List of spells that disappear when you town/hostile?

[d00m2k]

I've been running Baal with some friends, but I need to make sure that some builds cannot TPPK.

Is there a list of spells that disappear when you town? I.e. I know Hammers, Traps, Hydras, Firewall all do, but what about Bone Spirit? Bone Spear? Etc.

[Raith]

Bonespear doesn't.

[AgentMarth]

That seems a bit contradictory, they're friends, but your worried about them TPPKing you? Or are you worried about friends of friends?

Just wondering, and sadly, I cannot be of much help, since I never bother to check what spells disappear when I go to town. Also, i'm to paranoid to play with most people I haven't played with before or are vouched for by someone I respect alot. Or i'm like 70+ and they are very low.

[Barrynor]

lemmie see here.

sorcs are out, they can tppk with almost anything.
zons are out, guided arrows can tppk, and if they have a might merc with them with a beast weapon you're in for a world of hurt.
druids are out, unless they are melee shifters
necros are out, bone spells don't disappear
paladins are not out perse, but if someone is shoothing a widowmaker with fana, you're too late because he has already killed you

Basically, the only "safe" build to be around is a barbarian, as their only attack that might TPPK is "throw" and "double throw" and I have not yet heared from a throw/double-thrower. Then again, seeing that sorcs can tppk people with fire bolts and such, a thrower/double thrower with harpoons might also do the trick. And one could always use widowmaker... and a sin, because they cannot TPPK apart from widowmaker either.


So, what classes did you say your friends were playing? Assassins? Barbarians? Those are pretty safe to stand around. Notice I say "pretty" and not "totally".

[Klauspoppe]

lemmie see here.

sorcs are out, they can tppk with almost anything.
zons are out, guided arrows can tppk, and if they have a might merc with them with a beast weapon you're in for a world of hurt.
druids are out, unless they are melee shifters
necros are out, bone spells don't disappear
paladins are not out perse, but if someone is shoothing a widowmaker with fana, you're too late because he has already killed you

Basically, the only "safe" build to be around is a barbarian, as their only attack that might TPPK is "throw" and "double throw" and I have not yet heared from a throw/double-thrower. Then again, seeing that sorcs can tppk people with fire bolts and such, a thrower/double thrower with harpoons might also do the trick. And one could always use widowmaker... and a sin, because they cannot TPPK apart from widowmaker either.


So, what classes did you say your friends were playing? Assassins? Barbarians? Those are pretty safe to stand around. Notice I say "pretty" and not "totally".

Double throw barb can have over 40k dmg but max 3-4 hit and most players have 75% block and good dmg reduce so its not really problem in hell unless your weak sorc, necro or bowa. In nm baals in it can be very dangerous pk. Throwing spears can also been glitched with str bug so you dont even see barb throwing them with autoaim on you.

[Hp_Sauce]

Double throw barb can have over 40k dmg but max 3-4 hit and most players have 75% block and good dmg reduce so its not really problem in hell unless your weak sorc, necro or bowa. In nm baals in it can be very dangerous pk. Throwing spears can also been glitched with str bug so you dont even see barb throwing them with autoaim on you.

If you're getting that 40k damage from the LCS it's severely wrong. I can dig up the exact mess if you really want, but it's a lot smaller then what the LCS says for throw barbs.

and a sin, because they cannot TPPK apart from widowmaker either.

What about Fireblast? I was under the impression that it stayed.

-hps

[Master Zap]

its 1/3 iirc :) save you the trouble of finding it. Not to mention even that 40K figure seems to high. I have a Throw/frenzy barb and the lsc varies around 10-15K or after the display bug and the pvp penalty that's around 1K ish

these threads come up often. What it really boils down to is any class can tppk if they want to. Moral is be careful of who you party , never stand in flight paths of projectiles. I'd have to say the safest class is a shifter druid. They cannon throw or cast shifted.

[NightShade]

Shockweb can tppk. Me and billy tested this a while ago with him manually tping and hostiling.

[Barrynor]

Even with 700 max dam weapons, all in dex, 300% ED armor, maxed throwing mastery and a might merc I think 40K is pushing the limits of imagination a bit... 40K is Eth Obidience Charger damage, with DS.


Ah, the good old days of 1.09, with the mastery bug (100% crit), and the throwing bug(PvP penalty on throwing was only 50%), resulting in WYSIWYG damage for thrower barbies. I miss those days :D

[STINGER]

I had a good deal of fun PPKin in Classic on a thrower.

[Klauspoppe]

Even with 700 max dam weapons, all in dex, 300% ED armor, maxed throwing mastery and a might merc I think 40K is pushing the limits of imagination a bit... 40K is Eth Obidience Charger damage, with DS.


Ah, the good old days of 1.09, with the mastery bug (100% crit), and the throwing bug(PvP penalty on throwing was only 50%), resulting in WYSIWYG damage for thrower barbies. I miss those days :D

i had 85 thrower(all stats in dex) with 2 perf eth ghost glaives, forti, 120/45 helm, inventory full of 10+ max grands and 3+ max smalls, might merc with lvl 20 conc pride, own enchant from obedience. Dmg was around 35k. So with sorc enchant or pala auras i think 40k not impossible

[NightShade]

Everyone forgot about throwzons back then....I took ears left right and center with mine.

[Regicide]

Don't forget Blade Fury. An assassin that specializes in Blade Fury that is using a high damage weapon (450 ed ethereal rare War Pike) or a BotD War Pike/Thunder Maul can push 18k Blade Fury. Thats with perfect gear and a Pride/Might Mercenary. She can do over 24k if a Hammerdin is in the room. That's a lot of damage =( Plus you only need to put 1 point into Blade Fury. They can have trap claws on switch to pretend to be a trapsin, then bam!

[Dyn]

Whats the max dmg you can have these days with a Thowing barb? As I like playing barbs and Amazons soo it would be the best for both worlds

For Pvm ofcourse