JOIN The CRUSADE

[prion]

Sunday, November 11, 10 am - 10 pm EST
USEast Hardcore Ladder

The Crusade is for those who've ever wanted to play in a co-op untwinked environment with an all-paladin team. We will go from level 1 newblets to supreme warriors killing Hell Baal in one sitting. If you've ever wanted to make a ladder run with an optimized group, here's your chance, seeing how Blizz probably won't ever reset the ladder again. Check out Socialism's CTA in this thread (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=586212) to see the sort of thing that we're doing.

Post here to sign up and discuss your build. This is about two weeks from now and after the Daylight Savings Time switch. DO NOT COMMIT UNLESS YOU CAN BE THERE THE ENTIRE SESSION 10am - 10pm all day Sunday the 11th. No-shows will be...uhh...frowned upon. I'm only doing this once.

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Sign up preference goes to people I've played with, forum regulars/old-timers I can recognize , and raw post count, in that order.

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FAQ/info:
1) do we get lunch breaks?
Of course, but it'll be best to graze all day rather than plan on large meals, however we will have a sandwich break sometime in the afternoon and a longer dinner break at dinner time. I find that milkshakes(frappes) are good to keep at your desk; go get some straws.

2) what should I make?
It's actually a little more flexible than you would expect, but there are a few specific builds we need:
- cookie-cutter hammerdin, max conc, hammer, synergies
- dedicated healer; always uses cleansing or meditation
- anyone with conviction

Beyond that there's lots of options. Smiter, defensive zealot, shockadin, fanatic ranger, mage, the list goes on. We just need to make sure we have 8 different auras and multiple damage types. Don't copy an aura that we can get from a merc (possible exception being holy freeze; two won't hurt)

3) aren't you ripping off Socialism's post format?
No, it's called piracy which is really just a swear word for sharing

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Please do not sign up if you:
-can't commit to a twelve hour session
-suffer from lag
-lack a Positive Mental Atitude(TM)
-are inexperienced with hardcore, untwinked, or paladins

We are hardcore in every sense of the word. Bring your A-game.
(write down your breakpoints)

prion
making hell bovines mad since 2001

[AgentMarth]

I'm in, I don't work on Sunday's anymore, and will be free that day barring something extreme.

Yes, I'll be making a Hammerdin. I'll have to find the space, perhaps I will remake my Hdin for fun, since hes only 79ish.

AgentMarth - Shinmeiryuu - Hammerdin

[Master Zap]

ooo , count me in :)

*Sara[eF]

I heart pallies. I'll snag the conviction pally

[prion]

thx, I didn't want to have to do that one, lol.

[Barrynor]

You need a good name for that team of yours. Since all your Paladins are wearing green trousers, you should name them the Green Pants Team. Hmm... GPT doesn't sound too hip now does it? How about Green Butt Team... GBT... naahh...

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Wait a minute, I got it. Name them the Green Arse Team... GAT. That sounds nice.


Good luck ;)

[prion]

i intend to get heavier armor...

[Tai.]

You'll probably get a lot of posts like that from the old timers Prion, don't take it personally.

I'm pretty sure in the "ideas for HC untwinked" thread like 4 people made the reference too.

Anyway, best of luck folks, I have a huge exam the 12th so I'm definitely out.

Stay Safe
-Tai

[come back zinc]

I volunteer to be Healer. I'll practice before then, I swear. God rest the last two souls I was supposed to be healing.

Also, due to logistical concerns, you'll have to put me down as a maybe/reserve for now. I'm traveling quite a bit on my own during the upcoming weekends and that weekend was going to be one spent at home. The GF will be right pissed if I spend the whole day in front of the computer. Ill have to arrange something extravagant for Saturday. By 1 on Sunday she'll have no doubt seen through the ruse, but if I play it just right I can maybe pull it off.

I'll let you know.

Auras - Medy until I find a Sol then Cleansing.

[come back zinc]

I'll pass it off as a charity game. A 12-hour marathon for the CTA society: Cripples Teaching Amputees. A small non-profit organization that provides an opportunity for mobility-reduced individuals to educate other more recently mobility-reduced individuals concerning their rights under Canadian Law, both in the workplace and abroad.

I somehow don't think she'll buy it.

Please - no flaming! I understand my terms aren't PC, but I spent a few years working with the handicapped and I can say that we all appreciate a ridiculous premise.

Count me in! (If you'll take me of course :undecided:)

[Master Zap]

was thinking about this , seems like it would be obscene if we the party did something like

(since I'm on conviction duty, nobody has to worry about ar)
add
1 fanat pally
1 holy freeze
1 holy fire
1 holy shock
these 3 elementals with zeal + a bow on swap for im would be spiffy
hammer w/conc
1 medic

IDK , seems like a good idea to me
the pulses alone would be pretty potent
Crusade sounds pretty good to me

[prion]

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yeah of course i'll take you zinc

edited. w00t

12 hours is a long time....hey when I first started back in 2001 I never would've expected I'd spend 12 hours playing on game, it seemed psycho to me. actually it still does. So if your back and neck are going to be sore at the end of the day, you don't want your girlfriend pissed at you in addition

as for what builds we want:
Tesladin, no question
Fanatic, no question. Maybe a smealot for *****-slapping the act bosses
we want someone to run salvation full time :)
I'm sure someone will want to be a freezealot

I actually wrote up a whole plan with mercs and all a few weeks ago now I have to find where i put it.

[come back zinc]

I've got the OK for 12 hours on a weekend. woot! Count me in for the real thing. KK, healer, 10-10. HC!

[come back zinc]

There are 20 auras, some of which we don't need to worry about...

Prayer - Merc
Resist Fire - Salvation Medic (1)
Resist Cold - Salvation Medic (1)
Resist Lightning - Salvation Medic (1)
Defiance - Merc
Cleansing - Healer (2)
Vigor - Bow RW (any)
Meditation - Healer RW (2)
Redemption - Not much use
Salvation - Salvation Medic (1)

Might - Merc
Holy Fire - Auradin (3)
Thorns - Merc
Blessed Aim - Merc
Concentration - Hammerdin (4)
Holy Freeze - Merc + Freeze Zealot (5)
Holy Shock - Tesladin (6)
Sanctuary - Not really needed...
Fanaticism - Smiter (7)
Conviction - Convict Paladin (8)

With 8 pallys and 2 RWs (Vigor word for bow? and Insight) we could cover all the auras (with the exception of the + individual res, but those could be covered by a second medic who specialized in salvation + synergies). Redemption is unnecessary, except for a few key places, but could be a useful switch.

Sorry, Im not much good with all the cookie cutter names.

[Tai.]

You should totally try to make lawbringer (i think that's the sword with sanc) just for kicks to spam the screen with as much aura as possible.

Cheers
-Tai

[xXxfunbobxXx]

put me down as reserve on holy shock im not sure i may be working this weekend so ill see ill prob getback to ya by thursday

i dont mind being da healer seems fun

[come back zinc]

next weekend, bob!

