cb or cs?

[bombaa]

wich blade is faster for barb cs or cb for death wich one is better and state reason plz

[MalVeauX]

wich blade is faster for barb cs or cb for death wich one is better and state reason plz

CS is [10]
CB is [5]

Death has no IAS at all, so either way, not much of a speed difference. The CB is slightly faster obviously.

What attack are you using though? It's a totally different question if we're talking WW or something like Conc/Zerk.

Cheers,

[bombaa]

CS is [10]
CB is [5]

Death has no IAS at all, so either way, not much of a speed difference. The CB is slightly faster obviously.

What attack are you using though? It's a totally different question if we're talking WW or something like Conc/Zerk.

Cheers,

berserk main skill ww backup

[MalVeauX]

berserk main skill ww backup

Heya,

If you're main attack is Berserk, I would suggest you use a different runeword all together. Death is a nice runeword, but it's just too slow. You will do higher damage per swing with it compared to Oath for example (due to it's larger damage range and the nice deadly strike) but the fact is, you're swinging at the base speed of the weapon and then only the external IAS from the rest of your gear will speed you up. You know how slow you feel when you're swinging that axe you start the game with? That's how fast you'll be swinging these big old swords.

You'll do more damage by hitting more often, in less amount of time. In other words, doing slightly less average damage but doing it twice as fast results in way more damage done. I would suggest you make an Oath out of an Eth sword instead of Death, especially if you'll use Whirlwind at all. Oath has 50% IAS in the word, so using any sword works for Berserk, but the faster the base speed, the better (and for whirlwind its essential to have IAS on the weapon, and lots of it). I would suggest an etheral Champion sword, as it is -10 base, with 50% from the word you get 60% weapon IAS which is the fastest WW break point, and it will be set for hitting your fastest attack break points with conc or berserk either way. Faster is better when it comes to these weapons, even if it means a little less damage per swing.

Cheers,

[bombaa]

Heya,

If you're main attack is Berserk, I would suggest you use a different runeword all together. Death is a nice runeword, but it's just too slow. You will do higher damage per swing with it compared to Oath for example (due to it's larger damage range and the nice deadly strike) but the fact is, you're swinging at the base speed of the weapon and then only the external IAS from the rest of your gear will speed you up. You know how slow you feel when you're swinging that axe you start the game with? That's how fast you'll be swinging these big old swords.

You'll do more damage by hitting more often, in less amount of time. In other words, doing slightly less average damage but doing it twice as fast results in way more damage done. I would suggest you make an Oath out of an Eth sword instead of Death, especially if you'll use Whirlwind at all. Oath has 50% IAS in the word, so using any sword works for Berserk, but the faster the base speed, the better (and for whirlwind its essential to have IAS on the weapon, and lots of it). I would suggest an etheral Champion sword, as it is -10 base, with 50% from the word you get 60% weapon IAS which is the fastest WW break point, and it will be set for hitting your fastest attack break points with conc or berserk either way. Faster is better when it comes to these weapons, even if it means a little less damage per swing.

Cheers,

ok i understand ty for your help m8

[RibGriller]

You'll do more damage by hitting more often, in less amount of time. In other words, doing slightly less average damage but doing it twice as fast results in way more damage done.


I'm not so sure that's been proven as a fact or I'm sure it would be common knowledge, and no one would use any slow weapons at all. Death is slow, no doubt, but the question is whether the massive DS makes up for the slower speed.


I would suggest an etheral Champion sword, as it is -10 base, with 50% from the word you get 60% weapon IAS which is the fastest WW break point.
Cheers,

According to the Weapon speed calculator, any Oath sword will hit the last bp -- even a Colossus sword.

Unless you're planning on a WW/Zerk highbrid, I wouldn't sacrifice Zerk dmg for a little more WW dmg/leech. With Death/Highlords/Gores, your DS will hit 93% at clvl 90! IMO, Oath can't match that. It does look like some prefer botd though.

The fastest two-handed Death weapon you can get is eth 5os Champion Axe. You can hit 12 fpa with 55% ias. I'm currently looking for one myself so I can wear Fortitude instead of Treachery.

Just my 2.5 cents, feel free to disagree.

Edit: Btw, the speed you swing the axe at the beginning of the game is 15 fpa. With a edeath CS, I can easily hit 12 fpa with Treachery.

[Kit]

death is for maximizing damage, go with the cs. it has a higher average dmg, and the speed difference is negligable if u are going to use a faith merc and some ias gear.
Keep in mind that death is for a PURE beserker barb, it is TERRIBLE for ww. damric was saying in ur other thread that death is a 50% more zerk dmg over botd which is not really they case. Once you factor in critical strike from weapons masteries the difference is really somewhere between 30%-39%. If you are planing on using ww as a back up skill, death will do much less dmg than botd. Death will attack at 8 frames, and botd will attack at 4 frames.
That said, both weapons are fantastic, it just depends on how your going to play ur character.