GoldFind Barb......

[Luichenwai]

Wow, I just read a TON of threads in regards to making a Gold Find Barb.

I started one for Hell Trav

Gear:
Crown of Thieves-Lem
Wealth
Chanices
2x Dwarfstar
Infernostride
MF Ammy
2x Alibaba- LemLem
Goldwrap
Chance Gloves
High resist Anni
High resist Torch

ACt 2 Defiance Merc
Cron of Thieves-Lem
Eth Bonehew or Ebotdz War Pike
Eth Fortitude

Skills:
20 Shout
20 BO
20 WarCry
15 Find Item
1pt Battle Command
1pt Leap
5 pts Natural resistance


What do you guys think about this setup?

[Luichenwai]

I had a question about the MERC GEAR..

Would ETh Bonehew be strong enough for HELL TRAV? if so what should I socket it with?(2x amn?)

[chien]

Hi,

You can check out my thread here (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=604590) and here (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=602629). I've tried couple combinations. I personally like CoT+Treachery+Eth upped Hone Sundan (1 Shael) the most. Once the fade is triggered, your merc just won't die.

BTw, I would suggest you have might merc to increase his damage if you want your merc to kill. Also, other the CoT to you, another popular option is IK helm socket with 2 Lems.

However, of course, if you have eth BoTD/eth fort, you won't have any problem at all, I think.

Eth Bonehew is ok but I like to have some CB. I think Infinity in eth elite polearm is another good option if you have the hrs to burn :)

Chien

[chien]

BTW, just to remind you that Wcry won't work on unique councils (or very hard to stun, someone please verify). I personally use Leap only (lvl20 after hard points and plus skills). Occasionally, I battlecry some to lower monster's def for my merc.

Chien

[Luichenwai]

Oh treachery heh? I may try that b/c it's cheaper than eth fort by a TON! hehe

I was going to go with Eth Bone hew with maybe 2x amn for life leech. or EBotd War pike for FAST killing

[chien]

The only tricky part for treachery is that you need the fade to be triggered. Otherwise, your merc will not have enough resist to cover cold/light/poison damage in hell. If you plan to run hell councils, I think fire and light resistance are most important (you should be good with fire since you have CoT). Once the fade is triggered, everything is maxed anyway.

Chien

[phatphoeater]

BTW, just to remind you that Wcry won't work on unique councils (or very hard to stun, someone please verify).

Chien

i dont think this is correct. i hold the right mouse button down and they get stunned. it probably is a shorter duration but they get stunned.

[chien]

Here is my search (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=586128&highlight=WarCry). Yes, you will have 10% chance to stun champions/uniques. I still like the "leap" with much larger range with enough points there since you don't have to close to the monsters if they are light enhanced :P

Chien

[zerth]

Eth bonehew works pretty well, but consider 65 IAS bp, which can be reached with a Shael on the Bonehew and a 15 IAS jewel on helm. It really made a difference in my case (check chien's thread). Defiance merc works well, especially with a 4K def Stone (he reaches ~40K defense with shout), but might merc is simply faster.

It is very fortunate that the GF equipment has nice fire resist and fire absorb, making this barb highly effective in the best GF spot in the game :). Consider IK helm instead of CoT for your babrb, though. It comes with 2 sockets, so you can get 100 GF with 2 Lems, additional MF (25-40 iirc, but even 40MF can be traded for pgems) and +2 warcries, which really helps.

Also, maxed War Cry isn't really necessary. Personally, I have about 30 spare skill points at clvl 85 which I will leave untouched for the time being, since I have absolutely no complaints on survivability and killing speed. Maxed BO, Shout, 1 BCry, BCommand, WC, Iron Skin, Natural Resistance, Increased Speed, Leap and prereqs (hope I don't forget anything). Also 2-3 points on Find Item to reach 50% chance with +skills. Suggestions on rest skill point allocation are welcome.

Lastly, to buff up war cries, buy 2 echoing spears (+6 warcries total) and put them on switch.

Also, I notice that dii.net lacks a good GF barb guide. Someone should sum up these 2-3 threads that emerged lately and write a good guide ;)

[The Cow King]

Personally I'd really make a ww version where you do the killing yourself. The merc AI is horrible at best and it makes the runs so much faster / interesting when you can kill as well.

[Luichenwai]

hey guys.. I want to change something..

Instead of letting the merc do the kill (takes too long and boring)
I want to kill myself

How does this sound?
Ebotd War Pike
Wealth
Crown of Thieves
Chance
Gold Wrap
2x Dwarf Star rings
80%gf Ammy

On switch 2x lem alibaba to hoard the corpse

Hows that ?

[phatphoeater]

you lose the gf on the dual ali babas on the first kill. double lem'd x 2 babas is ALOT of gf.

gf barbs were built with one purpose: gf (and maybe some mf). i didnt plan to play him like a typical character so wasnt it expecting to be fun. however, i do find collecting huge stacks of gold immensely enjoyable :).

[zerth]

Hmm... WW! It takes 45 skill points to max WW and sword mastery, which should be doable (or close to doable) considering the base GF barb skill allocation. Will upped Ali Baba's do any damage at all (they probably won't hit any speed bp)?. Has anyone tested this?
It surely is less boring when you kill something yourself!

[The Cow King]

You could also use 3x Shael 2x Lem'd Runemasters and get CBF +nice extra res to boot. Also take note that what you lose in gold find you gain back in killing speed.

Instead of goldwrap use a rare belt. They really are the best option for gf babas... you could get something like GF 80%, 24 FHR, 60 life, 25 str etc... or res if you find it lacking. One thing you WILL need is a little bit of mana leech, otherwise you will be downing pots but it's ok if you're ok with that. Dual BOTD zerkers would give sick life leech and stuff but it all comes down to how rich you are.

[phatphoeater]

the other issue with killing yourself and losing the ali babas is the loss of MF. i know some people could care less, but I enjoy finding the occasional unique drop. I get a rare ring/ammy every few runs as well. its all about trade offs: kill speed vs gf vs mf. I figure, why risk r/d with faster runs?

[chien]

I'll second what phatphoeater said. To whole point for GF barb is to get gold :) To kill the councils yourself, you will lost lots of gold/(and some MF if using ali baba). @ lvl80, dual lem'ed baba give you 700% GF and 160%MF. Good suggestion to use duel runemasters for kill. However, you still lost siginificant amount GF from the merc (CoT, Lem'ed weapon and wealth or lem'ed armor).

Believe me, the most time you spend will be picking up the gold and checking out the goodies :). With my humble merc equips (normal CoT,treachery armor and upped eth hone sundan), he kills councils at pretty acceptable speed to me (~2-3mins for Hell councils unless there is a physical immune unique. Then, I'll just skip him if I am not patient).

Only thing up to you is whether you feel it is boring to let your merc kill instead of you. For me, once you have acceptable killing speed from your merc, I don't feel too bad once I see lots of gold/magic/runes/gems all over the place :) I don't think it is much boring than running meph over and over again :P

Chien