If anyone else would rather be the healer, I'll bite the bullet and be the rainbow patrol! I wouldn't mind having max res anyway.

[GoHabsGo]

So what happens if a Guardian Angel or Herald of Zakarum drops?

[AgentMarth]

I say goes to the Hammerdin, since he will be doing the most damage, yeah..... >_>

[prion]

the Tesladin should be the one to use Resist Lightning in the appropriate situations as it'll be maxed anyway. 95% max res and +131 means scarabs will have nothing on us. that means other people don't necessarily need to get this skill at all

[Piece]

I want in.

I'll make a veangeance pally and end up covering all the res's so I'll be multi-purpose resist pally/salvation pally. That is unless there are objections.

[prion]

Sunday, November 11, 10am - 10pm
fyi - this is Veteran's/Remembrance day

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No problem Piece. You can be Captain Rainbow (fight it out with Zinc if he wants it).

I'm going to start listing the cool names, anyone remember the old 1.09 name for the hammerdin? Do we just call it a Mage?

[yetidiah]

I am kinda new to HC, but I have had a few in SP and on B.net (roughly ten total two 70+ in SP rest were in B.net none over level 60) I would like to join you guys, but I am not sure what I'll be doing the 11th so maybe a reserve. Just lemme know

*yetidiah FoH/shock zealot sans conviction

[AgentMarth]

I can think of the following names atm:

Mage = Hammerdin
Templar - FoH
Liberator - Charge
Vindicator - Smite
Tesladin - Holy Shock
Avenger - Vengeance

There should be more though.

One thing though, distributing items among us will be a pain, someone mentioned a HoZ, but even stuff like a +1 Paladin Amulet. I think your gonna have to decide who gets first pick on stuff. I do think the Hammerdin is going to be the only caster though.

Also, we should make a game plan, it will be a bit different from CTA in that noone can teleport. But stuff like getting all the wp's, if we always stay together, who to follow, stuff like that.

[prion]

we'll also have to work out the mercs, so we aren't standing around in town saying "what merc should I get?" we should have 1 or 2 fire rogues, an a3 cold merc, and at least the following auras: prayer, defiance, might, holyfreeze.

here's the way i see it:
+pala/all skills go to the hammerdin first and the healer second. Stealth and spirit as well. fcr up to the 75 bp for the hammerdin with up to 30 for the healer.
+tree: combat:smiter then hammerdin, Offensive:elemental, defensive: healer

highest raw damage weapon goes to the avenger. fastest weapons go to the elemental zealots. highest defense armor and sheilds goes to whoever ends up taking point

set pieces--whoever decides to use the first piece of a set that drops gets dibs on the rest of that set.

If anyone wants to play a ranger or dragoon then they'll obviously get dibs on bows or throwing weapons.

people on point get dibs on life leech and PDR gear

Sara gets dibs on all elemental damage charms.

[come back zinc]

If someone else is going to cover FOH, what should I do with my remaining points? I can max Sanctuary and Defiance for taking care of the undead, or should I just put them in the Resistance skills and raise my own maxes?

As for battle plan:

All A2 Merc auras follow the 10.6-36 yd radius plan with the exception of the HF merc. Whoever is going to be tanking should prob have the HF merc, all the rest can be basically anywhere.

Maybe the healers should take Mage/Rogue mercs for added elemental damage, as we usually try to set up a few yards away from the front line anyway. The ranged attackers would also be good dummy targets for any enemies that approach from the back (I'd rather CA Gaile get swarmed by that pack of dolls). We can also use at least one Rogue for the Vigor aura RW. Vigor has a pretty good range so I don't think we'll have any problem.

We need to be careful about sticking together, and we should maybe make town trips together. If anyone needs any particular potions, I'll carry an inventory full (as there wont be much for me to pick up by the time I get to the front line anyway). If you need anything, just ask and I'll provide. I guess you can change my title to: Healer/Potion Dispenser.

Something else we should think about is the distribution of gem chips. There are 6 types of gem, skulls, and runes. If everyone takes care of one of those, then we can probably save a lot of inventory space. I'll play Hamlet and hold the skulls, but we should maybe assign the rest by build: Tesladin takes Topazes, HF guy takes Sapphires, Hammerdin takes runes, Rainbow Protector takes Diamonds, etc. This should save us some time.

Thoughts?

[Piece]

I like the idea zinc

I love my names, rainbow protector, angel, avenger...

So should I be the primary tank as I'm going to have the highest/maxed out res's overall whereas everyone else might only have one res they're getting a higher max res on?

[come back zinc]

I like the idea zinc

I love my names, rainbow protector, angel, avenger...

So should I be the primary tank as I'm going to have the highest/maxed out res's overall whereas everyone else might only have one res they're getting a higher max res on?

That's the idea, I think. Though you'll have to put a lot of points in life and maybe some Holy Shield, to max block, if you're going to be in the front line. What will your attack be? I don't know much about Paladin Combat skills, besides smiting, which BTW, we don't have yet. You could always use the point in smiting to stun them while the everyone else has at 'em. I guess its not that important, but we're going to need someone with maxed Fanatacism to keep our Merc wall moving.

That's another thing. We need to have that true crusading spirit, might I suggest everyone plays "Ride of the Valkyries" on a 12 hour loop while playing. If you haven't got any Wagner on CD, just throw in Apocalypse Now and have at it!

Dum da-da-dum Dum

[Piece]

Vengeance will be my attack, as it is synergized by all those resists.

After reading Asmo's guide in the pally forum though I was sorta thinking about going two handed avenger. The only thing about that though is it'd pretty much completely rule me out as primary tank and I'd be a little afraid I'd be too fragile. I don't know I would really like to try it as I'd be 1 hit KOing stuff out the wazzoo with all those auras. Might + Fanat + Conviction + all that ridiculous Ele damage = Diablo dies FAST.

Edit:
Oh and it might be a good idea to have a few people work on resists. I mean, I'll have salvation as a main res, but if we have someone else do lightning resist for instance, I can switch to cold resist when we get to meph and we'll have no problems at all with him. Same with Diablo, that person switch Lightning and I'll switch fire and we'll have his attacks pretty much covered with highhhh res (he does have that cold melee attack though).

[yetidiah]

I was actually thinking about it and with an avenger/elemental zealots, I will probably play a smiter/zealer with fanatacism to help boost everyones attack speed, and the stun on smite can get pretty long so that could help with crowd control

[STINGER]

If things continue with my recent information i just might be able and interested in doing this.

[prion]

november 11th
remember this is next week

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Did i get everyone so far?

If we keep getting 1 or 2 new people every day we might end up with two teams!

[Piece]

I need it ot be next week so i can get off work but AHHH I want to do this so bad.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

nov 11th is the day i believe ill find out by mid next week if i can do this

[Piece]

My friend is interested. I've played with this guy for 6 years and can totally vouch for him. Great player, good personality. We share acct p/wds and work together well. I'll have him post, it's cool if you guys don't want him to join cause he's new, but this guy is good and is totally trustworthy.

