by bow standards. The fastest it can get is 11/2 if I recall correctly. I may not be remembering correctly though. Someone correct me if that is incorrect.
This sounds correct. And frankly, it'd be sick if a crossbow could hit the 7/2 strafe break...imagine the burrito cannon with 7/2 strafe, yeesh.

[stephan]

This sounds correct. And frankly, it'd be sick if a crossbow could hit the 7/2 strafe break...imagine the burrito cannon with 7/2 strafe, yeesh.
It is not correct. Crossbows are not capable of a 2 frame strafe. Otherwise there would be far less problems using one for strafe.

[wraith985]

What is it, 11/3 then?

[KremBanan]

It is not correct. Crossbows are not capable of a 2 frame strafe. Otherwise there would be far less problems using one for strafe.
Actually, what wraith985 says is correct.

[stephan]

Actually, what wraith985 says is correct.
Errm. Explain? If you mean that a 7/2 strafe on a Buriza would be pretty awesome yes I agree. But it isn't possible (a 7/2 strafe is not possible with a bow either). My comment was referring to his quote of Dacar92.

What is it, 11/3 then?
Yes.

[KremBanan]

It was the awesomeness if Buriza would be able to 7/2 :)

[D G F]

I once hgad that xbow. Quiet good for a midlvl.

[Von Lazuli]

Curiously enough, the Burrito needs 215 IAS to reach a 3 frame second arrow for strafe...

I built one once... good fun all around.

Laz

[Ed from Russia]

If you still want to use your Buriza after all these comments ...
You could make a Druid; there are several shapeshifter builds that can use Buriza (upped or not), i.e. Fury Wolves and Maul Bears. Then again, I am a bigger fan of Ribcracker myself.

[onomastikon]

Thank you.

So the weapon speed calculator on that German D2 site (forget link offhand, the one in all those sticked threads) gives incorrect information on the #of attacks and attack speed with Strafe for the Cannon in particular and Ballistae in general because Strafe is capped at 3?
I didnt know that. Where do you folks get this info?
thanks much

[stephan]

The attack speed of the follow up speed of strafe is right on that calc. It just does not list the speed of the start and end animation of strafe (which is less important).

Strafe IAS tables can be found in the stickies here.