[SnowManPunk]

i can do it ill forsure do it i just need times, im a westside player so times will be different, i need help with that. forsure ill do it i dont know what im gonna be, ill be whatever were gonna need. defiance if we need it..?:thumbsup:

[Piece]

Defiance is taken by a merc. I suppose yours could be better, but why not go with an offensive aura (holy shock & holy fire left open). Go for a charger or something. That or get creative, dragoon has been mentioned.

Then again I'm not the best at this sort of thing. Wait for Prion's response.

Now that I think about it, holy shock + a ranged attack could be pretty cool. Very useful in Chaos.

We should have a set prefix for the char names, like KTA is KTA-*Blank*.

[prion]

yah but i can't think of a good prefix. So Piece, you can join right? You seem to have transposed or left out some critical letters and I can't tell what your post is saying.
NEXT weekend Sunday november 11th

Hi SnowManPunk,

We'd love to have a new player along, my first hardcore experience was in a similar game. Just make sure you choose a build with which you are familiar. Plan out ahead of time what you are going to do in terms of stats and skills.

Start time will be 7:00 am pacific time

The following auras will be provided by mercs: Defiance, Might, Holy Freeze, Prayer. There are still a variety of builds available:
-elemental zealot/thrower/archer, that's 9 builds right there.
-FoH/shock--additional FoH can't hurt, and it's great for sniping imps
-another hammerdin. use med full time, leech off AgentMarth's conc
-chaplain: max prayer, run cleansing or med full time, pick any combat skill

A charger would be a bad build. There won't be enough room to manuever. Ironic that the Crusader cannot join the Crusade :0

[AgentMarth]

I say no to the prefix on the names.

There is a high chance (really high seeing as how imma take my current Hdin down) that we will be keeping these characters for later use. I for one don't want a tag in from on the character, which will just force me to either make a new account (16 chars all full) or remake him again after the Crusade.

Oh and btw, I'll be picking a Prayer Merc if that matters.

Looks like we will be able to have a full group, just plan for no shows or whatnot. I think every CTA had at least one, then the reserves got to play. However, I think it wont be so much an issue here, seeing as how we may have a extra/copy of a build.

[prion]

if anyone can think of a good prefix, it's your option, but I think we should try for cool "role-playing" names instead.

or if anyone just wants to name your character ISuckAtNames go ahead

[come back zinc]

I think I've got the Chaplain covered. Doubling auras is sensless unless we're talking elemental auras (short range). I'm going to have the level 12-17meditation aura running (from staff or polearm) with a prayer bonus (I'll have 20 prayer) and Cleansing running with another prayer bonus. Until we find that Sol, I'll be using meditation with cleansing on switch.

Skill Distribution:
20 prayer
20 holy bolt
10-20 cleansing
20 sanctuary
1 meditation
20 FOH (if I live that long)

I'll take a Cold Arrow Rogue and Harmony (if someone can spare a Ko from NM forge)

Tir + Ith + Sol + Ko
Level 10 Vigor Aura When Equipped
+200-275% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
+9 To Maximum Damage
Adds 55-160 Lightning Damage
Adds 55-160 Fire Damage
Adds 55-160 Cold Damage
+2-6 To Valkyrie (varies)
+10 To Dexterity
Regenerate Mana 20%
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+2 To Light Radius
Level 20 Revive (25 Charges)

Then again, I dont think a merc can have her own Valk, so it may be better in the hands of some kind of Ranger. If that's the case, I'll go with an Act 3 caster, as FCR stuff may not be all that necessary for everyone else.

Prion, can you add a Merc column to your list?

EDIT: Also, since Nov 11th is Rememberance Day in Canada, we're going to have to take a quick town break at 11:00 am (11/11/11).

[Master Zap]

It's probably not going to be worth keeping a high level untwinker after this, at least in my eyes. The char will have boatloads of wasted stats and for the discerning HC player that's just not acceptable.

my build along the lines of

20conviciton
20 foh
20 holyshock
5-10 holyshield
5 hit zeal
rest in res light

basicaly a full on foh pally without the holy bolt syngery for undead.

the other thing I'd consider is a conviction charger or vengence. Insight in a elderstaff would be endgame wep for this.
I'm actualy not certain what route I'm going to go

I still say perhaps the most effective route we can go
3 pallies pick one of the elemental auras and it's res aura syngery
1 conviction to fix everyones ar and beef up all elemental attacks
1 medic
1 hammer
1 fanat something

[prion]

ok i didn't realize you were going to be using FoH as well, so we don't need another one of those.

Personally I'm going to be either a shock ranger or a frost zealot.

I'll be adding a mercenay column whn it gets closer to go time and we get our own builds worked out.

[come back zinc]

Maybe a gem/skull/rune column as well. I figure at least 5 people are going to want to collect rubies.

My FOH is just somewhere to put extra points, if there's something more practical, lemme know. IIRC correctly, the FOH Holy Bolts don't actually heal?

[prion]

we'll have a mule for gems etc. I'll have a second copy of D2 running and he'll be idling in another game. C_Quartermaster on account LordPrion. if a slot opens we'll grush him and he'll just stay in the game with us.

Meanwhile everyone just pick up whatever you see, stash it, we'll sort it out in town, mule off the extras immediately before each act boss.

The FoH holy bolts may or may not heal, the problem is, they never hit anyone. It will however be a very useful attack because you can hit a large number of undead at once with it. I don't see any need to put a large number of points in sanctuary, I actually think it'll be more useful on one of the zealots. Here's how I see your build, take it for what its worth:
20 prayer
20 HB
3 cleansing to start, 5-10 to finish off
2 points in any resist aura not covered by someone else
finish off with 20 FoH
Holy sheild optional
a1 FIRE rogue with sapphire bow or a3 cold mage. the reason is that cold arrows do only half their regular damage, so while they'll be useful in act 1, we don't want to keep them around forever. The cold mage will do a better job of protecting you for obvious reasons.

[come back zinc]

I'm just trying to figure out what to do with my extra skill points. I'll do whatever it is a Cleric is supposed to do with them... I just figured for those times when there are lots of undead, its no big deal if I turn off Cleansing in favour of Sanctuary. It'll make me feel like I'm actually doing damage too!

[prion]

I don't want to dictate your build, but IMO there are better ways to use points than Sanctuary. One point should be sufficient.

It's main use is clearing doorways and removing physical immunity, so one or more of the front line zealots should also get it.

[AgentMarth]

You could always max Blessed Hammer, with my Conc it should do a decent amount of damage I think.

I'd think it would be nice for you to have an offensive skill, and Insight does give 33%(?) FCR. Or you could try Zeal (staff Zeal!) But, I don't see why having another FoH shooting down could be a bad thing. Any stray monsters can be sniped, and just that, sniped, you wouldn't have to get close.

So actually, I say FoH.

Geez, I guess I got it easy with the cookie cutter char.

[yetidiah]

looking at all these variations, it makes me glad I'm "just" a smiter. Are we gonna schedule in lunch breaks etc. (yes the fat kid worries about food) what happens if someone leaves mid crusade? fluxing: yes or no? Are we gonna set up an item distribution method? is andariel really female? sooo many unanswered questions head is gonna explode:grin: .

[kevindubbleoseven]

how do you play this game please help me

[prion]

Are we gonna schedule in lunch breaks etc.
sandwich break in the afternoon prolly after meph or diablo, say 20 minutes. half hour supper around 6 i guess. we're just going to try to fit it in when people actually eat.
what happens if someone leaves mid crusade?
no one should be doing that if they read my initial post >.<
fluxing: yes or no?
yes don't die that would be lame.
Are we gonna set up an item distribution method?
yes thats what we've been discussing. as the smiter you'll get preference for the sheild with the highest damage.

During town runs we'll compare our finds and sort it out. IF you need LR or or somethin, announce it "I need some more LR"

if anyone else thinks anything is worthy of discussion plz post it. we have over a week to get things straightened out, lets use it.

[Piece]

Prion, I can come.

[Dimmu Borgir]

This sounds really cool.

If you've still got room I'd like to join in, I'm thinking of taking the healer role and if that's taken, maybe a build that uses Might as the main aura, since I imagine someone will already be using Fanaticism.

EDIT: Whoops, those Aura can come from mercs, in that case I'll have to think on a build over the week. Although it may not be as useful as it used to be, would an old school Conversion/Thorns Pally be out of the question?

On second thought the Conversion build sounds mighty appealing, though I'll probably switch my main Aura to Blessed Aim.

I'm gonna need to make a new account though, since I forgot the passwords to my old ones :(

[AgentMarth]

Actually, I'd hate to burst your bubble, but Conversion would be a major PITA.

With all the auras, once we get decent gear, we will be killing quite fast (I hope), and in which case, having to wait out a monsters conversion, would get really annoying really fast IMO. Just think, MB'd minions in Throne, and how annoying it can get.

Also, BA can be gotten by a Merc, and even then, with Conviction around, having 1k AR will be like 10k. It seems to me that Conviction will play a major part in our well being, so Sara, we're counting on you! Maybe 2 Paladins with Conviction on could work to, in case we spread out a bit. Who knows.

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As of right now, we just need the 3 Holy auras covered. Freeze, Shock and Fire are still open. Something tells me noone will want the Fire one. Either way, with Conviction around, stuff will die fast.

Another thing, I can help hold a second game as well, so we can quick mule anything in there. Honestly, I just hope we find ALOT of diamonds, I mean we better pick up every single one we can to shove in a paladin shield. Either that, or keep an eye out for a 3 soc shield for Ancients pledge.

Do you guy think its a good idea to give one person item duty? as in one person who pick up the shields and distributes them accordingly? It is gonna be tricky since unlike CTA, we will all be needing the same things, i.e. shields.

I think we should make a list of what to keep an eye out for. I know i'll be watching for a 2 soc BP, and 2 soc circlet, and stuff like that.

In fact, everyone should post somewhat of a "wish" list socket wise (or even in general, but be practical) so we can gather them up and check them off kinda thing.

For me its
2 soc Circlet
2 soc BP
4 soc Sword
4 soc Shield

Oh, and of course we NEED a leader to follow. I nominate whoever knows the most map patterns, so they aren't running the wrong way the most of the time.

[Dimmu Borgir]

I figured Conversion might be useful to hold off like a specific monster while the rest are taken down, since it IS Hardcore afterall. Gotta be careful. Times I see it being useful are maybe against an Overseer in Act V.

Since Holy Fire's open I wouldn't mind taking that, we'll need Resist Fire early in Act II as well, and by that point I'll probably have a good number of points in it (Unless the Vengeance Pally will be focusing on his synergies first). Plus fire is awesome. :P

Not sure whether to go Zeal or Smite, though... Fire Smiter sounds like a fun change from the norm.

EDIT: Okay yeah I'm going Fire Smite. Might throw a few points in Zeal too, but if we need resists I'll put on Salvation since I'll be maxing that. I'm thinking:

20 Holy Fire
20 Resist Fire
20 Salvation
20 Holy Shield

And probly stop there since I don't expect to get to level 99 for the last 20 skill points.

EDIT: My account is prepared on USEast, *DimmuBorgir666

[AgentMarth]

Fire damage, or any elemental damage doesn't transfer to Smite, so I'd say Zeal. You really just need the 4 points in it though to get 5 attacks.

[Dimmu Borgir]

Well that sucks. :( Though if someone's gonna have Fanat, I might as well take advantage of it...

Alrighty, I'll just make a classic Zealot, Holy Fire.

Build is set, I'm not changing my mind. :P

[yetidiah]

dream list of socketables:
2 soc armor with decent defense for smoke
3 soc flail for black or two sock for strength
2 soc paladin shield for rhyme
and the runes to make them
also any goblin toes drop, I got dibs :P

[prion]

Build is set, I'm not changing my mind. :P

you're not? never? what if we find a Raven Claw or Kuko? :D
anyway salvation should be your last priority since Piece will be running that as his main aura

there will be no conversion or thorns. Waste of time IMO. Once those monsters unconvert they may have up to ten auras on them. We ain't dealing with that. The idea is to strike them down with the force of our faith, not grant them holy powers.

There is still a week to go. More signups welcome. I want 2 teams so we can race :D

[Dimmu Borgir]

Well since I won't be needing to use Salvation I'm considering making a Fire Charger instead of a Fire Zealot... For one I'll use a two-hander, since a) I doubt anyone else will want them if a good one drops, and b) less dispute over who gets what shield. :D

[xXxfunbobxXx]

well i doubt our healer will use a shield to so thats 2 less shields used

[prion]

Peice is going two handed.

Dimmu are you familiar with elemental paladins?

[Dimmu Borgir]

I'm familiar with all sorts of builds, I'm just trying my hardest not to be a Zealot. :P I'm quite sick of them.

I imagine he'll be using a two-hander to maximize Vengeance? That actually sounds pretty cool...

I admit I'm still undecided on my build at the moment, but I like the idea of going Holy Fire a lot because a) no one does it, and b) I'll be doing good damage very early on, and even more when someone picks up Conviction.

Chances are I'll just stick with the Zealot, though, since I know how to play them pretty well.

Actually can I get an updated list of who's playing what build? That might help me decide on mine a little better.

EDIT: I was browsing the Paladin guides and I came across the one for a Ranger, and it sounds mighty appealing. I'll be a ranger with Holy Fire. :D I might change up the build a bit though to incorporate some Holy Shield in case I find a throwing weapon that's better than a bow.

20 Holy Fire
20 Resist Fire
20 Blessed Aim
20 Split in Salvation / Holy Shield?

[Piece]

2 two handers should be fine shouldnt it? I'm sure we already have 2 shielded pallies so 2 two handers should be fine I'd think.

I <3 you prion. Thank you for dealing with this so I can have fun Sat!

Conversion + Thorns is a BIGG no no. Potential accidental PK. I dont like conversion. Conversion = that monster gets our auras and when unconverts keeps them for an instant, so we're talking a monster with salvation, fanat, conc, might, ect ect and definitely could lead to a death.

[prion]

Thank you for dealing with this so I can have fun Sat!

huh what do you mean by that? I'm confused.
What people do on saturday does not concern me....

Dimmu you've got a solid build there. We will have a conviction aura running so you may only need start with a few points in BA to tide you over till level 30. focus on your fire damage and pray for that raven claw!

dimmu gets dibs on range gear. he gets the weakest sheild.

I'll update the list when it reaches page 7 but here is the partial list so far:


Forum Name Account Name Build/Aura Mercenary
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1. prion prionHC decide later
2. Master Zap Sara[EF] conviction
3. AgentMarth Shinmeiryuu Mage/Concentration Prayer
4. come back zinc Khlavkhalash Cleric/Cleansing
5. Piece Piece(EF) Angel/Salvation
6. yetidiah yetidiah Vindicator/Fanaticism
7. SnowManPunk ?? ??
8. Dimmu fire


Still taking reserves, the whole reason i got in on CTA3 was because someone bailed saturday night so anyone interested should post.

[Dimmu Borgir]

For the list, my account is *DimmuBorgir666 and build is Ranger/Holy Fire. :P

I'm usually a melee build, I hate casters and Amazons, but I think this might be a fun experience. Plus no more sitting in the middle of the group in Maggot Lair doing nothing, haha.

I hope I find a Kuko, the splash damage from that gets damage from Holy Fire.

[come back zinc]

A Healer's wish list.

4 socket polearm (something pimpin' like a halberd) + Sol rune!
2 Socket Armor for Stealth.

There's nothing else I could possibly need besides some FRW boots and any FCR rings/ammys (after Hammerdin of course). I would like to be a Holy Bolt machine gun. I'll push VIT, and make sure I have just enough STR for a Stealth Dusk Shroud. The Defiance should push my DefensiveRating up pretty good.

So, am I to use FOH or Blessed Hammer?

Can someone post one of those script windows with breakpoints? It might be useful, come actual game time, to have them quickly available to everyone. I would do it, but I don't seem to have that option... NVM I'm an idiot. These still valid?


Block Frames

5 4 3 2 1

W/O Holy Shield 0 13 32 86 600
W/ Holy Shield 0 86


FHR Frames

13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3

Spear or Stave 0 3 7 13 20 32 48 75 120 280
All other 0 7 15 27 48 86 200


FCR Frames

15 14 13 12 11 10 9

Pally 0 9 18 30 48 75 125

[prion]

the block and cast rate is correct, I don't know about hit recovery, it looks right.

Use FoH zinc. casting hammers would distract you from healing and sniping undead. Also FoH will benefit from HB synergy where hammers would require you to build additional skills.

[Dimmu Borgir]

How are we gonna set up crowded areas? Like Maggot Lair and Arcane Sanctuary. If someone gets caught in the entrance of a bad doorway unable to back out, it could mean certain doom...

I'll want to be in the very back, behind the healer, since if I'm in front I'll be blocking Holy Bolts.

[prion]

try to clear doorways so that people can get in. Sanctuary will be good for that in undead areas once we hit level 24. if you see that you're trapped, and your health is just going nowhere but down, s/e.

we'll split into two groups in certain areas. I'll work that out first thing sunday morning once we know for certain what the final team is.

[AgentMarth]

Let the Hammerdin lead in the maggot lair! The shine brilliantly there!

Really, the maggot is a PITA, it should be a little tricky in normal, but I say whoever has the most damage, followed by the healer leads. If worst come to worst, S/E.

In NM and possibly Hell, I'll hope for a tele staff to port to the next level's.

[prion]

THIS SUNDAY november 11, 10 am


Forum Name Account Name Build/Aura Mercenary
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1. prion prionHC decide later Defiance
2. Master Zap Sara[EF] conviction fire rogue
3. AgentMarth Shinmeiryuu Mage/Concentration Prayer
4. come back zinc Khlavkhalash Cleric/Cleansing ice mage
5. Piece Piece(EF) Angel/Salvation ice mage->holy freeze
6. yetidiah yetidiah Vindicator/Fanaticism fire rogue
7. SnowManPunk ?? ?? prayer
8. Dimmu Borgir dimmuborgir666 Ranger/Holy Fire BA->might

Reserve/uncommitted
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9. xxxfunbobxxx funbob66 undecided
10. STINGER
11.
12.
13.
14.

@SnowManPunk: pick your build before the end of the night Thursday or risk getting bumped!

@everyone: i've assigned mercs, post if you disagree.

[JayhawkFan]

hello,

this looks like a lot of fun. if a spot on the reserve team is open i would like to be added if its not too much trouble.

[Disque]

I'm down, I guess let me know if there is a spot.

Go with the defense aura or the resists one don't know the names..whatever needed

[prion]

hi guys post your acount name and the build you want to do and I'll add you to the reserve list

[Disque]

Logit, I'd just pick based on all the others, so we can have a strong team.

[yetidiah]

do we need two fire rogues? I think a lightning mage thrown in would have some decent effects

[prion]

Logit, I'd just pick based on all the others, so we can have a strong team.

we have to start somewhere as no one else on the reserve list has a build yet.

@yetidiah: i'm a little concerned that with his charged bolts crawling around, it'll be harder to see whats going on. Also I thought maybe the damage of the fire rogues would scale better as we advance.

[Dimmu Borgir]

What do you mean by Blessed Aim --> Might merc? Is it I can use either one, or I'll stick with BA and move on to Might, or what?

I'm good with whatever merc, I'm just a little confused. :P

[prion]

you start with blessed aim and then get might when we reach a2 nm :)

[come back zinc]

Who's going to be using Blessed Aim as of A2 NM?

[AgentMarth]

One thing I wanna say, no love for the Barb Merc's?

With Conc, Fana, Might, Def, etc, they will put out ALOT more damage then a Rogue, and with a bit of leech, will be quite the tanks. Rouges are to random, and don't seem to match up damage wise untwinked. *Imagines one with a Lawbringer for Decrp*

Which reminds me, we should keep an eye out for a Life Tap wand. Maybe someone (healer?) can be in charge of tapping the monsters so even with 0 LL, will can be ok.

[Master Zap]

I think Marth is on to something.. With the bow mercs they have tiny phy and minor elemental damage. The primary form of damage on a fire merc is the fire damage and this is boosted soley by the conviction aura.
The Act 2 or act 5 merc does more physical damage, and this gets boosted by Fanat, Conc, Might = more net damage in the long run plus a extra tank. With a frost zealot among us everything in range will be slowed 50% or more. By the time the enemy gets to us, it'll be half dead from the Holyshock, holyfire,holyfreeze auras that are pulsing and then again boosted 150% by conv

I think it would be wise to lean towards the physical death dealers. With the elemental zealers it may be wise to max Sacrifice as with the auras going on you'll have a full on physical damage plus the elemental, which in my book should rock!

Looking forward to this sunday :girly:
hopefully we dont lag and half the party dies during the spike (like one of the cta's I did, doh on them!)

[AgentMarth]

Barb's really will be the better choice, or the Act 2 Merc's (More Prayer for regen, since not sure how the H freezes could conflict). We will be going through with like a bulldozer effect, and there shouldn't be anything left behind us to sneak up on us. Even then, I wouldn't count on a weak Rogue to make a stand.

I agree with the max Sacrifice for more physical. IM will be a problem regardless, which is why I expect to take the lead in places like Chaos.

Speaking of lead, I mentioned it before, who is going to lead the pack? I'd be up to it, I know just about all the map patterns so I would be leading us in the right way (majority of the time). The only problem is i'll hardly be a tank.....

Oh and in case of a spike, I WILL s/e. I wont have the capability to survive the catch back up. Thats the only thing I will miss, is BO.

[come back zinc]

I can Life Tap, buy I may need more than one wand. (How many charges are there, usually?)

I like the idea of the Barbs as well. Fewer deaths, better tanks, and they'll get the elemental damage from our auras anyway. Good call. I'd still like to have some idiot ranged merc to take the hits for me, though.

One other thing. If anyone is in need of healing at Duriel, post text over your head so I can find you. It'll be hard to tell all the blue paladins apart. This might be a good idea in any situation. I'll focus the bolts on our tank and whichever mercs seem to be taking the most hits, but if you're in trouble, just lemme know. Unfortunately I can't see all the merc's healths, so the same goes for helping your merc, just put an M over your head and if I know which one he is I'll help him out. Hopefully this can save us time and money.

Also, to reiterate my previous question... No Blessed Aim after NM A2? Will it be unneccesary at that point? I was hoping to crack a few guys with my stave/polearm, Insight has the AR bonus, but with 0 +dex it's not looking good.

Marth, I'll gladly play Sancho to your Quixote. I can just follow you around pelting you with the love machine gun. That or I'll just make sure I prioritize you when healing.

[prion]

k i'll add a barb merc in, yes we do want to look for a life tap AND daggers--carry ID tomes so we can check daggers as they drop. I think they'll start showing up in a5 norm so check malah occasionaly once we get there.

we shouldn't need BA after nm a2, the conviction should take care of that, but i'm starting to think maybe we want to keep one for the times we split up.

Marth will lead, but in spaces where we have to enter a doorway or whatever, the smiter will run in first followed by the freezealot, in open spaces I want yetidiah flanking Marth.

[come back zinc]

Barb's really will be the better choice, or the Act 2 Merc's (More Prayer for regen, since not sure how the H freezes could conflict). We will be going through with like a bulldozer effect, and there shouldn't be anything left behind us to sneak up on us. Even then, I wouldn't count on a weak Rogue to make a stand.

Does prayer somehow stack with multiple mercs, or do you mean more prayer so that the party can split?

The higher level HF will always be active, no?

[AgentMarth]

Prayer works like the pulse from the Holy auras, just instead of damaging, it heals. It's not like Might were the highest takes effect. So say we hypothetically had 8 prayer Merc's with Insight's at ~lvl80ish, each pulse would heal ~50 x 8. Thats 400 life every 2 seconds or so, gg. Basically the more regen then better. It also is good if we get a bit to far away from you.

About H Freeze, i was thinking the slow would override each other. Like a frost Zealots 50%, being overriding by a Merc's 25% or something. Not sure how that works tbh.

Ok, sounds like i'll be taking the lead. The idea of !M or !H is actually quite the good one. Just so long as we don't die from typing rather than bailing out.

Life tap wands are usually ~100 charges, from level 1 to 5 from my experience.

IMO, we don't want no girly Rogue on our crusade, nor outlandish buff Barb's, so I vote for all act 2, since they share the Paladin's auras. My choice would be:

Prayer x3
Might
H Freeze
Def
BA
Thorns

Basically one of each. A BA Merc is nice for those times Conviction isn't glowing under a monster's feet. Conviction doesn't have that big of a range afterall.

*still wants to try the 8 Prayer/Insight Merc thing one day*

[prion]

k everyone vote

all a2 or include others?

[come back zinc]

Thanks for the prayer info. I never really played with enough people to realize that it stacked.

All A2!!!

I don't want to see the same aura underfoot twice in the same minute!

The !H would only be for those times when everyone is HFed, otherwise I should be fine telling who is who. I'm more interested in Merc healing; suicidal acts of contrition (we are taking heathen desert mercs on our crusade) aren't necessarily appreciated, and I'd like to prevent losing any auras mid-fight.

[Hp_Sauce]

Hehe, I wish I could be a fly on the wall for when you guys are fighting OK's

1 hammeradin and 8 mercs up front with 7 other pally's hiding in the back.

IM goes off... 8 merc's go splat... 8 pally's swear.... 8 TP's open... and the friendly local merc reviver makes a profit!!!

-hps

[AgentMarth]

Hehe, I wish I could be a fly on the wall for when you guys are fighting OK's

1 hammeradin and 8 mercs up front with 7 other pally's hiding in the back.

IM goes off... 8 merc's go splat... 8 pally's swear.... 8 TP's open... and the friendly local merc reviver makes a profit!!!

-hps

OMG that made me laugh so damn hard because its so damn true.....

Well, at least Holy Bolt can help kill, and I suppose the Holy Freeze/Fire/Shock Paladins can take off there weapons. Somebody just better be running Sanc for the knockback. In fact all who can for the more knockback effect.

God that was funny, because its so gonna happen.....

[come back zinc]

Hehe, I wish I could be a fly on the wall for when you guys are fighting OK's

1 hammeradin and 8 mercs up front with 7 other pally's hiding in the back.

IM goes off... 8 merc's go splat... 8 pally's swear.... 8 TP's open... and the friendly local merc reviver makes a profit!!!

-hps

Oblivion Knights are gonna get a good double shot of FOH before they even get near us!!! :laugh:

...they are undead, right? :scratch:

Prion, you still rather I max FOH instead of Sanctuary?

[prion]

i just don't see any purpose to maxing sanctuary, the damage is crap, it just seems like 20 points wasted to me.

OK's is the exact reason I suggested we get a couple of rogues and a couple of mages. freeze/shock pallies hit W and break out the throwing knives (fire guys is already using a bow) and only a few people will be standing around doing nothing with only 4 or five dead mercs.

So i guess the question for the vote is utility vs. theme.

[come back zinc]

theme, theme, theme!

FOH it is!

[Norrit]

Is there room for one more? I haven't read the whole thread (it's 10 pages long!) but I'm available if there's still room and I can play anything that's left to play.

[prion]

i can put you on the reserve list, that makes five i beleive, which is a solid team by itself if everyone shows. post your account and build you want to play. I suggest everyone interested to read the entire thread.

[Dimmu Borgir]

Hey, I don't think I'll be able to commit to this playthrough, some real life stuff came up and I won't be free on the weekend. :(

Hope its not too late to withdraw, I don't want to leave myself on the list and then not show up in-game.

[prion]

sorry you can't make it, I'll take you off the list.

That leaves the holy fire aura available, and also gives us an opening for a ranger.

Ill post the next update at the top of page 11

so Bob you coming?

[oakienko]

I see you guys don't have a convertadin..... :laugh:

[prion]

we've already covered that..

[prion]

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Forum Name Account Name Build/Aura Mercenary
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1. prion prionHC decide later might
2. Master Zap Sara[EF] conviction fire rogue->barb
3. AgentMarth Shinmeiryuu Mage/Concentration Prayer
4. come back zinc Khlavkhalash Cleric/Cleansing ice mage
5. Piece Piece(EF) Angel/Salvation holy freeze
6. yetidiah yetidiah Vindicator/Fanaticism defiance
7. SnowManPunk ?? ?? prayer
8. xxxfunbobxxx funbob66 undecided Blessed Aim

Reserve/uncommitted
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9.
10. STINGER
11. JayHawkFan
12. Disque Logit
13. Norrit
14.

[Starrider]

I'm free all Sunday and would love to accompany you guys on this adventure. Put me down for reserve and if there's a no-show or something, I'll fill in the hole. :smiley:

Edit: Almost forgot my account. *Starrider

[come back zinc]

Would snowman punk's replacement have to use holy fire?

Also, Bob, if you'd like to be the healer I'll take on whatever position needs to be filled. Lemme know. I don't mind being the fop with the flaming aura and bow.

[prion]

there's 3 undecided slots, and each of the elemental auras is available.

[studmuffinkelv]

This sounds pretty cool. Will one of you be able to record some gameplay video of this?

[AgentMarth]

As cool as that would be, I don't think any of us has a hard drive big enough to record 12 hours of gameplay.....

I'm sure we will get plenty of screen shots though.

One thing that has been on my mind, if we want to reach Hell Baal, I think we will need to go farther than 12 hours. In the CTA run I did, I think we reached him in ~11, been a while so i'm a bit iffy on it. The thing is, that was with me porting just about all of hell, and skipping the hard parts. Also, porting Baals for the faster leveling.

We will be walking/plowing through it all, so hopefully the exp will keep up and we wont need to Baal, but I don't think we will reach Hell Baal in under 12 hours.

Either way i'll play till Baal or deeds!

[yetidiah]

if someone wants the smiter/fanat build let me know, I would play a holy shock zealer if someone takes smite/fanat because I have played far more ele zealots then smiters

[STINGER]

99% chance i cant do this............count me out.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

zinc if u watn fire ill take healer

[prion]

well figure it out you guys

[prion]

THIS SUNDAY november 11, 10 am
be there or be :sad2: and don't forget your A-game

Forum Name Account Name Build/Aura Mercenary
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1. prion prionHC decide later prayer->might
2. Master Zap Sara[EF] conviction fire rogue->barb
3. AgentMarth Shinmeiryuu Mage/Concentration Prayer
4. come back zinc Khlavkhalash Cleric/Cleansing? ice mage
5. Piece Piece(EF) Angel/Salvation holy freeze
6. yetidiah yetidiah Vindicator/Fanaticism? defiance
7. SnowManPunk ?? ?? prayer
8. xxxfunbobxxx funbob66 undecided Blessed Aim

Reserve/uncommitted
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9. Starrider starrider
10.
11. JayHawkFan
12. Disque Logit
13. Norrit
14.


k here's how it works.

Everyone, including reserves, show up at 9:45 am in op xbananax.

we're pretending the ladder resets at ten, so we start almost right then, full game or not. If you don't show up on time, a reserve can take your spot

know your build.

[Piece]

I triple checked. I am DEFINITELY there. Very pumped for this. I love my build.

Little worried I'll oversleep, possible all-nighter before....idk yet.

[come back zinc]

Give bob the medic job, I'll take the fire Ranger with Holy Fire aura and whatsoever merc you see fit to appoint me.

[AgentMarth]

Slight change for me, but nothing major

Account will be:

Shinmeiryu
not
Shinmeiryuu

I'm going to have to delete my 44 Conviction Zealot to open up a space seeing as how I don't want to make another account.

[Piece]

Acct change here as well. I found my old clan from 1.09 and am leaving clan EF. Acct will be Piece(HS).

[studmuffinkelv]

As cool as that would be, I don't think any of us has a hard drive big enough to record 12 hours of gameplay.....

I'm sure we will get plenty of screen shots though.


It would be silly to record 12 hrs of D2 gameplay :tongue:

But seriously, it would be epic to watch 5 minutes of a hell chaos run or a baal run.

[AgentMarth]

It would be silly to record 12 hrs of D2 gameplay :tongue:

But seriously, it would be epic to watch 5 minutes of a hell chaos run or a baal run.


Hmm, after laughing at Hp_sauce's post about it, that would be awesome to record our Chaos runs! Or even other key moments, like the fight with Baal, or Ancients.

I hear Fraps is pretty good, you also see it alot in the D2 dueling videos, anyone got any opinions on it? I could try and download it, but not sure if it would make me lag at all, and I wouldn't want to seeing as how I am the one who will be on the front lines in Chaos. Also, not sure how long the free version last or lets you record, something tells me the Chaos runs will take a wee bit more than 5 mins.

If anyone else wants to try it that would be awesome.

One other quick thing, I may use a mule account (ShinmeiryuMule) to do this, since I now have an open spot to deleting the wrong mule (farewell all my res charms.....) that way I could even have a Hell bound mule if needed, and not have to worry about deleting a char Also, it will be easy because I can add everyone to that f list and not have to worry about moving people around or whatnot. Either way, ill be there at 6:45 and make it known.

[prion]

YETIDIAH i'll be the smiter if you don't want it.

[Starrider]

If I end up getting to play, I'd be happy to record whatever you want with Fraps.

[come back zinc]

Has snownman responded? Starrider seems pretty keen and he has been posting regularly. It's game time in 19-1/2 hours, we should probably finalize everything we can so as not to waste time tomorrow.

I bought a box of Pogos, a bag of cookies, a couple of cartons of cheap juice (and a little vodka to mix, now that I don't have healer 'responsibilities') and my GF is making chicken soup for whenever dinner is. I'm good to go.

I won't be around tonight, but I'll check any updates tomorrow morning around 9, so if anything changes: lemme know. Also, I'll be playing off my *comebackzinc account.

See you all there!

[prion]

Forum Name Account Name Build/Aura Mercenary
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1. prion prionHC smiter/fanaticism prayer->might
2. Master Zap Sara[EF] conviction fire rogue->barb
3. AgentMarth Shinmeiryu Mage/Concentration Prayer
4. come back zinc comebackzinc fire ranger ice mage
5. Piece Piece(HS) Angel/Salvation holy freeze
6. yetidiah yetidiah shock zealot defiance
7. (SnowManPunk or Starrider) frost zealot prayer
8. xxxfunbobxxx funbob66 Cleric/Cleansing Blessed Aim

[AgentMarth]

(and a little vodka to mix, now that I don't have healer 'responsibilities')

Yes, last thing we needed was the healer drunk trying to heal the one of the monsters rather than us, who just to boot, isn't undead even.



Everyone should confirm tonight, and then again in the morning, you never know. If you don't confirm, you should get bumped to the reserves IMO.

[prion]

agree. confirm by 10 pm plz. also any reserves confirm their availability if still interested.

for normal:
maggot lair team: prion, zinc, yetidiah
the rest will go on to claw viper temple.

we skip blood raven, countess, and nihlathak quests. except i want to do nihlathak in normal so we can personalize our stuff for souvenirs. shouldn't take long, i know a trick to find the stairs

The trick to doing this quickly will be to keep moving. we'll go to town one at a time unless we need to swap our finds.

If you need to go afk for any reason, let us know, then go back to town. we can't be wasting time protecting people outside of town. I've unplugged my phone so i won't be disturbed.

I call the following gear:
highest damage sheild
highest defense armor
PDR rings
ISO scimmy/sabre/long sword and except/elite variants

everyone:hoard ALLL gems and runes, we will use them. as previously stated, we will mule off valuable items before each act boss.

[Starrider]

Confirmed.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

confirm ofc!

[prion]

no one else confirmed lol!
meet in channel op xbananax at 9:45 am eastern standard time, 6:45 pacific
don't forget your coffee. you can't destroy the minions of hell without a good caffeine buzz.

everyone try to pick your name ahead of time as well

unplug your phones.

[come back zinc]

Confirm.
12

[Piece]

confirming my attendance.

[yetidiah]

only a lil late :P
confirminationated

[Starrider]

I was just informed that I'll be needed tomorrow at my grandfather's house. So I won't be able to make it. Hope you guys have a good time. :smiley:

[Piece]

lol i was shooting a 50th bday party. it went til 11. not really my fault.

[yetidiah]

Median was consuming me, didn't even check the forums til after 11

[Piece]

Its 3 AM and I finally am able to sleep (personal problems kept me from it before) and now it's so late if I fall asleep I won't make the deadline. What is that.

We're supposed to meet at 9:45 in op xbananax, however I might be a little late for that. I planned on showing very shortly before 10.

[Piece]

its 9:10. I gotta run ot the store, be back in like 30 min please don't leave without me!

Char is chillin in channel.

[AgentMarth]

Game time!

[Piece]

Ftj Sucks.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

im currently using my own cdkey at the momment........................................... ......

[Piece]

I just got a temp ban, please don't get Diablo without me.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

lawls fire enchanted cold enchanted ftl good luck my friends

[come back zinc]

Thanks to everyone who came along. We had many unfortunate deaths, the bulk of those very early in. Thanks to BounceBounce for joining late as a Frost Zealot (Deeds A2 Norm). Yetidah met his end somewhere towards the end of Normal (remind me). Bob died in a FECE explosion somewhere in NM A1, while Piece died beside a fleeing Zinc in some Stony Field mayhem, also NM. After recovering the Malus, AgentMarth, our only AoE, decided that continuing would be a slow suicide and found more constructive things to do. His excellent map knowledge was greatly missed.

The three remaining characters (a Cleric (zinc), a Smiter (prion), and a FoH mage (zap)) deliberated for some time before deciding to continue (with the help of a Sol rune dropped by a friendly bear). Insight in hand, Zinc (at the advice of his companions) put points in vengeance and holy shock creating a somewhat functional electrified healer. The trio slowly pushed their way through the end of A1, A2, and A3, before calling it a night in A4.

Surviving Builds:

Zap - ThatPallyGroup - FOH w/ conviction - Fire Rogue
Prion - Prion - Smiter w/ Fanatacism - Defiance Merc
Zinc - PublicMcPolicy - Healer & Avenger w/ Meditation & Holy Shock - HF Merc

The saga will continue.

[STINGER]

DOH........looks like a ruff run. Just noticed you went all Pallys. 8 players and all Pallys is a ballsy go and it looks like no Hammerdin. Looks like the (3) left are still fairly solid with good play, at least you arent all melee.

[come back zinc]

Our star Hammerdin (Marth) is still alive somewhere... He got us through the first half of the game, but didn't want to play the game in slo-mo (I don't blame him). Unfortunately our next hurdle, the CS and Diablo, might be a little too high for our rag-tag team of wannabe heroes.

[yetidiah]

act 4 i got raped by 4-5 electric bat fiends as soon as I changed from the light res aura. I hate any enemy that can stack on itself like those, gloam, ghosts, etc.

[prion]

thanks to everyone who joined, was great while it lasted.

gonna post some screnies in a bit, but forgot about those so i didn't get much.

[prion]

ok idn't get edit in time, and these are the only photos i got:
the weapon i'm using:
http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/lord_prion/?action=view&current=Screenshot027.jpg

Bob's death:
http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/lord_prion/?action=view&current=Screenshot025.jpg

[come back zinc]

Im around for the encore, but there's nobody else in channel. I'll be Baalin with Bob on khlavkhalash if anyone shows.

[prion]

Hey forum I wanted to bring some closure to this project and thread.

First of all, Zinc, Sara and myself finished act 3 nm on that sunday around 1 am i think so yeah it took awhile. We then went on to act 4 the next day and after a really rough start establishing a beachhead in act 4 we were able to clean it up, but it took something like 2.5 hours.

here's the armor I finished 'making' just before taking on CS. it is the result of a good find in norm or early nm+ norm socket+pruby+upgrade: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/lord_prion/Screenshot046.jpg

we didn't meet up again for a few days and eventually Master Zap went on to soloing Hell.

I guess what I've learned from this experince is that the whole point of the project being overlapping auras, You absolutely have to stay together to make it work. The only times we lost anyone are when the group split in half, or someone went off on their own, or someone got left behind. And it bothers me that I allowed that to happen because it's against the Code to leave people behind.

Now as I said in the first post i'm not doing this again so therefore I don't claim any ownership of "the Crusade" name or the phrase "JOIN the CRUSADE," I only ask that it be used for nothing other than an all-paladin team. If you want to use it for an all paladin day long rush/grush party that's cool too, and I'm in :D

I have to give props to Socialism, the rockstar himself, for arranging his CTAs and showing everyone the viability of this type of game and proving that untwinked can be fun. And thanks again to everyone who joined.